FUCK YOU PAUL GUENTHER (and now you're GONE)

Raidervinny said:
No wonder he was so happy to get the fuck out:

Ted Nguyen
@FB_FilmAnalysis
Makes sense why players like Crosby have been unlocked after Guenther. Glad Key is having success in SF. Wonder how Hurst will do if he can get healthy.


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Willie Anderson
@BigWillie7179
Replying to @BrandonThornNFL
Saw him in @chucksmithnfl gym 2 years ago and I asked him why don’t he use the moves he works on with Chuck. Said his DC wouldn’t let him ! I was like that’s sad cuz they (the Raiders) we’re holding him back ! This dude been that guy since Highschool here in Georgia
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Shit makes absolutely no sense. Someone help me understand. There's got to be a reason.
 
Raidervinny said:
No wonder he was so happy to get the fuck out:

Ted Nguyen
@FB_FilmAnalysis
Makes sense why players like Crosby have been unlocked after Guenther. Glad Key is having success in SF. Wonder how Hurst will do if he can get healthy.


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Willie Anderson
@BigWillie7179
Replying to @BrandonThornNFL
Saw him in @chucksmithnfl gym 2 years ago and I asked him why don’t he use the moves he works on with Chuck. Said his DC wouldn’t let him ! I was like that’s sad cuz they (the Raiders) we’re holding him back ! This dude been that guy since Highschool here in Georgia
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Sounds like excuse making, to me. Crosby had 10 sacks as a rookie. Key was given every opportunity here. Good for him for achieving some level of success in SF as a pass rush specialist (3.5% SIS; 61.2 PFF).
 
Crow said:
Shit makes absolutely no sense. Someone help me understand. There's got to be a reason.
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Ted was replying to this guy:


Willie Anderson
@BigWillie7179
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Replying to @BrandonThornNFL
Saw him in @chucksmithnfl gym 2 years ago and I asked him why don’t he use the moves he works on with Chuck. Said his DC wouldn’t let him ! I was like that’s sad cuz they (the Raiders) we’re holding him back ! This dude been that guy since Highschool here in Georgia
 
Raidervinny said:
Ted was replying to this guy:


Willie Anderson
@BigWillie7179
· 17h
Replying to @BrandonThornNFL
Saw him in @chucksmithnfl gym 2 years ago and I asked him why don’t he use the moves he works on with Chuck. Said his DC wouldn’t let him ! I was like that’s sad cuz they (the Raiders) we’re holding him back ! This dude been that guy since Highschool here in Georgia
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The exchange made sense. The idea that Guenther wouldn't let Key use passrush moves does not. I need that explained to me.
 
Crow said:
Shit makes absolutely no sense. Someone help me understand. There's got to be a reason.
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Guenther wants his DEs to lock out their long arms and engage the OTs throughout the rush. It's the only move that Ferrell used in college.

That would explain why Guenther wanted Ferrell #4 and why Key wasn't allowed to use advanced hand fighting.
 
Sleet said:
Sounds like excuse making, to me. Crosby had 10 sacks as a rookie. Key was given every opportunity here. Good for him for achieving some level of success in SF as a pass rush specialist (3.5% SIS; 61.2 PFF).
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And Guenther kept trying to fix Maxx too. He was too active. Didn't engage the OT. Wanted to fight hands and get past. Paulie doesn't like that.
 
Nobodyinparticular said:
Guenther wants his DEs to lock out their long arms and engage the OTs throughout the rush. It's the only move that Ferrell used in college.

That would explain why Guenther wanted Ferrell #4 and why Key wasn't allowed to use advanced hand fighting.
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But...but...
 
Crow said:
The exchange made sense. The idea that Guenther wouldn't let Key use passrush moves does not. I need that explained to me.
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I think @Sleet is correct. We tried him in so many different ways to try and get production that I find it hard to believe that someone was telling him not to use pass rush moves. And that person really would have been Marinelli more so than Guenther which makes it even harder to believe. I've watched him quite a bit in SF and it's nothing specific about his usage or technique... he's just playing better. If anything it's his first step and closing speed. I think it's just a case of a guy needing the kick in the ass of having his career look finite.
 
Nobodyinparticular said:
Is there ANYTHING that Guenther did that seemed logical to you? Or... Does it fit the narrative that he was unyielding and unbendable, forcing his players to change to fit his very rigid expectation of players?

Your response is perfect.
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Maybe it's his LB coach mentality. The DL keeps the OL engaged so the LBs stay clean. How you're supposed to rush the QB like that, I don't know. I...Jesus.

One of the most frustrating things in life, at least for me, is having no fucking clue what someone's thought process is or could possibly be. Nevermind agreeing or disagreeing. I just want shit to make some type of sense. How did you arrive at your idea? I have no idea here, and it irks me.
 
gst8 said:
I think @Sleet is correct. We tried him in so many different ways to try and get production that I find it hard to believe that someone was telling him not to use pass rush moves. And that person really would have been Marinelli more so than Guenther which makes it even harder to believe. I've watched him quite a bit in SF and it's nothing specific about his usage or technique... he's just playing better. If anything it's his first step and closing speed. I think it's just a case of a guy needing the kick in the ass of having his career look finite.
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This at least makes sense.
 
Nobodyinparticular said:
Guenther wants his DEs to lock out their long arms and engage the OTs throughout the rush. It's the only move that Ferrell used in college.

That would explain why Guenther wanted Ferrell #4 and why Key wasn't allowed to use advanced hand fighting.
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G’s an idiot, no argument from me there. But on passing downs, you think G demanded that?
 
007 said:
Sign me up for some Wade Philips for Christmas.

I actually wouldnt mind looking at a stud college play caller on D.

Jim Leonhard, Grantham. Pay Jimmy Lake a fuckin boat load and bring him in.
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Jimmy Lake is available now.

Amazing how much changes in a year.
 
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Darkenblot said:
Jimmy Lake is available now.

Amazing how much changes in a year.
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Hahaha choking a fuckin player or two on the sideline usually fucks up your NFL future.

Dude got a 10 million buy out too.
 
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