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Minnesota had something to do with the Cowboys success also. Their stupidity in the trade for Herschel Walker built the Cowboys roster. Jimmy just happened to draft the right players with the picks he got from Minny.
Jimmy was going to win no matter where he went.
 
The Cowboys went 1-15 in 89, traded their best player mid-season, and made no effort to win any of those games that season. One of the greatest tank jobs of all time, and that season set them up to be the team of the decade for the 90’s.

Tanking was the easy part. What made the tank successful was them dominating the draft for a couple seasons right after the tank. That’s the difference. It’s what you do right after the tank that makes your tank worth it.

I don’t care about the odds. I’m more interested in what made their tank so successful. It wasn’t the picks. It was the guy making the picks (more Jimmy Johnson than Jerry Jones imo).

That’s the real problem. There’s no point in tanking and acquiring all that draft capital if you’re not bringing in super successful college coaches like JJohnson or PCarroll (who studied all these guys since high school) to capitalize on it.


That wasn't a tank. Jerrah famously predicted Jimmy would have a better record his first season than Landry after he fired him. It did not go well. The Cowboys were a horrible team, which is why they finally bottomed out at 3-13 under Landry after years of holding it together after their dynasty years. There was nothing intentional about it. The Hershel Walker trade was just the dumbest trade of all time that set them up to fix it quickly.

As far as Gruden being the wrong guy to build it, we knew that. Sad we had to watch the train wreck play out in real time despite his track record in trying to build a roster.
 
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Jimmy was going to win no matter where he went.


I don't know if they win a Super Bowl without that trade allowing him to stack the roster. Jimmy and Jerry hated each other, and that would have probably ended it before they got there had they not had double the picks everyone else had to pick all of the college players he knew inside out like others have said. On a normal trajectory back then without FA, it would have taken until 1994/1995 to get that team up and running from the smoldering ashes it was. I remember saying that when they lost in the 1992 playoffs that they were way ahead of schedule because of that trade, and then they won it all the next two years. Teams like the Giants, Bears, etc. who built up to championship teams took like four or five years to do what they did in two.
 
Washington ain’t trading that pick unless they think none of those QBs are worth the pick.
They need a QB. So if they trade out they’re either stupid or don’t value the QBs that will be available at #2.


People said this a year ago, and the first and third pick got traded. You have no idea what Peters is prioritizing in rebuilding that team. A QB isn't going to fix that shit and certainly not any of these guys. If you think the guy has the temperament to survive a shitty roster as you build it, you pull that trigger, but how many dudes really are built for that? I can name four or five on one hand since I've been watching football, and I don't think any of these guys in this draft are that guy, even Daniels as much as I like him.
 
I don't know if they win a Super Bowl without that trade allowing him to stack the roster. Jimmy and Jerry hated each other, and that would have probably ended it before they got there had they not had double the picks everyone else had to pick all of the college players he knew inside out like others have said. On a normal trajectory back then without FA, it would have taken until 1994/1995 to get that team up and running from the smoldering ashes it was. I remember saying that when they lost in the 1992 playoffs that they were way ahead of schedule because of that trade, and then they won it all the next two years. Teams like the Giants, Bears, etc. who built up to championship teams took like four or five years to do what they did in two.
I’m just talking as a coach. He could have probably gone anywhere and won he was just that kind of coach. Yea he built a perfect team in Dallas but, I’m confident he would have been able to build that in most places as well given the leeway to do so. Never a great X’s and O’s guy. He just understood people and players better than others.
 
Jack Jones is a cool cat, and his humility is honorable.

I get the feeling -- and I may be dead before it happens, AP will introduce Jack Jones to Canton.
Jack Jones is a muthafucking dawg. He’s what the Raiders been missing for the last 20 years…
 
People said this a year ago, and the first and third pick got traded. You have no idea what Peters is prioritizing in rebuilding that team. A QB isn't going to fix that shit and certainly not any of these guys. If you think the guy has the temperament to survive a shitty roster as you build it, you pull that trigger, but how many dudes really are built for that? I can name four or five on one hand since I've been watching football, and I don't think any of these guys in this draft are that guy, even Daniels as much as I like him.
Who knows what these QBs rated at the top are going to become. However, I do not think any of them are worth picks 1 through10. I certainly would not trade up by giving away a boat load of picks to land any of these QBs.
As far as the Raiders are concerned I want them to build the O line and Defense.
Build a bully as AP alludes to.
Grab a QB in round 2 or later if you like one.
 
Who knows what these QBs rated at the top are going to become. However, I do not think any of them are worth picks 1 through10. I certainly would not trade up by giving away a boat load of picks to land any of these QBs.
As far as the Raiders are concerned I want them to build the O line and Defense.
Build a bully as AP alludes to.
Grab a QB in round 2 or later if you like one.

Who exactly is this quarterbackless bully you’re so infatuated with emulating?
 

I’m not sure that’s it’s not actually more difficult to put something together like they have, let alone keep it together long enough to win. And even then, they still had to get the right fit at QB.
 
I’m not sure that’s it’s not actually more difficult to put something together like they have, let alone keep it together long enough to win. And even then, they still had to get the right fit at QB.
They made Jimmy G work to a certain degree. It just shows how inept Lance was as a QB IMO. I think they could have thrown DC into their system and had the same results.
 
They made Jimmy G work to a certain degree. It just shows how inept Lance was as a QB IMO. I think they could have thrown DC into their system and had the same results.

Yeah but look at how many players they had to hit on to make it work, let alone the right HC. That’s what I’m saying is more difficult to put together and maintain. The Titans did it for a year or two before things fell apart. Just easier said than done IMO.
 
Pierce knows exactly how long he has to show progress. If this team regresses to say 7 wins next season Pierce is immediately on the hot seat — and he knows it.

The team got a bounce when Pierce was put into the interim slot. That’s not uncommon. Can he continue the magic?
 
"He was serviceable." - @Langlier
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Pierce knows exactly how long he has to show progress. If this team regresses to say 7 wins next season Pierce is immediately on the hot seat — and he knows it.

The team got a bounce when Pierce was put into the interim slot. That’s not uncommon. Can he continue the magic?

9+ wins: extension
5-8 wins: hot seat
4 or fewer: fired
 
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