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I don't care that we are in first place... its hollow being .500 and in first place... I do care about winning our first game in the division (in years)... And shutting these fricking lame ass charger fans up... LT... you're gonna cry man. And cry hard. Norv Turner... We'll expose you for the joke you are. I never hated the Chargeless... I have however become very annoyed with them... Its time to get some swagger back... and Norv, you are the target my friend... I don't want this game to be close. I want it to be dominated from beginning to end. I want every Charger fan to feel like crying by the end of it. I WANT IN AND I WANT IN NOW!

I'M IN BABY!
 
Chargers are still tough to figure out from a how they will perform standpoint. Lets hope Kiffin has really been getting all he can out of the film of them and finding ways to keep their blitzes from getting to us.


LT usually has monster games against us. I think our offense will be our best defense. Long strong drives with a couple thee and outs by SD would help.
 
If we can win this game, we have a legit shot at the division (Due to lackluster teams across the board)

I put the chances of us winning this game around 1 in 5 though.

SD has owned us more than any team in the division for about 5 years.
 
Here are some interesting stats from our previous opponents:

MIAMI:
- Held the Texans to 74 yards rushing on 28 attempts (2.6 ypc), but Z.Thomas did play.
- R.Brown: 23-114 (5.0 ypc)


CLEVELAND:
- Not counting a couple end-arounds, they did decent against the Pats RB by committee... 124 yards on 30 carries (4.1 ypc)


BRONCOS:
- They held Tomlinson to 21-67 (3.2 ypc)
- Even though they got raped by Turner... take away the two big breakdowns on his 74 yard run and his 49 yard run... and they held him to 8-24 (3.0 ypc)


.... After today, I'm really starting to think our running game is legit. That said, I still think this is the week we absolutely have to take the training wheels off and stretch the field..... This is probably the first time in about 4 years where I'm really looking forward to a meaningful game..... in October. Can't freakin' wait!


Here's the quote of the day:

"I knew this system was predicated to having a great running game, and it's working, we're hitting our stride," said Dominic Rhodes, who joins the club off suspension just in time to take the place of the injured LaMont Jordan. "Once that second half hits after the D-linemen have been getting cut all game long, they don't want to make tackles anymore."

http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_7110664?source=most_viewed
 
2nd quarter analysis...

@SD - This is a team that got a big confidense boost today... but they are still a very average team. merriman has been "figured out". Noone in the secondary is scary. Other then the front 3 the entire D is very suspect... Phillip Rivers is crashing hard right now... Gates is still a beast and Tomlinson can still be a killer... but other then Vincent Jackson (who is not a great replacement for McCardell) they dont have a WR worth a damn... and an overrated OL. We can grind it out and expose a weak interior (outside of Jamal Williams) and if we can force them into long passing situations this is our game to win.

KC @ Oak - Time to drum a bad team... Brodie Croyle??? are you kidding me??? we will eat them alive offensively... and defensively.

Oak @ Ten - The Amazing Vince Young... and company. Haynesworth is a beast... however the secondary and most of the LB core... not so much. This entire game is about rattling Vince Young. Get to him and get to him hard.

Hou @ Oak - The Texans have gotten a shot of adrenaline with Shaub at QB... Could be the toughest game of the next 4... but its in the black hole... and if we rattle off 3 victories before this... we'll be showing confidense. They play in a tougher division and will have been knocked around a bit more. We need to have Aso glue himself to Andre Johnson and not let any ground game get going. On O we just need to run at a suspect Run D. Danny Clark may get some revenge up the middle but by this time we need to be working every area with the run.
 
Agreed on Merriman... Take away the roids and suddenly guys like him and Peppers come back to the pack. Still good players... but not quite Lawrence Taylor.
 
One of the reasons I wanted Denver to beat San Diego was that Denver now faces a pretty brutal stretch now where they play Pitt, Green Bay, @ KC, @ Chicago with Detroit and Tennessee mixed in... There was a good chance they were going to drop back to the pack no matter what...

In contrast, SD has us, Houston and Minny, which on paper gives them a great chance to put together a 4 game win streak and enter their Indy, Baltimore, Jax stretch briming with self confidence.... They lose today to Denver and maybe they continue to infight and start pulling at some threads that shouldn't be pulled on... Mostly, I was hoping that they'd implode and AJ Smith was subsequentionly cut loose by ownership for his arrogant handling of the team this offseason, because I really believe he's put together probably the most talented roster in the NFL and drafts about as well as anyone....

Anyway, onwards and upwards... Clearly I'm not as confident about this game as others are...

I don't know if it's a good sign or a bad sign that the Rat and I were on the same wave length as to how to attack the SD defense... I like that he spread out the defense by going 3 and 4 wide and using a ball control passing game... If they don't shoot themselves in the foot with turnovers in the redzone at the end of some of those drives, it may have been a different game... As it was, at least they moved the ball and controlled the pass rush as I don't recall Cutler getting sacked, though for whatever lame reason, the Bolts are using Merriman and Phillips in coverage certainly more than I would... I'm thinking I'd come out using primarily the shotgun and take advantage of Rhodes experience running and catching the ball out of spread formations.... If it were me, I'd line Higgins (for lack of a better speedster) up in the slot on the first play and throw a deep post to him just to make the safeties play honest...


Defensively, I have no answers... Unfortunately IMO our weaknesses play right to the Bolt's strengths... They have the kind of patient RB's that tend to take advantage of our D's propensity to overpersue gaps, and they attack the post with Gates and Jackson.... This is one game that I'd almost rather play a lot of man off and zone coverages to keep containment and to be less susceptable to those screen passes Norv likes so much... Burgess playing like Burgess would help a lot because Olivea was having a real tough time with Dumerville when they matched up...

But hey, if we can do something to take the crowd out of it early and stop the Bolts from building on the momentum of todays game.......
 
One of the reasons I wanted Denver to beat San Diego was that Denver now faces a pretty brutal stretch now where they play Pitt, Green Bay, @ KC, @ Chicago with Detroit and Tennessee mixed in... There was a good chance they were going to drop back to the pack no matter what...

In contrast, SD has us, Houston and Minny, which on paper gives them a great chance to put together a 4 game win streak and enter their Indy, Baltimore, Jax stretch briming with self confidence.... They lose today to Denver and maybe they continue to infight and start pulling at some threads that shouldn't be pulled on... Mostly, I was hoping that they'd implode and AJ Smith was subsequentionly cut loose by ownership for his arrogant handling of the team this offseason, because I really believe he's put together probably the most talented roster in the NFL and drafts about as well as anyone....

Anyway, onwards and upwards... Clearly I'm not as confident about this game as others are...

I don't know if it's a good sign or a bad sign that the Rat and I were on the same wave length as to how to attack the SD defense... I like that he spread out the defense by going 3 and 4 wide and using a ball control passing game... If they don't shoot themselves in the foot with turnovers in the redzone at the end of some of those drives, it may have been a different game... As it was, at least they moved the ball and controlled the pass rush as I don't recall Cutler getting sacked, though for whatever lame reason, the Bolts are using Merriman and Phillips in coverage certainly more than I would... I'm thinking I'd come out using primarily the shotgun and take advantage of Rhodes experience running and catching the ball out of spread formations.... If it were me, I'd line Higgins (for lack of a better speedster) up in the slot on the first play and throw a deep post to him just to make the safeties play honest...


Defensively, I have no answers... Unfortunately IMO our weaknesses play right to the Bolt's strengths... They have the kind of patient RB's that tend to take advantage of our D's propensity to overpersue gaps, and they attack the post with Gates and Jackson.... This is one game that I'd almost rather play a lot of man off and zone coverages to keep containment and to be less susceptable to those screen passes Norv likes so much... Burgess playing like Burgess would help a lot because Olivea was having a real tough time with Dumerville when they matched up...

But hey, if we can do something to take the crowd out of it early and stop the Bolts from building on the momentum of todays game.......

HIT PLAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXj7I1RzLSE
 
I agree with h'boy that we don't match up particularly well v. SD.
We match up a lot better v. both KC and Dungver, IMO.

*Side note -- I see us doing to KC just about exactly what J'ville did to them.
Run, run ... pick, peck ... run run run .... pick, peck, .... SCORE!!
We're seriously going to raise the pimp hand HIGH on KC, and I might even wet myself watching that game.

Now back to your regularly scheduled program ......

I also don't care for the fact that the Chargers 'found their footing' this week.

It's going to have to be a good mix of run and pass for our offense, and our defense has to hold up well enough to limit the Chargers to FGs and not TDs.
Special teams have to be solid, and we can't turn the ball over -- that goes without saying though.

I believe Oakland has more heart, will, and togetherness at this time than SD does and that might be enough to lift us to a close road win.

Fingers crossed.
 
Whether Dungver beat them or not, IMO the road to the AFC west title goes through SD. So might as well see how good Kiffin's game planning really is. For the past two years we've been a "explosive on paper" team with not even close results. Being explosive on paper means nothing if you can out coach your opponent. Lets see if Kiffin and Co. can out coach Norval and Co. the way other coaches out coached Norval when he was here.
 
I was on the other side of the fence, I wasnt looking forward to facing a wounded dog backed in a corner if they had lost in Denver

We can certainly run the ball. Alot better than any team they've faced besides the Pats

If you look at the Chargers stats.. They've been getting it up the ass through the air. Hell, Huard almost threw for 300 yards.. Favre etc.. all had good games against them

Considering Favre's big numbers this year shows 80% of his passing numbers are coming off passes less than 10 yards..

Appears to be alot of swing passes, short slant type passes.

I havent seen any Charger games but it appears to me that pass the LB's.. they are pretty slow and getting beat around the corners

Altough we are tops in the NFL running......

I'm not so sure I try and jam it down their throats running it...

Hit 'em where it hurts....

Through the air
 
Before the season started, any poster declaring the week 6 SD match-up as an opportunity for the Chargers to wrest 1st place from the Raiders, would have been widely ridiculed. But seeing as that is the case, I will just take a moment and enjoy the rarified air of 1st place. It's been a while.
Nice.
That said, SD at home scares the hell out of me. On paper they are vastly better than the Raiders, though certain match-ups favor the S&B (SD DB's are weak, the coaching is bad, D-Line calls are ?able leading to gaps and blown assignments). It is more than just the play on the field, that I want to discuss. They've had our # for a long time. This game is huge to both teams and I wonder about the newfound success and optimism of the Raiders vs. the we-know-how-to-win mentality of the Chargers. On their turf. If we get beat down ala Denver, I'm concerned for the whole rest of the season. The Raider psyche is improving but not yet strong and i wonder how the team would take the inevitable "Cleveland and Miami wins mean nothing because they suck and the good teams still kick the crap out of the Raiders" media bashing which would follow. Likewise, if they could win, the subsequent praise could even be worse if the team believes they are that much better and that the fall of the AFC West doesn't have a lot to do with it as well.
It will be a real testament to KK's influence. He has two weeks and we'll be healthy and well prepared, of this I have no doubt. But there's no excuses either. We're healthy and had two weeks - so this should be the best we can be, right? And of course, every player, coach and locker room assistant in Alameda knows this and feels this more than I do. So we could come out tight and force things - trying too hard.
I'm a poker player and you play the person across from you and position more than the cards. I like the hand we have but i am very concerned about the other two.
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PS - the line opened at Raiders +11.5 (but has gone down to 100
and anyone still want Leinert?
 
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Monday A.M. update
Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Monday at 11:57 am

LaMont Jordan and Josh McCown were not present as the Raiders went through warmups and drills preceeding their actual practice.

Linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba was in pads and joining in his first practice of the season after spending last week working with injured players.

Also returning was fullback Oren O'Neal, who was inactive against Cleveland and Miami after sustaining a pulled hamstring against Denver.

Defensive end Derrick Burgess, who rejoined his teammates on the practice field during the bye week, was on the field again Monday.

The new face on the practice field, wearing No. 92, was Mkristo Bruce (6-foot-6, 268 pounds) who was signed to the practice squad. Bruce, a Washington State product, was last with the Miami Dolphins.

The Raiders cut wide receiver Rich Parson from the practice squad last week.

Mkistro Ran a 40 in 5.00 and was a finalist for the Ted Hendricks award last year. Sack machine at Washington State. I think he's Nnamdi's cousin as well.
 
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Front-running Raiders

ALAMEDA – The AFC West leaders are back at work.

The Raiders, like my beloved Cal football team, moved up in the standings by having the weekend off and watching everyone else lose.

Now it’s time to see if the Raiders can actually win a game in the division when the Raiders play San Diego this weekend.

The only players missing from practice were LaMont Jordan and Josh McCown.

Jordan’s back injury will probably keep him down for a few more days and make him a gametime decision. That’s just speculation on my part, based on Jordan’s back being a recurring problem. But that’s more than you’ll probably get from Lane Kiffin later today.

Unless McCown (fractured toe) found a miracle healing balm over the weekend, I can’t see him playing against the Chargers.

*The NFL trading deadline is Oct. 16. McCown’s health will dictate if Andrew Walter is dealt by then.

Carolina and Arizona are two teams in need of another quarterback and Walter is need of a team that wants him.

*For the music lovers out there, the Raiders played some rock music that was unfamiliar to me during stretching. Daunte Culpepper was digging it and Dominic Rhodes had the “totally dude” head nod going.

I was able to catch on when the music switched up to Nas and Lauryn Hill’s “If I Ruled the World.”

I guess the Raiders rule their AFC West world for now. But the bigger question is this: Is a new Lauryn Hill CD ever going to come out?
 
Their head coach is still Norv so anythings possible - kick the shit out of LT & keep it close
till 4th quarter.
The Pole to kick winning field goal
 
I'm on the "waking the sleeping dog" side of the fence. If there's a game that the usually stoic Norval Turner will be up for, it's this one.

I'm really not that worried about our offense (unless McCown starts) as I think we will be able to move the ball and Kiff has had an extra week to prepare for this one. Denver has looked like dogshit, especially their run defense, and are two last second fg's from being 0-5. I don't think yesterday's game was a good barometer. That may not be the last time they get blownout this year.

I am worried about the defense though. I'd like to see Rob Ryan blueprint last year's effort in SD but I'm just not feeling it. We really did a good job in handcuffing and disrupting Rivers for most of the game last season and held LT in check up until the 4th Q. The guy just has our number. Having Burgess back is huge, just hoping he's near 100%.

It will be nice to get the "ofer" division monkey off our back but it will probably have to wait for the KC game. I'll still take 2-3 at this juncture after our 0-2 start.
 
The new face on the practice field, wearing No. 92, was Mkristo Bruce (6-foot-6, 268 pounds) who was signed to the practice squad. Bruce, a Washington State product, was last with the Miami Dolphins.

Mkistro Ran a 40 in 5.00 and was a finalist for the Ted Hendricks award last year. Sack machine at Washington State. I think he's Nnamdi's cousin as well.

I would like my Little Al recalculated with Bruce included!!!

I liked the guy coming out, and pimped him all last year... (I belive RNat liked him, and had him in the Little Al?)

Nice pickup.
 
From SI.COM: Positives: Hard-working leader of the Washington State defense with marginal upside for the next level. Quick off the snap, plays with good lean and exploits immobile blockers. Works his hands to get off blocks, quickly alters his angle of attack and makes plays.

Negatives: Possesses only a short-area burst of speed, which he cannot sustain. Easily knocked from his angle of attack, cannot get off blocks and controlled at the point by opponents.

Analysis: Productive collegiate player, Bruce has potential as a two-gap defensive lineman once he physically matures. Practice-squad material with the attitude necessary to make it.
 
i predicted in some other thread that he'd be immediate PS material... I AM Lil' Al
 
I'm just happy that going into week 6 of the NFL season, we're not in the toilet. Anything else from here on out is icing on the cake this season.

BEAT SAN DIEGO!
 
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