Welcome to the team - GM John Spytek

alteredst8 said:
You put way too much value on the consensus mock drafts. Unfortunately we will rarely get any insight into the person the player is. That seems to be a huge thing with Pete and SpyGate.
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I put zero value on consensus mock drafts. You’re disparaging Arif’s work. And misunderstanding it. Mocks try to fit talent to team needs.

Arif separately compiles final big boards the week of the draft—(1) forecasters like Jeremiah and McShay who build then adjust their boards based on what they here and (2) evaluators like Bugler who base their boards on what they see on tape with (or without) feedback from coaches and prospects. Arif then combines and weights those two boards using advanced math for (3) a consensus ranking and publishes all three.

Arif’s board has outpaced all but each year’s best prognostications. It is not just that individual forecasters and evaluators have good and bad years, they just aren’t that good—miss too often, for example, like Kiper on Sanders. GM/HC have proven consistently better at spotting talent, even as bad as the Raiders’ GM/HC have been.

In addition, when Arif’s board is off, history has shown that (a) reaches more than likely bust and (b) value is good but often exaggerated. It is better to stay out of the deep red than be in the green. Each pick being near or above consensus is where you want to be.

Arif’s board has proven to be a terrific tool or baseline for judging value and comparing drafts between teams. It is far better than post-draft, subjective grading based on individual opinions (draftnicks act like they were right and the GM is wrong) that are normally biased (higher grades for teams they like).

As for individual insight into players by teams and how much individual GM/HC weight them, forecasters try to and evaluators like Bugler incorporate some of that, but never as much as any GM/HC, if at all. That is where judging value and opining as to why a GM/HC passed on a prospect or reached for one based on a proven objective big board comes in.
 
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DonkeyKilla said:
I would have picked Jeanty in my Lil Al but I got convinced he was going to Jax.
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I held off on the Jags rumors, though I believed them, mostly b/c I was being stubborn. The brigade of well-connected draftnicks all changing their mocks to Banks the night before the draft activated me. Lol
 
Sleet said:
I held off on the Jags rumors, though I believed them, mostly b/c I was being stubborn. The brigade of well-connected draftnicks all changing their mocks to Banks the night before the draft activated me. Lol
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I think the draftniks (and there is a herd mentality with them) thought Jeanty might be gone by 6- either with Jags taking him or some team jumping us. If he was gone, my guess is OT would've been picked (with Banks maybe being the one). But Jeanty was there and that was that.
 
Giving high complements to spy... as in he may be the best gm we have had. We've had some strong drafts and draft picks... I don't think we've had this level of draft manipulation. Be it all the different smoke before. The trade downs. The identifying players that fit. Im extremely happy with how things have gone.

If we come away with Ramsey and a solid day 3 - I'll be extremely happy.
 
007 said:
Fuckin chill bro. None of these guys have played a fuckin game lmfao.
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He looks sharp in his Aviator sunglasses. Let's see if he can fly the damn plane.
 
He’s not making WTF picks through two days at least, that’s a plus in my book.

And in Lang’s defense, his predecessors fucking sucked so saying he’s the best GM we’ve had is like saying you have the biggest micro penis of all-time.
 
I don't think Spytek has much say in what's going on and I don't care as long as it works.

I do see a plan to it though and a player type. The o-lineman are all athletic and can get to the second level.

All these dudes are physical and high character guys. Not the bullshit lip service thank god every interview BS but actually solid unselfish team guys and it's going to be easy to root for them.

I might have to change my opinion of the Pete hire, we will see.
 
Seems like this draft was to get guys who can play now but potentially replace starters down the line. Grant may be LT of future, and Rogers may be our starting guard sooner rather than later. And Bech probably means no jacoby extension if he pans out.
 
PDX Raider said:
Seems like this draft was to get guys who can play now but potentially replace starters down the line. Grant may be LT of future, and Rogers may be our starting guard sooner rather than later. And Bech probably means no jacoby extension if he pans out.
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It would be frustrating not to extend Meyers. Make the kid prove himself before running off Meyers, who has earned an extension. Still hope Spyguy extends both Miller and Meyers.
 
Sleet said:
It would be frustrating not to extend Meyers. Make the kid prove himself before running off Meyers, who has earned an extension. Still hope Spyguy extends both Miller and Meyers.
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i think both are in the cards. maybe just closer to start of season
 
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