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Winston Smith

Winston Smith

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Can we discuss him yet? Will he ever develop pocket presence? Will he ever stop checking down when he should press? Or are stats more important than points? BR.net wants to know!
 
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Winston Smith said:
Can we discuss him yet? Will he ever develop pocket presence. Will he ever stop checking down when he should press? Or are stats more important than points? BR.net wants to know!
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His bitch ass has started...and locked...a fuckton of threads. A few still try to defend him but the vast majority here hate the bitch.
 
007 said:
Meh it is what it is at this point.

I'm not gonna stress out too much over it anymore because I fully assume we have 2-3 more seasons with this combo.
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If this goes the way I think it will...this is my last season as a Raider fan. I just can't take anymore of the ineptitude.
 
Raidervinny said:
If this goes the way I think it will...this is my last season as a Raider fan. I just can't take anymore of the ineptitude.
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I feel ya, I just disconnect from it as much as I can haha.

I mean even when we are playing OK I find our team boring as hell to watch. Gruden's O is predictable, conservative, and never exciting.
 
Darkenblot said:
Carr is what he is at this point.

I don't think Gruden uses what positive traits he has well. But Carr has some bad habits like most mid-tier QBs and a "QB Guru" should be able to scheme around them.
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You are a good poster and a good addition to this place.

We may disagree but I respect your take.

This thread is likely to get ugly, so don't take it personally hahaha.
 
Listened to the post game.

Yep, I’m out on Gruden. There’s coach speak and then there’s clearly not getting it. Everything is great, everyone played great, it’s all because of the injuries for the 3rd year in a row.
 
007 said:
You are a good poster and a good addition to this place.

We may disagree but I respect your take.

This thread is likely to get ugly, so don't take it personally hahaha.
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I don't take it personally. Someone doesn't like one of my favorite players? Oh well, the sun will come up tomorrow. It is just rooting for paid mercenaries. People can disagree without being jerks. I don't care if someone dislikes Carr.

I do think at this point, the lines in the sand have been drawn. It really doesn't matter if we screwed Carr or Carr screwed himself. I think there is plenty of blame on both sides. If I learned anything from this team, it is that players are sinned against more than sinners.

And I fully understand why people want to move on.
 
gst8 said:
Listened to the post game.

Yep, I’m out on Gruden. There’s coach speak and then there’s clearly not getting it. Everything is great, everyone played great, it’s all because of the injuries for the 3rd year in a row.
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He showed his time has passed. Today’s league you have to be more aggressive, when we kicked those two field goals instead of going for it on 4th and short- I knew we would be running uphill all game.
 
phxraida15 said:
He showed his time has passed. Today’s league you have to be more aggressive, when we kicked those two field goals instead of going for it on 4th and short- I knew we would be running uphill all game.
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I mean watch Baltimore win with a QB who can't throw.

Analytics based play calls and formations, targeting weak spots on defenses, going for it if the numbers work. Being aggressive deep but also pounding the rock. Leaning on experts to design plays and systems to succeed.

Harbaugh changed for the better.

Our team sucks to watch and is rarely ever exciting and fun.
 
Losing two fumbles (and, really, it should have been three fumbles lost) means everyone didn’t play great. There were bright spots... but let’s not pretend we didn’t fuck ourselves with mistakes.
 
Raidervinny said:
Yep. Gannon, Lamonica and Stabler were winners. Carr is the losingest (it's now a word) in Raiders history. That's what he'll be remembered as.
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Very true but hard to compare eras. Especially when those teams were littered with HOF talent.

Those teams in Vegas would have been fun to read about lmao. I can only imagine what they would be doing at night back then.
 
007 said:
I mean watch Baltimore win with a QB who can't throw.

Analytics based play calls and formations, targeting weak spots on defenses, going for it if the numbers work. Being aggressive deep but also pounding the rock. Leaning on experts to design plays and systems to succeed.

Harbaugh changed for the better.

Our team sucks to watch and is rarely ever exciting and fun.
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I wish his (Harbaugh) douche bag brother would do that at UM. Supposedly he’s rolling with a physical specimen (Joe Milton) at QB instead of the noodle armed McCafrey. So maybe he’s getting it.

When you get a chance, check out Milton when UM plays. 6’3” /6’4”, mobile, built like a tank. Cannon arm. Ball just explodes off his hand.

I have NO IDEA if he is, or will be good. But man he’s got some exciting talent.
 
TheNextStep said:
Losing two fumbles (and, really, it should have been three fumbles lost) means everyone didn’t play great. There were bright spots... but let’s not pretend we didn’t fuck ourselves with mistakes.
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