Welcome to the team - WR Jack Bech

[Sleet]

I'm all about giving our rooks from last year a chance this year to step up and prove it was the coaches, not the players, causing the issues. If they fail now, it's all on them.

Wonder whether which rook played last year tracked a divide between SpyGuy and Pete? Jeanty (1st) and Porter (3rd) played. Bech (2nd), Grant (comp 3rd) and Thornton (4th) hardly played. Rogers (comp 3rd) got on the field. IDK if that was out of necessity or if Pete liked him.

 

[Crossbones]

Pete thought he was or should be in charge of the whole team. Happy he’s gone.

 

[Crow]

Wonder whether which rook played last year tracked a divide between SpyGuy and Pete? Jeanty (1st) and Porter (3rd) played. Bech (2nd), Grant (comp 3rd) and Thornton (4th) hardly played. Rogers (comp 3rd) got on the field. IDK if that was out of necessity or if Pete liked him.

Thornton was shoved into the starting lineup initially. Must have hurt Pete's feelings to move him down the depth chart when he failed to make a dent.

 

[alteredst8]

Thornton was shoved into the starting lineup initially. Must have hurt Pete's feelings to move him down the depth chart when he failed to make a dent.

After seeing this draft I’m not so sure Thornton was a “Pete guy” I kinda think Spyguy likes to swing for the dances in the 4th

 

[Crow]

After seeing this draft I’m not so sure Thornton was a “Pete guy” I kinda think Spyguy likes to swing for the dances in the 4th

He's definitely not afraid to gamble once Day 3 comes around.

 

[alteredst8]

He's definitely not afraid to gamble once Day 3 comes around.

I’m good with that. We will hit and miss from time to time but I do think when he does hit it will a big hit.

 

[Crow]

I’m good with that. We will hit and miss from time to time but I do think when he does hit it will a big hit.

Maybe now we have a coaching staff capable of putting these kids in a position to hit.

 

[Handicapper General]

Spyguy likes to swing for the dances

throw em to the wolves.

 

[Sleet]

After seeing this draft I’m not so sure Thornton was a “Pete guy” I kinda think Spyguy likes to swing for the dances in the 4th

I liked it. Not sure what it means. But I liked it.

 

[alteredst8]

I liked it. Not sure what it means. But I liked it.

 

[Crow]

On second thought, yeah. He's definitely a bust.

 

[raiderfreak7]

Bech gonna make DBs his bitch.

 

[Birdwell]

He got his redshirt season to learn. Now’s the time to step up or get lapped.

Red-shirt? Fucking stinky Pete shirt.

I'm all about giving our rooks from last year a chance this year to step up and prove it was the coaches, not the players, causing the issues. If they fail now, it's all on them.

The only rookie who had an issue we could see last season was Thornton. Coming out of young Lance's O the kid had no serious route running or other basic WR skills. But the damned HC forced him into the lineup and he posted numbers week 1. Tape was there, and was it.

Other than Jeanty, no other rookie was given a shot. Porter played like a rookie with promise, but Kyu-Blue Kelly got the starts. Hemingway and Pegues looked decent but weren't even active until well after the season was effectively over. Same for Grant and Rogers.

Wonder whether which rook played last year tracked a divide between SpyGuy and Pete? Jeanty (1st) and Porter (3rd) played. Bech (2nd), Grant (comp 3rd) and Thornton (4th) hardly played. Rogers (comp 3rd) got on the field. IDK if that was out of necessity or if Pete liked him.

The HC knew Thornton from before Tennessee (Oregon?) and liked him as a downfield blocker.

Porter only played when Kelly and his three interception could not.

The unlamented EX-HC did not play any other rookies because even after being eliminated from the playoffs useless vets "give us the best chance to win."

 

[alteredst8]

Red-shirt? Fucking stinky Pete shirt.



The only rookie who had an issue we could see last season was Thornton. Coming out of young Lance's O the kid had no serious route running or other basic WR skills. But the damned HC forced him into the lineup and he posted numbers week 1. Tape was there, and was it.


The HC knew Thornton from before Tennessee (Oregon?) and liked him as a downfield blocker.

That Josh Heupel Tennessee offense does no favors for their WR’s going to the next level.
Don’t they just do that half field read shit.

 

[PDX Raider]

Red-shirt? Fucking stinky Pete shirt.



The only rookie who had an issue we could see last season was Thornton. Coming out of young Lance's O the kid had no serious route running or other basic WR skills. But the damned HC forced him into the lineup and he posted numbers week 1. Tape was there, and was it.

Other than Jeanty, no other rookie was given a shot. Porter played like a rookie with promise, but Kyu-Blue Kelly got the starts. Hemingway and Pegues looked decent but weren't even active until well after the season was effectively over. Same for Grant and Rogers.



The HC knew Thornton from before Tennessee (Oregon?) and liked him as a downfield blocker.

Porter only played when Kelly and his three interception could not.

The unlamented EX-HC did not play any other rookies because even after being eliminated from the playoffs useless vets "give us the best chance to win."

I think we'll know much more about all these guys this year. The offense will be schematically better. Hopefully, some of them will show something. It would be nice if Bech, for example turns into the main possession type WR for FM, or Grant can turn into a solid long term tackle.

 

[Crow]

Matt Harmon
@MattHarmon_BYB
The Jack Bech film was much better than the production and the lack of snaps would indicate. If a new Raiders coaching staff can find the right role for him, there's a useful player in there waiting for them.

New video on the channel👇

 

[Desert Rat]

Matt Harmon
@MattHarmon_BYB
The Jack Bech film was much better than the production and the lack of snaps would indicate. If a new Raiders coaching staff can find the right role for him, there's a useful player in there waiting for them.

New video on the channel👇

 

[Madturk]

Matt Harmon
@MattHarmon_BYB
The Jack Bech film was much better than the production and the lack of snaps would indicate. If a new Raiders coaching staff can find the right role for him, there's a useful player in there waiting for them.

New video on the channel👇

Fair analysis. Harmon is pretty much a receiver guru. From what he said, didn't sound like last year's staff really wanted Bech and wanted to force feed Thornton in there who obviously wasn't ready. Also wasn't aware that they used Bech a lot in the X role which is not where he needs to play because he obviously lacks the vertical speed. Just another example of how horrible Pete and Co. really were with managing this roster.

I agree with Harmon that Bech is not going to be a big volume guy but can carve out a role as a possession guy and get you 40-50 catches which is not asking a lot from a second rounder.

 

[Crow]

Fair analysis. Harmon is pretty much a receiver guru. From what he said, didn't sound like last year's staff really wanted Bech and wanted to force feed Thornton in there who obviously wasn't ready. Also wasn't aware that they used Bech a lot in the X role which is not where he needs to play because he obviously lacks the vertical speed. Just another example of how horrible Pete and Co. really were with managing this roster.

I agree with Harmon that Bech is not going to be a big volume guy but can carve out a role as a possession guy and get you 40-50 catches which is not asking a lot from a second rounder.

Give him that Marques Colston big slot role and let him cook.


...if he earns it.

 

[007]

He’s gonna bust out for sure this year.

Our own Colston/Puka/Kupp hybrid in the slot.