Welcome to the team - Gardner Minshew

Insurance in case we can’t draft a guy.


One has a nine game history the other probably closer to 60.
37 starts and 46 appearances in 5 years.

While the chances that Y6 Minshew blossoming like Y13 Gannon are slim, he’s easy to root for and I’m rooting for him.
 
This only makes sense only if Minshew plays better than he has historically. If not, and O’Connell earns his higher spot on the depth chart, you’d demote O’Connell? Is that b/c you like his stash better?

We both hope Telescope drafts a 1st round QB. But that does not mean the rookie is going to play better than O’Connell let alone Minshew W1.

Minshew wakes up each day better than the chubby statue. As far as our rookie QB...I don't want him to set foot on the field for the year. I expect whomever we draft to need work on getting better without the pressure is trying to save a franchise.
 
So, Lawrence is a bust? A back-up level QB? Hmmm
  • Minshew (2753 snaps): 6.4% SIS; 65.6 PFF
  • Lawrence (3221 snaps): 7.2% SIS; 72.2 PFF
Apparently, there is more to the story, but . . .
 
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So, Trever Lawrence is a bust? A back-up level QB?


I wouldn’t want to be the GM that has to give him that big second contract.

Plus guys like Minchew are more motivated and have way better value.

From both those perspectives, I’d say Lawrence is kind of headed towards a bust.
 
I wouldn’t want to be the GM that has to give him that big second contract.

Plus guys like Minchew are more motivated and have way better value.

From both those perspectives, I’d say Lawrence is kind of headed towards a bust.

I don't watch any Jaguar games but the few games I watched with him in it, I didn't find anything special about him.
 
I wouldn’t want to be the GM that has to give him that big second contract.

Plus guys like Minchew are more motivated and have way better value.

From both those perspectives, I’d say Lawrence is kind of headed towards a bust.

I don't watch any Jaguar games but the few games I watched with him in it, I didn't find anything special about him.
I spent plenty of time watching the Jags the past few years. He’s a prime example of not supporting your QB with quality weapons.
 
I spent plenty of time watching the Jags the past few years. He’s a prime example of not supporting your QB with quality weapons.
Zay and Kirk do not like this post. Lol
 
Zay and Kirk do not like this post. Lol
They also had Ridley last year. Travis Etiene is solid RB but often hurt.

If Lawrence wasn’t playing hurt the last QTR of the season they would have made the playoffs I think.

They really need an alpha dog WR IMO.
 
you're posting something that includes rookie numbers for a QB, sir.
Yes, I am aware of that. Tracking the tweet . . . but it felt dirty. Also recognize that Minshew’s best year and Lawrence’s worst year were their rookie seasons. So that tweet would be utterly embarrassing without rookie years. Lol
 
Yes, I am aware of that. Tracking the tweet . . . but it felt dirty. Also recognize that Minshew’s best year and Lawrence’s worst year were their rookie seasons. So that tweet would be utterly embarrassing without rookie years. Lol
Indeed, which is likely the case.
 
As a general rule I think you can tell what a player's ceiling is going to be pretty quickly, and regardless of the surrounding circumstances. Better support might give the Jags a better ceiling as a team but it's not going to make Lawrence a top tier QB IMO. He's cheap now so it's fine but I think there is a conversation to be had when it comes time to extend.
 
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Indeed, which is likely the case.
Comparing them as vets the spread in SIS% and PFF grade significantly increases:
  • Minshew (1847): 7.1% SIS; 63.2 PFF
  • Lawrence (2143): 8.6% SIS; 78.5 PFF
Comparing their raw stats is not as bad:
  • TDs: Minshew (38) Lawrence (46)
  • Ints: Minshew (18) Lawrence (22)
  • QB Rating: Minshew (89.9) Lawrence (91.6)
  • Attempts: Minshew (953) Lawrence (1148)
  • Games: Minshew (32) Lawrence (33)
Throwing out rookie seasons matters.

If Minshew’s ever going to play better than his rookie year per PFF, now’s the time to build on last year’s production with better individual play.
 
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Lawrence was looking really good by the end of 2022. 2023 was a downer but he was playing hurt for a large part of it. Gonna be interesting to see what happens in 24.
 
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