What is the Raiders BIGGEST need?

What is the Raiders biggest need?

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Put me down for a linebacker, make it a double. There's no way you can make the playoffs (unless you're coach's name is Belichek) playing a nickle as your base defense. I'd sign one and draft another. There are several that will go in the first couple of rounds, so we don't need to use our top pick on Hawk. If we strike out in FA on the O-line, I'd go after Ferguson with our #1, if he's still available. If not, Williams or Ngata would do nicely. We should be able to draft an impact player with that pick, hopefully we don't screw it up.

Even with how bad the O-line is, it will be easier to fix than if we neglect the D in the offseason. Our defense is starting to turn the corner, so we need to continue to get younger and faster as a unit. You can win in this league with a caretaker at QB, but only if you've got a stellar defense.
 
RaiderIVlife said:
Rupert - I assume you like AJ Hawk, if you we're Al, would you take him if Williams was already off the board?
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You know, I haven't seen much of him except the bowl game and my initial impression was that he reminded me a LOT of Rob Fredrickson. Rob played better than another guy who reminded me of him Napoleon Harris. Maybe Hawk can surpass both of them. If he does, he won't have been drafted by the Raiders. Backers either come here fully formed or they hardly develop, just an general observation, not a universal truism.
 
RaiderIVlife said:
Rupert - What do you think of Spencer Havner (LB) from UCLA? He might be a bit smallish at OLB in the NFL, but Odell Thurman is looking pretty good in Cinci in the same role. Havner is fast and makes big plays. I think he will be available in the 3rd...
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I get the impression Havner is more of a forward player. In other words, if it's in front of him he will see it and destroy it. I see him as a Morrison-type with more speed.

I don't see Havner or Morrison being too good in space (zones) yet (?) even though they have the physical tools to be.
 
I would be surprised if Ferguson dropped to the Raiders. I can see Al going after Hawk, the LB out of OSU or one of the stud defensive ends.

-Brew
 
Strange Brew is in the house!

Mr. Brew...Welcome!

Al taking a linebacker at #6 (or #7) is a real shot in the dark. In their history the Raiders have never taken a linebacker hight than 17. Not saying it couldn't happen but it is very unlikely.

I'm just hoping Super Mario falls to the Raiders at #6...if we lose the coin flip I think that it is very unlikely he'll be around.

I wouldn't put it past Al to take Ferguson if he's there but to me Mario is our man.

We can't rule out the possibility of Al moving up in the draft. While he has NEVER traded down in the first round he has traded up a lot.

PS- Ok, OK, I'll get the draft forums opened up this weekend. Been busy procrastinating. :o
 
BREW! Welcome to the forums. And count on me for the positive spin. :D
 
I'm back! How the hell are you..........CrossBones?
 
Rob said:
I'm back! How the hell are you..........CrossBones?
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Well I'm good my friend. Glad you found your way here.

Where are all the Charger, Bronco and Chief fans?

And for Abelardo...

Il nostro amico dal Messico è visists corti effettuanti sicuri qui e la media lunga! :eek:
 
What we need is to have our owner to get his head out of his ass. OOPs I mean past . And do something about the future. We need Defence and a running game that dominates. And a coach that has some time management skills. Not falling asleep while watching film...... thats good too.
 
I have a feeling that both Williams and Ferguson will be gone by our pick. If San Francisco wins the coin flip then Hawk might be gone as well. They run a 3-4 and two of their top LB's will be FA's this off season. In this scenario the obvious choice would be Ngata IMO. However my worst fear tells me that Al is foaming at the mouth for Kiwi as we speak. I would have been all over this last year but we have Burgess to fill the speed rush role now. Besides... He seems to have regressed somewhat since last season.
 
I see Rob's got the snake queued up.

You know, I think the biggest problem is the owner finding a way to get a coach who says the right things and does the right things.

Obviously, Mr. Turner said the right things but was unable to do the right things. Not on Monday thru Saturday, and even worse, not on Sundays. I can forgive Monday thru Saturday if your shit has four corners and stands at attention on Sunday. But when it isn't squared away on Sunday, it doesn't matter what you do with the rest of your time.

That's one thing I'll give Gruden, he kept his shit spit-shined and squared away. He didn't always know what to do with it on Sunday, but he never came to the party without a bottle of booze and a handful of rubbers.

Hide the kids mommies the soldier snuck out again.
 
Bronco fans should have plenty brag, err, talk about right about now.

ROB !!!!! Hey what's up dude? Welcome aboard. I think our biggest need is to have a coach with some attitude, charisma and consistency. Does Al Saunders strike anyone in that way? I'm not so sure. Hard to say, but I do know we need a "strong personality" at the HC position. Particularly with this franchise.

Crossbones - I demand that you remove "best player available" as an option. Total copout IMO. The thread question is basically a 'wish list', aint it? I doubt that we get a sniff at Matt Lienert, but I'd consider him our single biggest need.

BTW - I see QB has crept up on the polling?
 
gst8 said:
I have a feeling that both Williams and Ferguson will be gone by our pick. If San Francisco wins the coin flip then Hawk might be gone as well. They run a 3-4 and two of their top LB's will be FA's this off season. In this scenario the obvious choice would be Ngata IMO. However my worst fear tells me that Al is foaming at the mouth for Kiwi as we speak. I would have been all over this last year but we have Burgess to fill the speed rush role now. Besides... He seems to have regressed somewhat since last season.
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Dude !!! How'd you stumble onto this place?

I'd also nab Ngata in a Hot second if Williams, Fergueson & the other top 4 players were off the board. I wouldn't hate the Kiwi pick, but Ngata fills a bigger need IMO. Burgess & Kiwi starting at DE would get us mashed in the run game. Though I doubt that we'd play both very often on run downs. Ngata would be an immediate upgrade over Washington IMO. Sands could b/u Ngata and Sapp, Hawthorne and possibly Tommy Kelly (still like him at End as well) would compete for the other DT spot.

BTW - Did that CD reach you?
 
Strange Brew !!!!!

Now that is a name I haven't heard in years. Welcome home.
 
RaiderIVlife said:
Dude !!! How'd you stumble onto this place?

I'd also nab Ngata in a Hot second if Williams, Fergueson & the other top 4 players were off the board. I wouldn't hate the Kiwi pick, but Ngata fills a bigger need IMO. Burgess & Kiwi starting at DE would get us mashed in the run game. Though I doubt that we'd play both very often on run downs. Ngata would be an immediate upgrade over Washington IMO. Sands could b/u Ngata and Sapp, Hawthorne and possibly Tommy Kelly (still like him at End as well) would compete for the other DT spot.

BTW - Did that CD reach you?
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I was surfing the net last night and happened to come across this forum. Not to many Rupert's in cyber space ya know. ;)

We're on the same page regarding Ngata. Personally I would take him over Hawk even if he is available. We can get a LB in the later rounds IMO.

I got the cd. For some reason I can't get it to play but I'm still working on it. If there's ever anything I can get for you just ask.
 
I think something about a 6' 7", 290 LB DE name Mario Williams just seems to be a good fit here, he may even be able to go inside from time to time. I have only seen one live game of his, it was their bowl game, and he and his defensive mates lit up the QB and their running game. He had 2 sacks and a couple of tackles behind the line. Unfortunately, like every other supremely gifted DL, there are motor questions. If he's there for us at 6, pull the trigger, but my heart won't be broken in the motor department by AJ Hawk.
 
I like taking Williams in the draft too.

I don't know about those motor questions. I've only seen two games and the guy seems to bring it every play. Maybe it's about being challenged, and for damn sure he'll be challenged at the NFL level.

I still think our biggest need is OL, but I'd rather get a FA or two to make the line good in a hurry. With the prospect of having Collins under center again we need the protection to be effective. I'd also like to see Jordan get the oportunity to bust through some big holes and get up a head of steam.
 
I'm going to go with the QB if you think back when we had Stabler and Plunkett the team believed in these guys. Who on this team believes in Kerry Collins and thinks he can get the job done. Sure Kerry can throw a few nice balls during the game but he loses his concentration during stretches of the game. Kerry is also getting old and with no mobility he is usesless. I say the Raiders find a a decent QB and build the offensive line around him. I think are defense will improve under Ryan and we only have to fill a few holes in the defense. I think the offense needs a lot more work and that starts with a QB that doesn't crumble when things are not going as planned.

Also a offensive line that can generate holes and stop getting false starts on first downs. What the hell was that all about this season?We go from first and ten to first and fifteen and it just seemed to multiply. We need a disciplined O-Line guys that know the snap count and ready to smash the other team in the mouth instead of getting worked.

In other news. I've come to the realization I'm not going pro damn!
 
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