2017 Off Season Thread

DonkeyKilla said:
I'm starting to see your point here but in the end I don't think it fits Reggie's philosophy. He'd rather have a couple guys in Latham and Hester developing than a better player right now that is on the decline.
Click to expand...

Which is why he and Del Rio are such a bad fit IMO. Reggie wants to build and replace through the draft while JDR, like a lot of coaches, wants guys that already know how to be a pro.
 
If any player on the Raiders roster is afraid of flying, they might want to think about asking for a trade because Oakland is going to be spending more time in the air in 2017 than any other NFL team. The Raiders will be traveling a total of 32,876 miles this season, which is more than the Steelers, Bengals, Packers and Lions will travel combined in 2017 (30,712 miles).

The Raiders' plane, which is chartered by Hawaiian Airlines, is going to get a serious workout this year.
 
godeep811 said:
If any player on the Raiders roster is afraid of flying, they might want to think about asking for a trade because Oakland is going to be spending more time in the air in 2017 than any other NFL team. The Raiders will be traveling a total of 32,876 miles this season, which is more than the Steelers, Bengals, Packers and Lions will travel combined in 2017 (30,712 miles).

The Raiders' plane, which is chartered by Hawaiian Airlines, is going to get a serious workout this year.
Click to expand...


View attachment 6296
 
godeep811 said:
If any player on the Raiders roster is afraid of flying, they might want to think about asking for a trade because Oakland is going to be spending more time in the air in 2017 than any other NFL team. The Raiders will be traveling a total of 32,876 miles this season, which is more than the Steelers, Bengals, Packers and Lions will travel combined in 2017 (30,712 miles).

The Raiders' plane, which is chartered by Hawaiian Airlines, is going to get a serious workout this year.
Click to expand...

Just tell the players not to get too friendly with the 6'2" stewardess with the size 13 shoes. They might be in for a rude surprise.
 
gst8 said:
Which is why he and Del Rio are such a bad fit IMO. Reggie wants to build and replace through the draft while JDR, like a lot of coaches, wants guys that already know how to be a pro.
Click to expand...
I don't get this... So your're saying they are a bad fit because the coach like just about any coach would prefer guys that know how to be pro's.... Yet our GM, who has surrounded the team with vets across all levels except ILB isn't a fit for our coach... I guess you could say also say no vet depth along the interior DL this year but, the previous years we've had a vet to lean on along the DL too.
 
godeep811 said:
If any player on the Raiders roster is afraid of flying, they might want to think about asking for a trade because Oakland is going to be spending more time in the air in 2017 than any other NFL team. The Raiders will be traveling a total of 32,876 miles this season, which is more than the Steelers, Bengals, Packers and Lions will travel combined in 2017 (30,712 miles).

The Raiders' plane, which is chartered by Hawaiian Airlines, is going to get a serious workout this year.
Click to expand...
The Rams have more miles, I think Arizona has more as well.
 
alteredst8 said:
I don't get this... So your're saying they are a bad fit because the coach like just about any coach would prefer guys that know how to be pro's.... Yet our GM, who has surrounded the team with vets across all levels except ILB isn't a fit for our coach... I guess you could say also say no vet depth along the interior DL this year but, the previous years we've had a vet to lean on along the DL too.
Click to expand...

There has to be a general agreement in terms of how to approach building the team. Yes, Reggie's added vets to fill gaps or because they were a premier player but as a general rule he's chosen to let drafted players fill roles even when veteran upgrades have been on the market. JDR seems at odds with that. I think about the comments both made when Jihad was drafted. Reggie said he was going to play and JDR pointed out how raw he was. Both were right but I think it's a good example of their individual philosophies. Another example was their respective takes in the MLB situation. Right now it might serve as healthy discourse but we'll see if/when the heat gets turned up.
 
Last edited:
gst8 said:
There has to be a general agreement in terms of how to approach building the team. Yes, Reggie's added vets to fill gaps or because they were a premier player but as a general rule he's chosen to let drafted players fill roles even when veteran upgrades have been on the market. JDR seems at odds with that. I think about the comments both made were made when Jihad was drafted. Reggie said he was going to play and JDR pointed out how raw he was. Both were right but I think it's a good example of their individual philosophies. Another example was their respective takes in the MLB situation. Right now it might serve as healthy discourse but we'll see if/when the heat gets turned up.
Click to expand...


Red's one year "prove it deals" and "nickle and diming" on the defensive side of the ball have not exactly been a blue print for success. Coupled with some head scratching picks the defense has not improved one iota since he's been here.
 
Madturk said:
Red's one year "prove it deals" and "nickle and diming" on the defensive side of the ball have not exactly been a blue print for success. Coupled with some head scratching picks the defense has not improved one iota since he's been here.
Click to expand...

well it does have a reigning defensive MVP... but your point is taken.
 
gst8 said:
There has to be a general agreement in terms of how to approach building the team. Yes, Reggie's added vets to fill gaps or because they were a premier player but as a general rule he's chosen to let drafted players fill roles even when veteran upgrades have been on the market. JDR seems at odds with that. I think about the comments both made were made when Jihad was drafted. Reggie said he was going to play and JDR pointed out how raw he was. Both were right but I think it's a good example of their individual philosophies. Another example was their respective takes in the MLB situation. Right now it might serve as healthy discourse but we'll see if/when the heat gets turned up.
Click to expand...
Good examples. I'd imagine it's the same across the league unless you have a coach that's been around his team for an extended period of time. I don't think even Red thought that Ward would be required to play as much as he did. I do agree with Jack in that we have not solved the ILB position yet. It's rather frustrating.
 
gst8 said:
When you have the DPOY and still don't improve, it says a lot...
Click to expand...
I think it says injuries and one fat bastard showed up last year after a 6 month buffet binge. (Williams)
 
alteredst8 said:
Good examples. I'd imagine it's the same across the league unless you have a coach that's been around his team for an extended period of time. I don't think even Red thought that Ward would be required to play as much as he did. I do agree with Jack in that we have not solved the ILB position yet. It's rather frustrating.
Click to expand...

Yeah, but look at the HC/GM synergy in Seattle where they seem to embrace both philosophies to some degree of success. For the record, I side more with JDR on the issue regardless of my opinion on how he carries himself. Red has to get more competition for these position battles at the very least. Having to scheme around a 1 down MLB is crazy.
 
Sleet said:
Carr's a stud. He had noticeable game and personality deficiencies in college, and as a rookie. Not many QBs overcome such things and play at a high level in the NFL. He's developed his positive traits and minimized his deficiencies. The game has slowed down for him. He knows where he wants to go with the ball. He knows his progressions. He has an amazingly quick release, a strong arm and a seemingly still improving touch on the ball.
Click to expand...

Just watched the NFL live segment on this. Every person on the panel had Carr in the top 5. I'll take that.
 
Madturk said:
Red's one year "prove it deals" and "nickle and diming" on the defensive side of the ball have not exactly been a blue print for success. Coupled with some head scratching picks the defense has not improved one iota since he's been here.
Click to expand...
Not that I like the GM but the blue print is the Peyton Colts with a better O-line...
I'm fine with protecting Carr and skimping on the D...
What I don't like is all the remaining cap space... but if it's for Mack and a late FA cut... it makes cents
 
ESPN falling into the phagg column.. that whole network is fuckin ass

Heard they just pulled an Asian football announcer from Virginia because his name is Robert Lee... This is what you wanted America ya sensitive pussies.. ya got it now-
 
NIPS said:
ESPN falling into the phagg column.. that whole network is fuckin ass

Heard they just pulled an Asian football announcer from Virginia because his name is Robert Lee... This is what you wanted America ya sensitive pussies.. ya got it now-
Click to expand...

Monuments are for winners
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Status
This thread has been closed due to inactivity. You can create a new thread to discuss this topic.
Back
Top