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Training camp, Day 5

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Tuesday at 6:45 pm

News and notes, sights and sounds from the Raiders training camp practice Tuesday:

– Coincidence or not, Josh McCown had his worst practice of training camp on the same day the Raiders signed Daunte Culpepper.

McCown had passes intercepted by Nnamdi Asomugha while deep in his own territory (he underthrew Jerry Porter) and forced one into coverage that was stolen by B.J. Ward. There was also a near-pick by safety Hiram Eugene.

– Culpepper will be meet with the media following practice and Al Davis is also scheduled to talk with the press.

"He'll be a part of the competition to be the starting quarterback," Kiffin said. "We'll give him the opportunity and see if he can take it, and if he can't, he'll be a backup."

– Linebacker Kirk Morrison made a spectacular interception on a sideline flip from Andrew Walter to fullback Justin Griffith.

– He's a longshot, but probably no more than a longshot than Will Buchanon last year _ rookie free agent wide receiver Chris McFoy made a diving sideline grab and later broke slant reception for big yardage.

– Practice seemed to be down a notch in terms of player enthusiasm and intensity. Coach Lane Kiffin gathered his team near the end to get more out of the final 20 plays.

– It's a long way from behing ready to be part of a five-man chain and know line changes and blocking responsibilities, but tackle Mario Henderson is an impressive specimen during one-on-one drills with defensive linemen _ any defensive linemen.

(Keep in mind Derrick Burgess is still on PUP and can't provide the best test).

– Guard Cooper Carlisle, linebacker Jon Condo and fullback Oren O'Neil were all yanked from the field for errors by coaches, all returning a short time later.

– Maybe it's just a coincidence, but running back LaMont Jordan has not practiced because of a sore lower back since swinging from his heels during the Raiders' "Home Run Derby." Jordan launched one over a 300-foot fence.

– The Raiders are getting thin at running back. ReShard Lee went down with a knee injury after being buried on a sweep to the left. He was tended to on the field by the training staff. Dominic Rhodes missed practice with a foot injury.

– Adimchinobe Echemandu continues to be the most impressive practice runner. He seems a good fit for the one-cut style which suits a zone blocking scheme.

– Barry Sims was out with a sore abdominal muscle, with Paul McQuistan take reps as a first-team left tackle and Robert Gallery remaining at left guard.

– Cornerback Stanford Routt was out with an unspecified minor injury, although he appeared to moving very slowly along the sidelines.

– Jeremy Newberry and Anttaj Hawthrorne were matched in a rousing training camp scuffle in which Newberry, while holding Hawthorne's shoulder pads with his left arm, landed at least six uppercuts to the midsection.

With all the padding, of course, neither appeared injured.
 
– Coincidence or not, Josh McCown had his worst practice of training camp on the same day the Raiders signed Daunte Culpepper.

McCown had passes intercepted by Nnamdi Asomugha while deep in his own territory (he underthrew Jerry Porter) and forced one into coverage that was stolen by B.J. Ward. There was also a near-pick by safety Hiram Eugene.

– Culpepper will be meet with the media following practice and Al Davis is also scheduled to talk with the press.

"He'll be a part of the competition to be the starting quarterback," Kiffin said. "We'll give him the opportunity and see if he can take it, and if he can't, he'll be a backup."

Game over. McCown clearly can't handle the heat. The job's Culpepper's to lose.
 
Training camp, Day 5

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Tuesday at 6:45 pm

News and notes, sights and sounds from the Raiders training camp practice Tuesday:

– Coincidence or not, Josh McCown had his worst practice of training camp on the same day the Raiders signed Daunte Culpepper.

McCown had passes intercepted by Nnamdi Asomugha while deep in his own territory (he underthrew Jerry Porter) and forced one into coverage that was stolen by B.J. Ward. There was also a near-pick by safety Hiram Eugene.

– Culpepper will be meet with the media following practice and Al Davis is also scheduled to talk with the press.

"He'll be a part of the competition to be the starting quarterback," Kiffin said. "We'll give him the opportunity and see if he can take it, and if he can't, he'll be a backup."

– Linebacker Kirk Morrison made a spectacular interception on a sideline flip from Andrew Walter to fullback Justin Griffith.

– He's a longshot, but probably no more than a longshot than Will Buchanon last year _ rookie free agent wide receiver Chris McFoy made a diving sideline grab and later broke slant reception for big yardage.

– Practice seemed to be down a notch in terms of player enthusiasm and intensity. Coach Lane Kiffin gathered his team near the end to get more out of the final 20 plays.

– It's a long way from behing ready to be part of a five-man chain and know line changes and blocking responsibilities, but tackle Mario Henderson is an impressive specimen during one-on-one drills with defensive linemen _ any defensive linemen.

(Keep in mind Derrick Burgess is still on PUP and can't provide the best test).

– Guard Cooper Carlisle, linebacker Jon Condo and fullback Oren O'Neil were all yanked from the field for errors by coaches, all returning a short time later.

– Maybe it's just a coincidence, but running back LaMont Jordan has not practiced because of a sore lower back since swinging from his heels during the Raiders' "Home Run Derby." Jordan launched one over a 300-foot fence.

– The Raiders are getting thin at running back. ReShard Lee went down with a knee injury after being buried on a sweep to the left. He was tended to on the field by the training staff. Dominic Rhodes missed practice with a foot injury.

– Adimchinobe Echemandu continues to be the most impressive practice runner. He seems a good fit for the one-cut style which suits a zone blocking scheme.

– Barry Sims was out with a sore abdominal muscle, with Paul McQuistan take reps as a first-team left tackle and Robert Gallery remaining at left guard.

– Cornerback Stanford Routt was out with an unspecified minor injury, although he appeared to moving very slowly along the sidelines.

– Jeremy Newberry and Anttaj Hawthrorne were matched in a rousing training camp scuffle in which Newberry, while holding Hawthorne's shoulder pads with his left arm, landed at least six uppercuts to the midsection.

With all the padding, of course, neither appeared injured.

Thanks AP. Newbs and Tajj throwing down. gotta love it. That stuff pumps me up. I think A.EcheMandu is really turning some heads. Does he have a nickname yet? How about E-Man. or AMan. This guys name has been killing me since he was at Cal.
 
LOL...they call him Joe but that doesn't work either....
 
– Maybe it's just a coincidence, but running back LaMont Jordan has not practiced because of a sore lower back since swinging from his heels during the Raiders' "Home Run Derby." Jordan launched one over a 300-foot fence.

– The Raiders are getting thin at running back. ReShard Lee went down with a knee injury after being buried on a sweep to the left. He was tended to on the field by the training staff. Dominic Rhodes missed practice with a foot injury.

At this rate Socal may get his wish and get to see Cory Dillon brought in... Lamont Jordan makes it real tough to believe in him...


– Jeremy Newberry and Anttaj Hawthrorne were matched in a rousing training camp scuffle in which Newberry, while holding Hawthorne's shoulder pads with his left arm, landed at least six uppercuts to the midsection.

This is the sign of a true vet, if you're going to fight, make sure you hit something as soft as jello...
 
A couple of things stand out to me...

  • I'm loving everything I hear about Mario Henderson. He seems to be getting it at an early stage. Certainly not a starter yet, but it's good to see he has talent to build off of.
  • Everything I've read about Oren O'Neal so far indicates he's out of his league in the NFL. Sounds like Kiffen found his camp whipping boy... much the same way Gruden used to find a guy.
  • Anybody else left curious as to why NOTHING has been mentioned about the DT position? No "Warren Sapp lost 50lbs and is virutally unblockable." Or "Terdell Sands is consistently pushing two O-lineman back into the RB." Or "Tommy Kelly is slashing inside on some plays." Or "Antaaj Hawthorne is every bit the slug he's always been." Anybody find this odd? Nothing... zero... zip... nada.
  • It sounds to me like Kirk Morrison took Rob Ryan's challenge to be a Pro Bowl MLB to heart.
 
I think I love Jeremy Newberry...

Six uppercuts to Taj's midsection?

This dude is nasty in the Wisniewski mold...
 
July 31, 2007

There was some football involved

NAPA - With all the chatter about Daunte Culpepper it's easy to forget the Raiders did practice today.

And it featured three common things from training camp.

*Backup safety B.J. Ward impressing with his hitting and in pass coverage with an interception.

*Adimchinobe Echemandu running hard against the defense. He ran a lot today with LaMont Jordan (back), Dominic Rhodes (foot) and ReShard Lee (knee) out of practice.

*And my favorite, center Jeremy Newberry was being himself.

Newberry continues to show nastiness about his play, which was missing last season on the offensive line (Kevin Boothe showed the most tenacity consistently last year).

Today he put Anttaj Hawthorne on his back on a running play (again). The two would exchange punches later in practice after a pass play.

Actually, it was Newberry doing most of the punching, landing several shots to Hawthorne's midsection while teammates tried to restrain him.

I get the feeling this won't be the last time Newberry fights in camp.

And you can bet no one will be dancing over a Raider quarterback if he's on the field unless they want to fight Newberry.

--Jason Jones
 
Coach Kiffin Camp Q&A: Day 5

July 31, 2007

Raiders Head Coach Lane Kiffin addressed the media after Day 5 of Training Camp 2007. Coach Kiffin talked about the signing of veteran QB Daunte Culpepper.

Q: What is the latest with Daunte [Culpepper], how did he look today and how close are you guys to reaching an agreement?

Kiffin: Daunte signed his contract to be an Oakland Raider. He will be available for you guys after practice in the morning, at noon tomorrow. He will be up here this evening, he is going to stay here we will meet with him tonight, he is part of our team right now and we will get into more details at noon tomorrow at the press conference for him. He will be part of the competition here for the starting quarterback and we will give him the opportunity.

Q: What does he bring to this team? What does it do for you to have a guy like Daunte who is a veteran?

Kiffin: We are very excited to have Daunte to add him to the mix and see if he can helps us and we did have a workout this morning and he threw the ball extremely well.

Q: How many passes do you figure Culpepper threw today?

Kiffin: He probably threw about sixty passes and half the workout wasn’t just focused on the passes, we had to see him run around and scramble and do different things because his arm didn’t go away, so we weren’t worried about that, we had to make sure everything else is good.

Q: And is he healthy, I mean can he come out here and practice right away?

Kiffin: Yeah he will be practicing full practice and going through every drill tomorrow morning.
 
Cooper Carlisle coming off the field for errors is kind of surprising...

I had real good feeling that Mario was going to catch on quick. His being labeled a quick learner and Cable pushing are a good combination...

Echemandu sure is working well in trying to win a roster spot...he has been the almost exact opposite of Jordan both in the pass catching and blocking in camp...

I am very interested in seeing how Millard's coaching has worked with Hawthorne...hopefully it has...

I like BJ Ward's attitude. He knows that he has to make an impression and he is doing all he can....

One other player I was following..James Adkisson is hurt with a hamstring...like to see if he can build from last year...
 
Oakland Raiders: The Firm of Morrison and Howard

Dennis Wyatt


Napa Valley, California

The Oakland Raiders had the third best rated defense in the NFL last year. They probably would have fared better had the offense been able to stay on the field a bit longer. Even though the offense was amongst the leaders of three and outs, the defense kept most games close at hand. An unfortunate effect of having a big number in the losing column is some players who deserve to go to the pro bowl are left out when they shouldn’t be. Warren Sapp led the league in sacks from the tackle position and wasn’t invited. Nnamdi Asomugha tied for second in the league in interceptions, yet did not make it.

Another Raider who should have made it but didn’t is one of the best linebackers in all of football, Kirk Morrison. When talking to Morrison about his greatness the first thing he mentions of all things is his camp roommate and fellow linebacker Thomas Howard. The Raiders are very fortunate to have two young linebackers in only their second and third years who are pro bowl worthy. Most teams would love to have one player of the caliber of Morrison and Howard. The importance of both to the Raiders is unquestionable. Morrison was first on the team in tackles last year from the middle linebacker spot and Howard was right behind him in second from the right outside linebacker position. The firm of Morrison and Howard takes care of business in and out of the backfield.

Their quickness from the linebacker spot is unrivaled, they helped the Raiders lead the league in pass defense. When looking at the two together you could possibly mistake them for basketball players, they are greyhound lean. The way they play off of their defensive linemen and each other seems to be way beyond their years, youth and speed allows them to recover if they ever are out of position.

I don’t know if it is youthful exuberance or the fact they are just two exceptional individuals, when questioned about the lack of offense last year the best I could get out of the two was the defense needs to play even better to get the offense more opportunities. When speaking about the current offense Howard reflected upon it this way, “The new offensive coaches have a certain energy to them, up-beat energy, and the offensive players are feeding off of it. If they are not giving it their all, the coaches take steps to make sure they do and it is spreading like a virus throughout the whole team.”

The Raiders lost a lot of close games last year. With the addition of a veteran quarterback like Daunte Culpepper, Howard tends to think that the Raiders won’t lose those close games this year. “You play this game to win. It hurts when you lose, especially when you play with all of the emotion and compassion that our defense plays with and as a team. Playing at home is all about that feeling you get in the black hole, coming out in that silver and black the fans have your back there like no other stadium in America. It’s the energy they make you feel and you have to love them for that.”

Listening to Kirk Morrison you would think he’s ready for the season opener, “We are seriously looking forward to the new year, Thomas has a year under his belt, I have two years now under my belt and I just know that we will continue to hold each other accountable. If I don’t make the tackle he will, if he doesn’t make the tackle I will, and half of the time we will end up making the tackle together, that is just how it should be.”

Kirk and Thomas are tight off the field and even tighter on the field. Look forward to pro bowl type play again from both of them and don’t be surprised if you see them in Hawaii in February. Opposing backs and receivers should beware, if they come towards the way of the firm of Morrison and Howard, they will be taxed heavily.
 
FFMasterMind.com Team QuickBits
Last Updated: Tue Jul 31, 2007, 7:14 PM PDT

Oakland Raiders


-- Raiders Injury Update --
Tue Jul 31, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

InsideBayArea.com reports Oakland Raiders RB LaMont Jordan (sore lower back) has not practiced because of a sore lower back since swinging from his heels during the Raiders' "Home Run Derby." Jordan launched one over a 300-foot fence. The Raiders are getting thin at running back. RB ReShard Lee (knee) went down with a knee injury after being buried on a sweep to the left during Tuesday's practice. He was tended to on the field by the training staff. RB Dominic Rhodes (foot) missed practice with a foot injury. RB Adimchinobe Echemandu continues to be the most impressive practice runner. He seems a good fit for the one-cut style which suits a zone blocking scheme. In other injury news, OLT Barry Sims (sore addominal muscle) was out with a sore abdominal muscle, with OT Paul McQuistan take reps as a first-team left tackle and OG Robert Gallery remaining at left guard. CB Stanford Routt (unspecified) was out with an unspecified minor injury, although he appeared to moving very slowly along the sidelines.


-- Three Raiders Get Pulled --
Tue Jul 31, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

InsideBayArea.com reports Oakland Raiders OG Cooper Carlisle, LB Jon Condo and FB Oren O'Neil were all yanked from the field for errors by coaches on Tuesday, all returning a short time later.


-- McFoy Getting Noticed --Tue Jul 31, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

InsideBayArea.com reports Oakland Raiders undrafted rookie WR Chris McFoy made a diving sideline grab and later broke slant reception for big yardage during Tuesday's practice.


-- Kirk Morrison Makes Spectacular Play --
Tue Jul 31, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

InsideBayArea.com reports Oakland Raiders MLB Kirk Morrison made a spectacular interception on a sideline flip from QB Andrew Walter to FB Justin Griffith on Tuesday.


-- Josh McCown Struggles --Tue Jul 31, 2007 --from FFMastermind.com

InsideBayArea.com reports Oakland Raiders QB Josh McCown had his worst practice of training camp on the same day the Raiders signed QB Daunte Culpepper. McCown had passes intercepted by B Nnamdi Asomugha while deep in his own territory (he underthrew WR Jerry Porter) and forced one into coverage that was stolen by S B.J. Ward. There was also a near-pick by S Hiram Eugene.
 
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/teams/report/OAK/10275382

The Raiders contend they play their safeties to the left and right, without regard to strong or weak.

That company line worked well enough when the starters were Stuart Schweigert and Michael Huff, neither of which has the classic build or lay-the-wood quality of an in-the-box strong safety.

Early indications, however, are that when free agent acquisition Donovin Darius is in the game, he will be the one in the box with Huff moving to deep, or free safety.

--TE Courtney Anderson, expendable following the draft of second-round pick Zach Miller, was waived and claimed by the Miami Dolphins.

--SS Darnell Bing, a fourth-round draft pick last season who was originally tried at weak-side linebacker, was waived before training camp following the free agent signing of Donovin Darius.

--C Jeremy Newberry, a former 49er who hasn't played regularly for three years, was practicing once a day and running with the second team.

--RB LaMont Jordan, who reluctantly accepted a roster bonus cut from $4.75 million to $3 million to remain with the team, was struggling with his receiving in the early days of camp, dropping a number of passes.

--RB Michael Bush, a fourth-round draft pick from Louisville, opened training camp on the Physically Unable to Perform list. Bush sustained a broken leg in Louisville's opener and underwent two surgeries.

EXPECTED BATTLE OF THE WEEK
Zach Miller vs. John Madsen. Miller immediately got some first-team reps after signing a contract. He will be given every opportunity to become the starting tight end, and Madsen is the only player with enough receiving skills to make it a contest.

OTHER BATTLE FRONTS
Jon Condo vs. Chris Morris for long-snapper. Both were having trouble getting the ball to Shane Lechler initially following the release of veteran Adam Treu.

ROOKIE REPORT
TE Zach Miller immediately got some reps with the first team after signing. ... OT Mario Williams was working with the second team on the right side. ... WR Johnnie Lee Higgins was fielding punts along with incumbent Chris Carr. ... DB John Bowie was working as a backup in the secondary and most likely will break in on special teams, as was safety Eric Frampton.

INJURY REPORT
DE Derrick Burgess was on the PUP list, recovering from hernia surgery. C Jeremy Newberry will participate in only one of two practices on double-days as he recovers from microfracture knee surgery. RB Michael Bush, on the PUP list, is working with trainers and in the weight room after breaking his leg and having two surgeries at Louisville.
 
Here are a few of things I wish I never hear again from NFL player, coaches or owners:

• I'm excited to be here in _________________.
• We're excited to have _________________on our team.
• The ____________are excited to have the great ___________as the 37th coach of the _____________.

Jesus H. Christ. Everybody is excited until they get cut, fired or suspended by the league. :rolleyes:
 
Sound familiar? Mike Williams having weight problems in Oakland

August 1, 2007

Raiders coach Lane Kiffin coached Mike Williams at Southern Cal.

But just like Lions coaches begged Williams for years, Kiffin wants Williams to slim down.

"We'd love for him to be down at about 235," Kiffin told the San Francisco Chronicle. "I've seen him play really well at that weight before. We've got a ways to get there, as far as time frame."

Williams was the 10th overall pick of the 2005 draft, but he felt he never fit in with the Lions. Williams had several issues in Detroit, most notably his weight. He was fined tens of thousands of dollars for being over their weight targets for him. The Lions wanted him at 230 pounds as a rookie. They wanted him at 220 last year.

Kiffin didn't say what Williams weighs now. The Chronicle reported that the official team roster listed him at 230 pounds, obviously not accurate.

Kiffin told the paper that part of the problem is Williams suffered a hamstring injury in his first minicamp in Oakland and didn't practice again until training camp opened Friday.

"The last thing we want to do is push him so far and try and lose so much weight that we get another hamstring (injury)," Kiffin said.

After taking wide receiver Calvin Johnson and quarterback Drew Stanton in April's NFL draft, the Lions traded Williams and Josh McCown to Oakland for a fourth-round pick.

Said Matt Millen, after the trade: "It was time to move on, but not by our choice. (Williams) never showed up. So this is the best for him, and it's the best for us. And it's a shame because he has great abilities. If he plays to his abilities, the kid's got tons of skills. I wish him the best. We wish him the best as an organization, but it didn't work out here for him."

The Lions open the regular season Sept. 9 at Oakland.
 
Sound familiar? Mike Williams having weight problems in Oakland

Kiffin didn't say what Williams weighs now. The Chronicle reported that the official team roster listed him at 230 pounds, obviously not accurate.

Kiffin told the paper that part of the problem is Williams suffered a hamstring injury in his first minicamp in Oakland and didn't practice again until training camp opened Friday.

"The last thing we want to do is push him so far and try and lose so much weight that we get another hamstring (injury)," Kiffin said.
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Cut this fat slug now.
 
The Raiders got a roster exemption for TE Randal Williams, who has left the team for personal reasons.

Tuesday's practice was the third consecutive without full pads.

Al Davis was at practice again, and he spent some 10 minutes talking to Kiffin on the field afterward.

I have been reading each day about his not being in training camp...at least we get to the exemption.
 
Raiders Team Report

July 31, 2007

Steve Corkran

First-year coach Lane Kiffin's makeover of the Raiders roster kicked into high gear in the days leading up to training camp, as he released long-snapper Adam Treu, safeties Jarrod Cooper and Darnell Bing and TE Courtney Anderson. All except Bing played key roles for the Raiders the past three seasons or more, and Bing was a fourth-round draft pick in 2006. Anderson was the starting tight end the past three seasons, but he failed to impress Kiffin during offseason workouts. To that end, the Raiders selected Zach Miller in the draft in April and earmarked him for Anderson's job. Anderson hurt his stock by dropping too many catchable passes the past two seasons and inconsistent blocking. Cooper and Treu were viewed as too inexpensive to keep around as role players. FS Stuart Schweigert has worked hard on his one-on-one pass coverage in anticipation of covering tight ends at times this season. In the past, Schweigert hasn't had to worry about working on his one-on-one coverage as much. Using Schweigert on tight ends figures to free up the more versatile Michael Huff to make plays elsewhere.

NEWCOMER REPORT: New QB Josh McCown has won over coach Lane Kiffin and his teammates by his command of the offense, his strong work ethic and the ability to move the offense on a consistent basis. He doesn't have the strongest arm of the top three quarterbacks on the roster but he is the most accurate and has the most experience. McCown accepts his role as someone holding down the position until No. 1 pick JaMarcus Russell is ready to take over as the long-term starter. McCown might not start for a lot of other NFL teams, but he has shown that he is capable of starting for the Raiders if that's the way Kiffin wants to go right away.

PLAYBOOK UPDATE: Kiffin has implemented his version of the West Coast offense with a team that was accustomed to using more of a vertical offense in recent seasons. Some of the big changes include the following: the use of more traditional tight ends, ones who are accustomed to blocking; the use of rollouts by the quarterback as a means of moving the pocket, buying more time for plays to unfold and making it easier on an offensive line that allowed a league-worst 72 sacks last season; the implementation of a zone-blocking scheme favored by new offensive line coach Tom Cable, something that plays to the strengths of his linemen; the two-headed approach in the backfield, with LaMont Jordan and Dominic Rhodes slated to split the workload; and using the fullback and tight ends more in the receiving game, something the Raiders didn't do much last season. Defensively, the Raiders figure to have their safeties better disguise their assignments by dividing their responsibilities by halves of the field. This way, SS Michael Huff might cover the tight end or play run support one down, then drop into coverage or freelance on the next down, even though he showed a similar look. The Raiders also are going to try to create more pressure on the quarterback by using the likes of Kevin Huntley and Quentin Moses at end opposite pass-rush specialist Derrick Burgess, with Tyler Brayton moving inside as a backup tackle.
 
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