Offseason Suit Thread

Actually MLB nor NHL have rules that require players to stand for the National Anthem. Only the NBA/WNBA have rules that prohibit players from taking a knee.

I agree it's a no win situation for both the NFL and the players now. Like I said, Trump checkmated them. Kaep quite honestly IMO blew it. He had the focus of the sports world on him along with a few other players, and they blew it. They had what they thought would be a silent protest going even though it was still a very loud statement in of itself. So instead of owning up to such a loud statement was being made, they tried not to poke the bear. Instead the following year the bear came and poked them. Those players should have taken the window of opportunity they had, and really worked the media circut. Instead of ensuring their protest couldn't be misinterpreted, or that their message would be heard, they decided to try and continue this very loud, silent protest, and unfortunately Trump in one simple statement and a few pointed Tweets, for all intents and purposes changed everything.

Was Trump wrong for what he did? Not at all, he strengthened his base further, he will be able to claim that "he fixed" what the NFL couldn't fix and suggested players use other ways to talk about social issues instead of not supporting the our troops.. Support him or not, he's done a masterful job of making it un-American to use the National Anthem as a way of protesting, even though, that actually may be one of the most American things you and I have the freedom to do.
Good post.

But I do not think an entertainer protesting at work, on stage, at an organized event, in front of paying customers, is an “American” thing to do . . . if you want to keep your job. The NBA got it right. You can be anti-social and say the Anthem should not be part of the pregame ritual, but it is. And the NFL blew it, IMO, and Trump seized on the mistake of letting hired entertainers offend customers on stage, at work, during this pregame ritual.
 
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I feel like I'm in the twilight zone when we have a US President jumping into a private corporation's issue with employees silently protesting and we have Americans saying that's a positive thing. You can disagree with the protest. I'm right there with you and I want the protests to be done. The NFL can tell it's players that they're done kneeling or else. But when a President is saying that Americans should be kicked out of the country for silently protesting and you're pointing to it as a positive... what the hell happened to our country? That's about as un-American as it gets.
 
I'm not the smartest MF'er here but...

Why don't these black NFL players ever go to a inner city high school one day and gather students in the auditorium and explain to them how the easiest thing you'll ever do in life is to graduate high school.. then encourage them to stop slinging dick and put a fuckin boot on that shit... and foremost... tell them when encountered by the police to fuckin comply.. don't fight them, don't run and when they tell you to take your hands out your pocket fuckin do it... It may not stop profiling but atleast you wont die... How come every video I see of a MF'er getting shot by the police his dumb ass is fighting with them, running from them or disobeying commands.. I just saw today a rookie basketball player from Milwaukee who was surrounding by 6 cops- told numerous times to get his hands out his pocket and he wants to show his ass and disobey and gets ragged dolled to the ground and gets fucking tazed...

Now he wants to sue the city...

Everything Kaep is protesting is a bunch of fuckin knuckleheads that wanna fight the police... I'm not saying it's gonna stop profiling... but got damn.. you just might get off with a warning.. instead you wanna start shit and fight and yer ass gets shot... Start there... got damn already
 
I'm not the smartest MF'er here but...

Why don't these black NFL players ever go to a inner city high school one day and gather students in the auditorium and explain to them how the easiest thing you'll ever do in life is to graduate high school.. then encourage them to stop slinging dick and put a fuckin boot on that shit... and foremost... tell them when encountered by the police to fuckin comply.. don't fight them, don't run and when they tell you to take your hands out your pocket fuckin do it... It may not stop profiling but atleast you wont die... How come every video I see of a MF'er getting shot by the police his dumb ass is fighting with them, running from them or disobeying commands.. I just saw today a rookie basketball player from Milwaukee who was surrounding by 6 cops- told numerous times to get his hands out his pocket and he wants to show his ass and disobey and gets ragged dolled to the ground and gets fucking tazed...
A lot of them have done such things. Here's a good article on that... https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-teams-charitable-efforts-part-protests-running-list-134152884.html .... A quick Google search can find a bunch more.

A guy puts his hands in his pockets because it's 27 degrees out and he was dressed for a quick stop at the store. You hear the cops? "Anyone have a taser?"... when you have 4 (edit -- it was actually 5) guys pinning him down and he was never aggressive to begin with. He put his hands in his pockets. He was not told multiple times, he was told once in the video they showed and then the cops pounced. That's fucking crazy. Dude parked illegally and in 2 minutes has half a dozen cops surrounding him. Give him a ticket and go about your night. The cop was looking to be a prick from the minute he started talking to the guy. And kept on it for a half an hour. The shitty thing is he's back on the force in two days and now that the tape is out it'll be the taxpayers paying for his lawsuit and salary at the same time.
 
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With this new rule change the players will feel like they had their “rights taken away”, and I’m sure there will be some who out of spite still kneel and get fined. And the media will turn it into a fucking circus just like last season. I hate the fact that they kneel. I agree they have the right, but I don’t like it. I really wish they would just choose another way of “protesting”. There are so many other ways to bring light to what they are actually protesting. All kneeling has done has divided players/coaches/owners/fans. Fuckin’ season hasn’t even started yet and it’s already the hottest topic.
 
I just find it fucking pathetic that Trump has given this anthem bullshit more attention than the kids getting gunned down every week in our schools. Such a petty, petty piece of shit. Sorry, I didn’t mean to get all political and I know the mods are going to be pissed.
 
A lot of them have done such things. Here's a good article on that... https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-teams-charitable-efforts-part-protests-running-list-134152884.html

A quick Google search can find a bunch more.

Well good then... that's a start... Here's a good example of why this shit happens.. just saw this this morning... ya gotta be like certified retarded to try and show yer ass with 6 cops telling you to get your hands out of your pocket...

They tell him to get his hands out of his pockets and he tells them no... then he wants to fight ... see, this is why this shit happens.. cops don't know if this knucklehead has a gun.or not... he's really fortunate he didnt get shot....then he wants to fight them on the ground..

I just don't understand why MF'ers wanna get all stupid with cops and shit... just makes no sense

 
Well good then... that's a start... Here's a good example of why this shit happens.. just saw this this morning... ya gotta be like certified retarded to try and show yer ass with 6 cops telling you to get your hands out of your pocket...

They tell him to get his hands out of his pockets and he tells them no.... see, this is why this shit happens.. cops don't know if this knucklehead has a gun or not... he's really fortunate he didnt get shot....

I just don't understand why MF'ers wanna get all stupid with cops and shit... just makes no sense


All this over parking illegally in a Walgreens. Jesus. It's 2AM and 27 degrees out and he's being held up for something that's a $10 ticket where I'm from. Why are there that many cops even there for that shit? And why is he being interrogated over something so small?

"He's really fortunate he didn't get shot..."

Because he was irritated he was being treated like a criminal over parking illegally. People should feel lucky not to be shot over that. And you wonder why black people think there's a problem...
 
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As I just said on @OTLonESPN sources in the room told me there was no official vote for the anthem resolution. League execs polled owners and knew how they’d vote but didn’t hold an official vote, atypical for such a major resolution.

✔@SethWickersham

Also told that Mark Davis was one of the most eloquent speakers on the social justice issues—and that he abstained from the vote as well.
 
Well good then... that's a start... Here's a good example of why this shit happens.. just saw this this morning... ya gotta be like certified retarded to try and show yer ass with 6 cops telling you to get your hands out of your pocket...

They tell him to get his hands out of his pockets and he tells them no... then he wants to fight ... see, this is why this shit happens.. cops don't know if this knucklehead has a gun.or not... he's really fortunate he didnt get shot....then he wants to fight them on the ground..

I just don't understand why MF'ers wanna get all stupid with cops and shit... just makes no sense


When cops are murdering members of your race all the damn time for no fucking reason you'd want to fight as well. Take off your gun and badge cowards and fight like men. Fuck the police.
 
I just find it fucking pathetic that Trump has given this anthem bullshit more attention than the kids getting gunned down every week in our schools. Such a petty, petty piece of shit. Sorry, I didn’t mean to get all political and I know the mods are going to be pissed.

I don't think he's given it more attention, his words on the subject though ripple through the entire media. So when he sends out a simple statement or makes a tweet it's not only covered by the National media, but it's also covered by the sports media as well. It gets the double whammy of the news market.
 
I just find it fucking pathetic that Trump has given this anthem bullshit more attention than the kids getting gunned down every week in our schools. Such a petty, petty piece of shit. Sorry, I didn’t mean to get all political and I know the mods are going to be pissed.

Because the NRA has him in their back pocket. He needs to stop sticking his fat head in issues that don’t concern him and focus on bigger issues.
 
All this over parking illegally in a Walgreens. Jesus. It's 2AM and 27 degrees out and he's being held up for something that's a $10 ticket where I'm from. Why are there that many cops even there for that shit? And why is he being interrogated over something so small?

"He's really fortunate he didn't get shot..."

Because he was irritated he was being treated like a criminal over parking illegally. People should feel lucky not to be shot over that. And you wonder why black people think there's a problem...

No, and no... there was atleast 3 backups that arrived... this wan't one cop on patrol... this pretty much tells you the dumbass didnt comply with the 1st cop and he called in backup....
 
When cops are murdering members of your race all the damn time for no fucking reason you'd want to fight as well. Take off your gun and badge cowards and fight like men. Fuck the police.

You should walk up to the next police officer you see and punch him in the fuckin face.. since you're a tough guy and shit-
 
When cops are murdering members of your race all the damn time for no fucking reason you'd want to fight as well. Take off your gun and badge cowards and fight like men. Fuck the police.

I’d be scared shitless if I were a black man and pulled over by cops for no reason for driving at night. My friend in NY told me when he was driving through wealthy suburbs in CT on his way to work would always be profiled by the local cops. Dude drove a Saab too.
 
You should walk up to the next police officer you see and punch him in the face.. since you're a tough guy and shit-
OK;) He wouldn't take his badge or gun off because those cock suckers don't fight fair. But if he did I'd be down. Fuck the police and their white washed fan boys.
 
I’d be scared shitless if I were a black man and pulled over by cops for no reason for driving at night. My friend in NY told me when he was driving through wealthy suburbs in CT on his way to work would always be profiled by the local cops. Dude drove a Saab too.
Probably figured he stole it
 
No, and no... there was atleast 3 backups that arrived... this wan't one cop on patrol... this pretty much tells you the dumbass didnt comply with the 1st cop and he called in backup....
You can see on the video that he called in backup immediately while Brown stood next to his car. They were there in 2 minutes from the time the cop approached him. Watch the video. It should've been handled in 5 minutes or less but the cop wanted to be a prick and make the dude feel like he was a criminal. 7 other cops were called in for this. What a joke.

 
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