Training Camp...

not exactly Haiku

Pfftt... The Jiuba will be starting this time next year...

Ekejiuba
Ekejiuba
Rah Rah Rah
Ekejiuba
Ekejiuba
Rah Rah Rah

Seeing as the Hawaiian alphabet has neither the 'J' or the 'B' it was the best I could do.

PS - Mad props to me cheerleading sister at El Cajon Valley High.
 
I've read that description of our LB's before (no dig) and I still can't understand that comment that Morrison is "smallish" at 6-2 240. By those standards Zach Thomas is micro-sized at 5-11 230 soaking wet with a couple bricks in his pockets. He does pretty well. Ray Lewis is 6-1 250 but most people admit he's got freakish talent for a guy his size. If Morrison was getting trucked at the point I could understand bringing it up. He's not.

Our backers are fast "but not big enough and strong enough." Dude! Howard is 6-3 240. That's considered large for a Will backer in the 4-3. Williams is also considered large for a 4-3 Sam. Morrison might be 5-10 lbs shy of a traditional 4-3 MLB, but I'll take the loss of weight to gain the mobility a tradtional Mike doesn't have, especially since we aren't giving up anything at the point.
 
The Hawaiian pimps his dark horse yet again. Do you really think he'll take the spot, our is he another K.D. Williams waiting to happen?
 
Seven new coaches, seven new approaches as NFL camps open


Friday, July 20, 2007


When Terrell Owens was asked this spring about the Dallas Cowboys' coaching change — Bill Parcells out, Wade Phillips in — he was his usual outspoken self.

"I don't think you have to be a disciplinarian to get your point across," Owens said in a pointed dig at his old coach. "I think having a new head coach is good for everybody."

Yes, T.O. is ingratiating himself with the new guy. So are the rest of the Cowboys and almost 500 players on the rosters of six other teams that open camp in the next 10 days with new head coaches. The only difference is, at some point, there will be a brouhaha involving Owens and a coach, either the laid-back Phillips or one of his assistants.

Every season, new coaches mean changes for every player on the teams they take over. There are seven this year, three of whom take over contenders: Phillips, Mike Tomlin for the retired Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh, and Norv Turner in San Diego. The other four are more problematical, with Ken Whisenhunt in Arizona, Lane Kiffin in Oakland, Bobby Petrino in Atlanta and Cam Cameron in Miami.

Turner will be taking over a team that has basically the same offense he used in 2001, when he was offensive coordinator in San Diego. Petrino, known as a passing guru, has a bigger task — he's spent the offseason adjusting his offense to Michael Vick's running ability, but may have to readjust if Vick's indictment for sponsoring a dogfighting operation leads to a suspension.
But in any case, all have to make adjustments, on and off the field.

"New coaches always make dramatic changes, even if it's just in routine, workout regimen and other day-to-day things," says Indianapolis president Bill Polian. "There's always a feeling-out process with both the coach and his staff. It doesn't mean they can't win. It just means a lot of things change."

As camps open, Polian's Colts and New England, who played a memorable AFC title game last January, are considered the league's best teams, along with San Diego in a conference that is clearly superior to the NFC.

But the coaching change could drastically affect the Chargers, whose 14-2 record was the best regular-season mark in the league last season.

Marty Schottenheimer was let go after a playoff loss to the Patriots because he and general manager A.J. Smith were always at odds. And while Schottenheimer traditionally has had problems in the postseason, Turner has had trouble getting there. He is just 58-82-1 in stints as head coach of the Redskins and Raiders, although he really had no chance in Oakland, where he coached in 2004-05.

Turner isn't likely to tinker with San Diego's offense, which he basically installed in LaDainian Tomlinson's rookie season. But other things will change, because both of last year's coordinators are among the new head coaches: Phillips in Dallas and Cameron in Miami, replacing Nick Saban, who departed for the University of Alabama.

Phillips and the Cowboys might have a shot at a title in the NFC, which has no dominant team.

Chicago, which dominated the conference last season before losing to the Colts 29-17 in the Super Bowl, remains a lukewarm favorite. But there are plenty of questions with the Bears, starting with quarterback Rex Grossman, who was able to survive an inconsistent regular season, but demonstrated against Indy that he's not a Super Bowl-caliber quarterback yet.

Can the Cowboys contend? They will have to battle in the NFC East with Philadelphia and maybe the Giants, although New York seems headed for a season-in-waiting — waiting for coach Tom Coughlin to be fired.

Dallas was eliminated from the playoffs last season in Seattle when Tony Romo, the Cowboys' young quarterback, dropped the snap on what could have been a game-winning field-goal attempt with 1 minute, 19 seconds left. Then Parcells, a disappointing 34-32 in four seasons, stepped down and was replaced by Phillips, 45-35 as a head coach in Buffalo and Denver.

Hiring a retread — Turner was the front-runner at one point — seems to signal that owner/general manager Jerry Jones will have more say in the team's daily operation.

Jones says no, although he told The Associated Press in a recent interview, "I'm always going to have a say in how my team is run." One anomaly is that tough guy Parcells didn't run nearly as many offseason workouts as the more laid-back Phillips, whose 3-4 defense tends to be more aggressive than the same system run by Parcells.

The new coaches also include the two youngest in the league, the 32-year-old Kiffin and Tomlin, 35.

Cowher stepped down after 15 seasons and now moves to the head of the line for any vacancies that open after this season, if he wants to get back into the business. Whisenhunt goes from the Steelers, where he was offensive coordinator, to the historically challenged Cardinals.

Tomlin, just the Steelers' third coach since 1969, has signaled he will run a tough camp for a team that was a disappointing 8-8 a year after winning the Super Bowl. "NFL training camps are not supposed to be pleasant," he says.

That's a bit out of character because he is a protege of the Colts' Tony Dungy and another of Dungy's products, Chicago's Lovie Smith, both of whom try to save their players from early exhaustion.

Kiffin, co-offensive coordinator at powerhouse Southern California, also comes indirectly from the Dungy tree. His father Monte, Tampa Bay's defensive coordinator, served in the same capacity when Dungy coached the Bucs and helped develop the "Tampa Two" defense.

Lane Kiffin began with workouts so tough and physical that the Raiders were forced to forgo their last week of practices for violating a union rule against contact drills.

He also faces what every Oakland coach deals with, the constant scrutiny of owner Al Davis, who at any point could decide that JaMarcus Russell, the first overall pick in the draft, is ready to start at quarterback. Even if Kiffin doesn't think so, Davis always gets his way.

Cameron's arrival in Miami was greeted with relief by players, coaches and staff after Saban's domineering ways. The day Saban's departure became official, Dom Capers, the team's defensive coordinator, was walking around Dolphins headquarters with a big smile, chatting with reporters with whom he'd been forbidden to chat.

"Good to talk to you," he kept saying.

Cameron brought in 37-year-old Trent Green, whom he once coached in Washington, to fill a quarterback position that's been without a top performer since Dan Marino retired after the 1999 season.

"When you're coming in as a new staff and you're putting in a new offense and you know there's somebody out there who has a background in this offense, and somebody you've worked with before, there's an understanding or a comfort level," acknowledged Green, whose acquisition led to the eventual release of Daunte Culpepper, obtained last season in a trade with Minnesota.

Cameron will run the offense. But Capers, a former head coach in Carolina and Houston, is in total charge of the defense after he signed a new three-year, seven-figure contract even before Cameron was hired. Since Marino retired, that unit has carried the team.

cont'd...
 
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Then there's Atlanta, where Petrino, who ran one of college football's best offenses at Louisville, succeeds Jim Mora the younger.

Petrino's mission is to juice up the offense, his specialty, especially the passing game on a team with a running quarterback. Last season, Vick became the first QB to rush for more than 1,000 yards in a season, but Atlanta was last in the NFL with 148.2 yards passing per game and Vick was 20th in passer rating.

Some of that might have been the system and the receivers.

The West Coast offense under Mora and coordinator Greg Knapp seemed ill-suited to Vick's scrambling style, and Atlanta has been bringing in allegedly big-time receivers like Ashley Lelie and Peerless Price who have failed badly.

But the Vick indictment leaves the Falcons in limbo. While the case is unlikely to be resolved in the courts until after the season, Vick could be suspended by commissioner Roger Goodell under the NFL's new personal conduct policy. While that's not on the immediate horizon, there's a precedent: Goodell has already suspended Tennessee's Adam "Pacman" Jones for the season although Jones has yet to be convicted of anything.

If Petrino doesn't have Vick, quarterback becomes a problem. The Falcons traded promising backup Matt Schaub to Houston, making the newly signed Joey Harrington the potential starter.

Whisenhunt inherits an Arizona team that was expected to do more last season, but finished an accustomed 5-11. Edgerrin James, who averaged only 3.4 yards per carry behind an awful offensive line, calls Whisenhunt "super cool." He'll need to be more than that on a team that has talent, including second-year QB Matt Leinart, but always finds ways to lose — its last title was 50 years ago in Chicago.

Whisenhunt brought in Russ Grimm, one of Washington's fabled "Hogs," and the Steelers' ex-offensive line coach, to revamp that unit. It starts with Levi Brown, the fifth overall pick in the draft at left tackle, risky in itself because that's a tough position for any rookie. But at least with Leinart being a left-hander, Brown won't be protecting the quarterback's blind side.

Maybe Whisenhunt and Grimm can finally bring a winning attitude to a losing locker room. There always are atmospheric changes that can make a difference with new coaches.

In Dallas, for example, the players seem much more relaxed after the departure of the autocratic Parcells. Even Jones acknowledges that people at their headquarters were "walking on egg shells" under the Tuna.

At one news conference during a minicamp, cornerback Terence Newman sat down between a couple of reporters and threw out a question that Phillips began answering in a serious way. Then he looked again, finally noticed who had asked it and laughed.

Parcells would have scowled.
 
Do you really think he'll take the spot, our is he another K.D. Williams waiting to happen?


I think he may have more of an upside as an OLB than many think... I like the way he glides when he moves and that he's a collision guy... He basically had no practical experience as a LB when we got him... Once Martindale gets his read and recognition skills up to speed, a guy with that kind of freaky athletic abilities and smarts to match is going to be hard to keep off the field... This is not a Travian Smith trying to get by on only his physical skills IMO...


I'm not in anyway saying he'll be remotlely the same kind of dominant player, but Ek physically reminds me of Seth Joyner as far as build and the way he moves... which is weird because Thomas Howard reminds me of William Thomas...

Maybe I'm just trying to wish us a couple of quick, athletic OLB's with coverage range like that, or maybe I'm just trying to wish us into the early 90's Philly Gang Green defense ... We have Ek as Joyner, Howard as Willie T, Morrison as Byron Evans, Darius as Andre Waters, Huff as Wes Hopkins, Nnamdi as Eric Allen... but sadly, even with my offseason optimism redlining, even I am NOT delusional enough to turn our DL guys into Reggie White, Clyde Simmons and Jerome Brown...:p
 
I think he may have more of an upside as an OLB than many think... I like the way he glides when he moves and that he's a collision guy... He basically had no practical experience as a LB when we got him... Once Martindale gets his read and recognition skills up to speed, a guy with that kind of freaky athletic abilities and smarts to match is going to be hard to keep off the field... This is not a Travian Smith trying to get by on only his physical skills IMO...


I'm not in anyway saying he'll be remotlely the same kind of dominant player, but Ek physically reminds me of Seth Joyner as far as build and the way he moves... which is weird because Thomas Howard reminds me of William Thomas...

Maybe I'm just trying to wish us a couple of quick, athletic OLB's with coverage range like that, or maybe I'm just trying to wish us into the early 90's Philly Gang Green defense ... We have Ek as Joyner, Howard as Willie T, Morrison as Byron Evans, Darius as Andre Waters, Huff as Wes Hopkins, Nnamdi as Eric Allen... but sadly, even with my offseason optimism redlining, even I am NOT delusional enough to turn our DL guys into Reggie White, Clyde Simmons and Jerome Brown...:p

Awesome post. Those Eagle teams were fun to watch. Darius will be our Andre" Muddy" Waters R.I.P
 
GRETZ: AFC West Preview - Oakland

Jul 20, 2007

It’s time for the AFC West to start worrying about the Oakland Raiders again.

Why?

Did you see where the NFL docked the Raiders a week of their off-season program because the OTA sessions of first year head coach Lane Kiffin were too physical.

When was the last time the Raiders were too physical? It’s been awhile and maybe, just maybe, it’s an indication that Kiffin is starting to clean up the mess that has been the Raiders for the last few years.

Remember, it was in the first weeks of 2003 that the Raiders lost the 37th Super Bowl, falling to Tampa Bay. Since then, under three different head coaches in four seasons, the once proud and poised boys have a 15-49 record. Over the last four years, that’s the worst mark in the NFL. They had become the laughingstock of the league, especially last year on offense when over the entire season they scored 168 points, and just 45 points in the second half. That’s for the season!

And when it came time to hire another head coach, Al Davis surprised everyone and grabbed 32-year old Kiffin out of Southern Cal to lead his franchise. Some thought the hire of a head coach with no previous head coaching experience and only one year of coaching in the NFL (Jacksonville in 2000) was another sign of Davis’ senility.

Whether Kiffin knew what he was getting himself into, only he knows. How he handles the 2 a.m. phone calls from Davis once the season starts he will find out.

But Kiffin has been impressive in his first months. The Raiders also made some changes in their front office and the difference was evident almost immediately when the Raiders did not go running around throwing big dollars at free agents who can’t play. That’s been the Oakland way for a long time, but they reeled that in this time. Plus, they didn’t add trouble; they eliminated trouble. Then traded wide receiver Randy Moss to get him out of the building. They cut ties with quarterback Aaron Brooks.

When they did sign free agents, they were solid dependable types, guys that could blend together as part of a team. Not big names, but guys like Justin Griffith, Dominic Rhodes, Cooper Carlisle, Travis Taylor and then in a trade, they got quarterback Josh McCown.

They didn’t score on every one of their off-season moves. Wide receiver Mike Williams was picked up in a trade with Detroit and has stayed true to his Lions’ form, missing considerable off-season work because of injury. Rhodes will miss the first four games of the season because of an NFL suspension.

Kiffin inherited a pretty good defense, run by Rob Ryan. Despite having no help from the offense, the Raiders gave up more than 30 points only once in 16 games and more than 21 points only seven times. Overall, they allowed the fewest passing yards per game in the league and ranked No. 3 in fewest overall yards allowed.

And, the entire group is back this year. Along the line, last year DT Warren Sapp and DE Derrick Burgess were impressive. They combined for 21 sacks, the second best sacking combo in the AFC West behind only Shawne Merriman and Shaun Phillips (28.5) of the Chargers and well ahead of Jared Allen and Tamba Hali’s total of 15.5.

The Raiders have a pair of good young linebackers in Kirk Morrison in the middle and Thomas Howard on the outside. The secondary has No. 1 picks everywhere, with Nnamdi Asomugha and Fabian Washington on the corner, and now Michael Huff and Donovan Darius at safety. There also appears to b some depth at this spot.

The problem of course is offense, and there could be as many as 10 new starters on that side of the ball for the season opener against Detroit.

Oakland used the first pick of the draft of JaMarcus Russell, the big, strong, talented quarterback out of LSU, but it doesn’t appear that he’ll be the starter in September. McCown looks to have the edge there, but don’t be surprised if Russell sees the field in some fashion; Kiffin is one of those guys that spends all night dreaming up plays in his sleep.

Jerry Porter spent all of last season in Art Shell’s doghouse, but he says he’s a happy man now and he’ll be on the field. The frequently injured Ronald Curry led the team in receiving last year with 62 catches for 727 yards. The depth at wide receiver is questionable. Courtney Anderson will be the tight end; he’s not much of a receiving threat. Rookie Zach Miller out of Arizona State could get a lot of playing time. Lamont Jordan and Rhodes figure to handle the running game, but don’t count out rookie Michael Bush, coming off an injury that shutdown his season last year in Louisville.

But how much the offense improves will depend on the guys up front and they were just awful last year. Raiders quarterbacks were sacked 72 times in the 2006 season; that easily was the most passer takedowns in the league and was exactly half of the league average. That was a sack every 7.7 passing plays.

Kiffin and his staff have implemented a Denver like zone blocking scheme. That’s once reason then went after Carlisle, signing him away from the Broncos to play guard. Jake Grove will likely remain at center, but the other three positions half been shuffled throughout the off-season. Robert Gallery could play right tackle or left guard. Barry Sims has worked at left and right tackle. There are a host of others fighting for the backup spots.

Improved play on offense would help the special teams. Despite some talented performers, the Raiders kicking game wasn’t very good last year. They finished 30th in the NFL in punt coverage and 32nd in kickoff coverage. They were 31st in punt returns and they were 30 in field goal percentage.

Kicker Sebastian Janikowski remains very inconsistent; he can ring up a 55-yarder like he did last year, and he can miss three field goals inside the 40-yard line, as he did last year. He ended up making just 72 percent of his kicks; that’s not good enough. Punter Shane Lechler has one of the strongest legs in football and finished second in gross punting average, but he was 11 yards less on his net average. Chris Carr is a reliable returner and averaged 25.5 yards per kickoff return, but his longest return was just 50 yards. He averaged only 6.2 yards on punt returns.

With the fourth place schedule, Kiffin has the opportunity to improve the Raiders record in his first year if he’s got this team on the right track. In September, he’s got games with Detroit, Denver, Cleveland and Miami. A good start would help matters quite a bit.

But already, the Kiffin Raiders have made progress. Imagine, being penalized for too much physical play in practice. There might be hope yet in the Black Hole.
 
Pre-Season Picks – AFC West -

Michael Short, Around the NFL

The AFC can at the very least boast it has two of the best running backs in football. Two teams that have some of the league’s most die-hard fans also reside in the West. Two of the most effective defensive teams from 2006 are also contending in the West.

Still, I can’t help but not care about the West at all. Not even a little. (Except for betting)

Early side note: I realize above is a double-negative. I know this. But did you ever see the "Sportscenter" commercial where Dan Patrick almost had a perfect show but right near the end he said "...and that kind of thing can't never happen in the playoffs" and the camera panned to the production room and an umpire stood up and yelled "That's a double negative!" What a great commercial for douchebag English majors like myself. What a bad side note.

Yet, the picks must go on…


4th Place – Kansas City Chiefs, 6-10

I am sorry but I have no faith in Damon Huard. Chiefs’ fans will convince themselves that he can get it done after a decent showing in the absence of Trent Green last year, but get serious. This is comparable to fathers who don’t think their daughters are getting hammered at college and, uh, going to a guy’s house to, uh, hold hands.

Wake up.

Larry Johnson is a force, no question. He also had over 400 rushing attempts in 2006.

Kentucky Derby horses aren’t ridden that hard.

Since I became really interested in the entire NFL (rather than just the Bears), I don’t think I’ve ever been able to name a Kansas City wide receiver. I have learned there is a guy named Eddie Kennison. He is catching passes from Damon Huard. Great.

(The excitement is like in "Wayne's World" when Wayne and Garth are in front of a green screen and are magically whisked away to Delaware, prompting Wayne to say,
"Hi, I'm in Delaware." Maybe my favorite moment of that movie.)

What’s worse?

Week 1 is Matt Schaub vs. Damon Huard.

Actually, Chiefs’ fans, that’s not so bad. After Houston you have to go into Chicago, then at home against Minnesota who boasted one of the league’s top rushing defenses in 2006, followed by San Diego, Jacksonville and Cincinnati.

The best thing about the 2007 KC season is the HBO special “Hard Knocks.”
The worst thing is the rest of the season, the impending LJ injury and Damon "Guess My Number and Get a Free Foam Finger" Huard. Have fun, it's gonna be a long 2007.


3rd Place – Oakland Raiders, 6-10

Laugh naysayer, but Oak-town had the third-ranked defense in football last season.

Then again, they also averaged less than 11 points a game, but that was under the laser rocket (er) arm of Andrew Walter.

Side note: Never trust anyone who has two first names instead of a first and last. Good policy. Think about the Double-first namers you’ve encountered. Strange, eh?

However, this season JaMarcus Russell comes into the 2007 season hyped beyond all belief after a great bowl game and in hopes of accomplishing two things:

1) Winning more than two games to improve upon the 2006 season; and
2) Defying my “Two First Names” policy

I’ll admit I liked Oakland’s chances of doing some work on offense before Dominic Rhodes was suspended for substance abuse, but he’s only out four games. Jerry Porter returns this season ready to play and Russell does have the arm to get the ball to his receivers, as well as the legs and size to buy some extra time.

As mentioned, the defense was the silver lining to an awful season in 2006. The Raiders added hard-hitting, veteran safety Donovan Darius, who may not start, but is playing under coach Kiffin who worked with Darius in Jacksonville.

Put it this way, the Raiders are not going to do worse this season. I’ll take JaMarcus Russell and a staunch Raider defense over Damon “Wait, I’m Starting This Year?” Huard and LJ’s impending season-ending injury any day.


2nd Place – Denver Broncos, 11-5

The Broncos have turned into that Atlanta Braves-esque team that always seems to be contending every season, yet no one really expects them to actually go all the way any more.

I agree.

The Broncos are still lacking that quality running back that is going to alleviate some pressure off of sophomore starter Jay Cutler. Travis Henry (Two First Name policy in effect) had a decent season in 2006, showing signs of the player he was in Buffalo. Is he an every-down back? This remains to be seen.

Rod Smith is still nursing an injury. Career slot guy and former Colt Brandon Stokley is back fresh from a ruptured Achilles’ tendon he suffered in 2006. The Broncos did sign tight end and proven go-to Daniel Graham—a smart move considering the younger quarterbacks’ tendency to hit the bigger target releasing from the line and spotting up under the coverage.

But can Denver keep up with San Diego?

Not a chance. The defense is stellar in Denver, but the Chargers’ D is nothing to scoff at either. The Chargers’ offense, on the other hand, cannot be matched by any team in the West, and almost any team in the AFC, barring New England and Indy.

Side note: Still, I think Henry is a good sleeper for fantasy purposes. He’ll get most goal line situations because of the undersized Mike Bell backing him up and very few running backs fail under Shanahan’s system. I’m just saying if he’s still around in late rounds, he is going to surprise you and could be a productive back-up. (Especially after LJ tears a ligament and you need a quality back-up.)


1st Place – San Diego Chargers, 13-3

As a Bears’ fan who fears a defense lacking last year’s starting defensive tackle (“Tanked” Johnson) and starting linebacker (Drew Rosenhaus’s puppet, Lance Briggs),
I fear LaDainian in Week 1.

I’ve made peace with this game.

Let’s get rid of the `85 season comparisons early this year.

Philip Rivers enters his second year as a starter with weapons. He is without Keenan McCardell, but still has that one guy in the backfield (you know, what’s his name?), Antonio Gates at tight end and second-year wide out Vincent Jackson (a beast at 6’5”, 241 lbs, and another pick for a late-round fantasy sleeper) who showed some nice flashes of brilliance to close out 2006.

The defense, led by Shawn “Lights Out, Syringes In” Merriman should be in the same shape as last season and ready to tear apart their cake walk schedule.

Have you seen the 2007 Chargers’ “hit list?”

Home games: Chicago, KC, Oakland, Houston, Indy, Baltimore, Detroit & Denver

Away games: New England, Green Bay, Denver, Minny, Jax, KC, Tennessee & Oaktown

Home Record: 6-2
Away Record: 7-1

The Chargers should have no problems clinching the AFC West. The three losses (most likely against Indy, New England & Baltimore) are an area of concern as San Diego will most likely face one of these teams early in the playoffs as well.

Then again, an early bow from SD in the post-season is, well, lights out, right?
 
From Jeremy Green...

...They are no longer the worst team in the Division as I will pass that torch to the Chiefs. I think the Raiders can be as good as 8-8 behind that defense, an offensive line that will be nuch better and a solid RB unit. McCown is the key though. He has to play well. One positive is that the team has really bought into Kiffin's program and that will buy them so close wins this year that they may have lost in the past.
 
Position group analysis: Defensive backs

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Friday at 3:13 pm
(Third in a series analyzing Raiders position groups heading into training camp)

Starters: CB Nnamdi Asomugha, CB Fabian Washington, SS Michael Huff, FS Stuart Schweigert.

The competition: S Darnell Bing, CB John Bowie, S Colin Branch, CB Chris Carr, CB Marquice Cole, S Jarrod Cooper, S Donovin Darius, S Hiram Eugene, S Eric Frampton, DB Chris Johnson, CB Stanford Routt, DB Levonne Rowan, CB Duane Starks, DB B.J. Ward.

Summary: Coach Lane Kiffin can talk about competition all he wants, but barring injury, the names Asomugha and Washington are etched in stone as the starting corners.

The league is full of corners who have one big year and have trouble duplicating their success. If it happens to Asumogha, who had eight interceptions last season, it won't be due to a lack of effort.

Long after many of the Raiders were high-tailing it to the locker room after one of Art Shell's tediously long practice sessions, Asomugha was the lone player who would remain late, urging the support staff to throw him passes to improve hands that were once made of stone.

Washington might have been the most impressive Raider defender at least year's training camp. It didn't translate into a breakout year, but Washington was better in Year 2 than he was in Year 1 and farther along at this stage than Asomugha. Washington's makeup speed is excellent and he is a sure tackler despite his splintery build.

Routt has never taken to the role of nickel corner; he readily admits to being uncomfortable in slot traffic. In his third year, Routt needs to show signs of being a football player instead of a track athlete who can play a little football.

Bowie, a rookie out of Cincinnati, is one of those classic Raider picks. He wasn't even invited to the NFL scouting combine after an injury-plagued college career. He is considered to have excellent athletic skills and is a willing tackler but is raw in terms of technique.

Carr is supposed to be to small to be an NFL corner, but all he did was make the Raiders biggest defensive play of the season _ a 100-yard interception return against Pittsburgh that made the difference in a Raiders win. He considers himself as much a defensive back as a return specialist.

Starks signed last season to lend a steadying hand as a veteran. He was a non-factor and it was a surprise he was brought back.

Remember when the Raiders loaded their roster with cornerbacks at the expense of safeties? No longer. Rob Ryan apparently wants to make sure that when he goes to some nickel and dime coverages, he will have defensive backs stout enough to lower the boom as well as maintain coverage on tight ends and running backs.

How all this sorts out will be one of the intriuging aspects of training camp.

Huff, the No. 7 overall pick last season, plays bigger than his 205 pounds. But the fact remains he may be too small for the rigors of playing in the box, and his ball skills and instincts might be better utilized playing deep.

Schweigert, who had two of Oakland's five interceptions in 2005, had zero last season and once every few games has a glaring missed tackle which leads to a big gain. Strange, because he is one of the most sure special teams tacklers on the squad.

Speculation was that Schweigert could be moved aside in favor of Darius, signed as a free agent after being released by Jacksonville.

Don't pay too much attention to Oakland's claims that they really don't have free and strong safeties, only left and right safeties. That's what a team says when it doesn't have players which properly fit the responsibilities.

Darius, if he were to start, would not be playing as a deep safety. Whatever skills he has left are suited to playing in the box. His pass coverage was suspect even in his prime. Darius' contract, which had no signing bonus and a $600,000 guarantee of a $1.6 million salary, makes it clear the Raiders aren't sure how much he has left.

Branch, a former starter at strong safety in Carolina and a special teams player, is another physical presence who is at his best in tight quarters rather than in coverage situations. If Ryan devises schemes in which Schweigert, Huff and Darius all see considerable playing time, it's hard to imagine Branch seeing the field that often.

The wild card in all this is Bing, whom the Raiders attempted to convert to linebacker last season after a collegiate career as a strong safety. Bing went on injured reserve with a neck injury, losing his rookie year. When Kiffin arrived, Bing became a safety again _ the position he played at USC when Kiffin was the co-offensive coordinator there.

During minicamps and OTAs, Bing made his share of plays.

Frampton, a rookie from Washington State, was an opponent Kiffin greatly respected in the Pac-10 and is regarded as a playmaker and a potentially strong special teams player. The Raiders announced Friday Frampton signed his contract.

Where all this leaves Cooper is anyone's guess. He has been a special teams leader since his arrival on a team with suspect special teams. Defensively, he's an enthusiastic hitter who makes coaches nervous when injuries necessitate him being on the field.

Ward is similar to Cooper, a sometimes overly aggressive defender who plays special teams.

The bottom line: A real mix-and-match proposition with some intriguing possibilities. But it will all flow from Asomugha and Washington. If those two can become one of the top corner tandems in the NFL, it makes the puzzle that much easier to put together.
 
I think he may have more of an upside as an OLB than many think... I like the way he glides when he moves and that he's a collision guy... He basically had no practical experience as a LB when we got him... Once Martindale gets his read and recognition skills up to speed, a guy with that kind of freaky athletic abilities and smarts to match is going to be hard to keep off the field... This is not a Travian Smith trying to get by on only his physical skills IMO...


I'm not in anyway saying he'll be remotlely the same kind of dominant player, but Ek physically reminds me of Seth Joyner as far as build and the way he moves... which is weird because Thomas Howard reminds me of William Thomas...

Maybe I'm just trying to wish us a couple of quick, athletic OLB's with coverage range like that, or maybe I'm just trying to wish us into the early 90's Philly Gang Green defense ... We have Ek as Joyner, Howard as Willie T, Morrison as Byron Evans, Darius as Andre Waters, Huff as Wes Hopkins, Nnamdi as Eric Allen... but sadly, even with my offseason optimism redlining, even I am NOT delusional enough to turn our DL guys into Reggie White, Clyde Simmons and Jerome Brown...:p

:pound:

Tommy Kelly has the size, but if only he had the talent Reggie had. Oh my god, Reggie was an incredible player. Kelly needs to raise his game from C+/B- to a B+ this season. Then we'd have a solid guy for 5-6 season.

Sands might be a great situational guy who could grow into an every down guy. If he makes the transition this or next season we might get 4 good seasons out of him.

Hawthorne needs to graduate from flashes to stretches and then to consistent and he'd be a great rotation guy for 6 season. Then all we'd need is the designated rush guy at DT.

Draft some promising dude next season. We could have a good situation at DT. That is assuming everyone can and does raise their game one or two notches.

You're right DE is looking good right now. I like the potential we've got there. Huntley and Richardson need to deliver. I'm pretty sure Moses will.

Early prediction, we're drafting a early round (or signing a very good FA if Sapp takes off) and a late round DT next year.

Yeah, it's easy to get optimistic about these guys. Hope the Jiube makes you look like Nostradamus.
 
Chargers...

Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson asked what will be different about San Diego with new coach Norv Turner. "Norv first came in and said "Guys, listen, I don't care about winning 14 games in the regular season or anything like that. We're gonna win games in the regular season. We all know that." He said "What I'm concerned [about] is the playoffs. We'll get to the playoffs and [get] over that hump. To me, it really doesn't matter about winning 14 games. That means nothing to me. It's all about the playoffs and what are you gonna do when you get there."
 
That's some deep profound commentary by Cap't Obvious
 
Chargers RB LaDainian Tomlinson asked what will be different about San Diego with new coach Norv Turner. "Norv first came in and said "Guys, listen, I don't care about winning 14 games in the regular season or anything like that. We're gonna win games in the regular season. We all know that." He said "What I'm concerned [about] is the playoffs. We'll get to the playoffs and [get] over that hump. To me, it really doesn't matter about winning 14 games. That means nothing to me. It's all about the playoffs and what are you gonna do when you get there."
Norv's a great example of the 'ol "some guys just don't have it". Any successful head coach would argue you can't pick up from where you left off the previous season. I really hope the Chargers come into the season thinking they've already qualified for the playoffs. I'd love to be on the team that plays the Chargers opening week.
 
Position group analysis: Offensive line

Jerry McDonald

July 21st, 2007
(Fifth in a series analyzing Raiders position groups heading into training camp)

Projected starters: Robert Gallery, Paul McQuistan, Jake Grove, Cooper Carlisle, Barry Sims.

The competition: Kevin Boothe, Ben Claxton, Cornell Green, Mario Henderson, Chris Morris, Jeremy Newberry, Chad Slaughter, Albert Toeaina, Adam Treu, Mark Wilson.

Summary: The Raiders will be better up front in 2006, because they only way they could be worse is . . . oh, never mind. There is no clever line to end that sentence, because they couldn't possibly be worse.

It was easily the most atrocious unit play in the NFL last season, perhaps the worst in NFL history. So from that perspective, new line coach Tom Cable is in a pretty good position. Reduce the sacks from 72 into the 30s and show some signs of joining the pack in the run-happy AFC West and Cable is the NFL's assistant coach of the year.

The player watched most closely, of course, will be Gallery. He will start, but where? He played left tackle, left guard and right tackle during minicamps and OTAs and a case could be made for any one of the three.

Galllery should play left tackle because it's hardly fair to give him one year under the Art Shell-Irv Eatman-Jackie Slater disaster. Using last year as a guide, those three could turn Jonathan Ogden into a turnstile.

Gallery should play right tackle becuase that's where played as a rookie (and Year 2) when he looked good enough as a pass blocker that non one was yet calling him a "bust."

Gallery should play left guard, because his agility and physical attributes could make him a devastating cut blocker, and everyone knows the real stars of an offense that features pulls, traps and one-cut runs are the guards.

There is a fourth conclusion, one that many Raiders fans have already reached but one I consider premature.

Gallery is another Tony Mandarich. Beyond hope.

If he doesn't settle in as at least a solid pro this year, then it's time to jump on that bandwagon.

Until Gallery settles in at one spot, it seems the only set-in-stone positions are Grove at center and Carlisle at right guard. Everybody raved about Grove's mean streak in college. But the problem is he simply doesn't have the kind of brute power to be a center in the Barret Robbins mold.

Grove could, however, fare well in a Tom Nalen sort of way in the Lane Kiffin offense. Carlisle came from Denver, where they've been pushing the envelope of blocking ethics since Alex Gibbs and Mike Shanahan went there in 1995. (Gibbs, by the way, did some consulting in Atlanta when Cable was the line coach there).

Barry Sims, pushed out by Shell and Co., should start at left or right tackle. Paul McQuistan, a left guard last year, could be the right tackle if Gallery becomes a guard.

It's been interesting to note that Boothe, the closest thing to a bright spot the Raiders had on the offensive line, has been consistenlty running as a second-team guard after starting 14 games at guard last year.

The Raiders took a shot in the dark in bringing aboard Newberry after missing the better part of the last three seasons following microfracture knee surgery. If he makes it through camp and is on the team, it's a plus.

If Newberry were to claim a starting job, either pushing Grove to guard or starting at guard himself, it's a miracle.

Green, also schooled on blocking techinique in Denver, has the look of a backup tackle in Oakland _ a veteran who along with Sims can work with third-round pick Henderson of Florida State.

Slaughter is a career backup.

Treu, who has been a Raider since 1997, could see his run end if the Raiders settle on Morris or Jon Condo as the long-snapper.

The bottom line: Better? Sure. But the only way the Raiders approach .500 is if Gallery and Grove become the cornerstones they were expected to be.

Coming Sunday: Tight ends
 
A little bit on Shotwell...

Sun, Jul. 22, 2007

Let the battle for a spot on the roster begin

Brian Milne

For the first time since they can remember, Courtney Brown and Kyle Shotwell head into a training camp at the bottom of the depth chart.
Their practice reps will be sparse and any mistakes they make could cost them a spot on the team.

Welcome to life in the NFL. Brown, a seventh-round pick by the Dallas Cowboys, and Shotwell, a free-agent pickup by the Oakland Raiders, open training camps this week with plenty to prove if the rookies intend on making a 53-man roster Sept. 1.

“I know it’s going to be hard,” said Brown, a cornerback. “It won’t be easy at all because all the guys out here are so talented. It could boil down to the smallest thing, because this is a business and you never know what they’re looking for out there.”

Shotwell, a linebacker, might have a more

difficult road as a free agent, joining an Oakland squad that brought in four linebackers during the offseason. The Raiders list eight linebackers on their roster heading into Friday’s training camp in Napa Valley.

“That’s the biggest difference about the NFL,” Shotwell said. “When I came to Cal Poly, I signed a scholarship and knew I’d be there for four or five years. Here, you never know what’s going to happen. That’s the nature of professional sports. It’s a business. I’m just going to give it my all and hopefully I make the team and continue my career.”

Brown, who hopes to finalize his contract with the Raiders by midweek, knows he has an uphill battle ahead of him as well.

Brown missed nearly all of the team’s volunteer workouts while he finished up his degree in the spring, while fellow rookie cornerback Alan Ball, who could be battling Brown for the final cornerback spot, drew high praise from the coaching staff throughout minicamp.

“I really don’t know how it’s all going to play out,” said Brown, whose team opens camp Wednesday in San Antonio. “Hopefully they drafted me for a reason, and I can show that I’m worth it. All I can do is go out there and compete as hard as I can.”
 
Raiders roster

Sunday, July 22, 2007

Here are the players who will attend the team's training camp. s by
Raiders beat writer David White. Projected starters are in upper-case type.

Offensive line

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

65 BARRY SIMS LT 6-5 300 32 9 FA-99 Utah

Back at old position after doghouse season

79 PAUL MCQUISTAN LG 6-6 315 24 1 D3-06 Weber State

Rookie starter fighting to keep his job

64 JAKE GROVE C 6-4 300 27 4 D2-04 Virginia Tech

Struggled with penalties and QB exchange

66 COOPER CARLISLE RG 6-5 295 29 8 FA-07 Florida

Ex-Bronco experienced at cut-block style

76 ROBERT GALLERY RT 6-7 325 26 4 D1-04 Iowa

Former No. 2-overall pick has to pan out eventually

67 Kevin Boothe RG 6-5 315 24 2 D6-06 Cornell

Surprise starter as rookie can still win a job

69 Ben Claxton G 6-2 300 26 3 FA-07 Ole Miss

Five teams, five years, two games played

74 Cornell Green RT 6-6 315 30 8 FA-07 C. Florida

Another Denver castoff who gets it

75 Mario Henderson LT 6-7 300 22 R D3-07 Florida State

Lots of upside, but too raw for now

61 Chris Morris C 6-4 305 24 1 D7-06 Michigan St.

Made '06 practice squad as long snapper

60 Jeremy Newberry C 6-5 315 31 10 FA-07 Cal

Ex-Pro Bowler will push Grove if ailing knees hold up

78 Chad Slaughter LT 6-8 340 29 7 FA-02 Alcorn State

Pinch starter had way too many false starts

73 Albert Toeaina T 6-6 355 23 1 FA-07 Tennessee

Ex-City College of S.F. star gets a long shot

62 Adam Treu C 6-5 300 33 11 D3-97 Nebraska

Senior long snapper back from quad injury

63 Mark Wilson T 6-7 320 26 2 FA-06 Cal

Late '06 addition to practice squad

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Tight ends

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

4 ZACH MILLER TE 6-5 255 21 R D2-07 Arizona State

Perfect fit for West Coast's open spaces

88 James Adkisson TE 6-5 235 27 2 FA-03 South Carolina

Made first, and only, career catch last year

83 Courtney Anderson TE 6-6 270 26 4 D7-04 San Jose State

Lost starting job as season wore on

85 John Madsen TE 6-5 240 24 2 FA-06 Utah

Converted receiver really caught on as rookie

84 Tony Stewart TE 6-5 260 27 7 FA-07 Penn State

Helped by special teams tackle skills

47 Fred Wakefield TE 6-7 295 28 7 FA-07 Illinois

Experience as defensive end, offensive tackle

86 Randal Williams TE 6-3 235 29 7 FA-05 N. Hampshire

Must hold on to the ball to stand a chance

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Wide receivers

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

89 RONALD CURRY WR 6-2 210 28 6 D7-02 North Carolina

Finally healthy, emerged as leading receiver

81 JERRY PORTER WR 6-2 220 29 8 D2-00 West Virginia

Finally happy, giving coach reason to smile

13 Will Buchanon WR 6-3 190 26 4 D4-04 USC

Destined for more practice-squad service

82 Carlos Francis WR 5-10 190 26 4 D4-04 Texas Tech

Poor speedster just can't stay healthy

80 Doug Gabriel WR 6-2 215 26 5 D5-03 Central Florida

Former punt returner could be on last chance

15 Johnnie Lee Higgins WR 5-11 185 23 R D3-07 UTEP

Don't be surprised if he takes over return jobs

18 Jonathan Holland WR 6-1 195 22 R D7-07 Louisiana Tech

Curse of Moss: No. 18 got hurt first weekend

14 Chris McFoy WR 6-1 200 23 R UFA-07 USC

Little-known role player for Kiffin in L.A.

19 Johnnie Morant WR 6-4 220 25 4 D5-04 Syracuse

Thrilled to make first career start

4 Rich Parson WR 5-10 185 27 3 FA-07 Maryland

NFL Europa died, he's still here (for now)

8 Travis Taylor WR 6-1 210 29 8 FA-07 Florida

Follows Moss' wake for second time

87 Alvis Whitted WR 6-0 185 32 10 FA-02 N. Carolina S.

No TDs in 15 starts last year a red flag

6 Lauren Williams WR 6-3 195 24 1 FA-07 Liberty

11 catches in nine games in Europe

17 Mike Williams WR 6-5 230 23 3 T-07 USC

Make or break for former first-round pick
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Quarterbacks

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College


12 JOSH McCOWN QB 6-4 215 28 6 T-07 Sam Houston St.

Quick study ready to hold the fort for Russell

7 Jeff Otis QB 6-1 210 24 1 FA-07 Columbia

Someone's got to be the fourth stringer

2 JaMarcus Russell QB 6-6 255 21 R D1-07 LSU

Be patient, the kid will start soon enough

16 Andrew Walter QB 6-6 230 25 3 D3-05 Arizona State

Have great camp, or be the new Tui at No. 3

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Running backs


No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

324 ZACK CROCKETT FB 6-2 240 34 13 FA-99 Florida State

Savvy veteran can still block

34 LaMONT JORDAN RB 5-10 230 28 7 FA-05 Maryland

Time to stop talking and start producing

43 Michael Bush RB 6-1 245 23 R D4-07 Louisville

Broken leg aside, a future star in the making

20 Adimchinobe Echemandu RB 5-10 225 26 4 FA-06 Cal

Patience paid off with late-season appearance

36 Justin Griffith FB 6-0 230 26 5 FA-07 Mississippi St.

Ex-Falcons starter could nudge past Crockett

44 Tony Jackson RB 6-2 255 25 1 FA-06 Iowa

Best case: make the practice squad again

46 Oren O'Neal FB 5-11 245 23 R D6-07 Arkansas St.

Niche player on special teams

33 Dominic Rhodes RB 5- 205 28 7 FA-07 Midwestern St.

He'd be starting if not for 4-game suspension

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Defensive linemen

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

56 DERRICK BURGESS DE 6-2 260 28 7 FA-05 Ole Miss

Sacks star shows no sign of slowing down

90 TERDELL SANDS DT 6-7 335 27 7 FA-03 Tenn,-Chattanooga

Big man in the middle gets after the QB

99 WARREN SAPP DT 6-2 300 34 13 FA-04 Miami

Relies more on smarts than skill these days

91 TYLER BRAYTON DE 6-6 280 27 5 D1-03 Colorado

With no sacks in '06, could be in big trouble

77 Anttaj Hawthorne DT 6-3 310 25 3 D6-05 Wisconsin

Steady as a role player off the bench

94 Kevin Huntley DE 6-7 270 25 2 FA-05 Kansas State

A dark horse to unseat Brayton

93 Tommy Kelly DT 6-6 300 26 4 FA-04 Mississippi St.

Unpersuasive as '06 starter, could land at DE

96 Quentin Moses DE 6-5 260 23 R D3-07 Georgia

Edge rusher will get on the field

98 Jay Richardson DE 6-6 280 23 R D5-07 Ohio State

Basketball star turned pass deflector

68 Lauvale Sape DT 6-1 295 26 3 FA-07 Utah

Nose tackle had eight tackles in 2005

95 Josh Shaw DT 6-3 305 27 4 FA-07 Michigan State

Last NFL game was with Miami in '04

97 Dave Tollefson DE 6-4 265 26 1 FA-07 NW Mo. State

Spent the spring playing in Frankfurt

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Linebackers

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

53 THOMAS HOWARD OLB 6-3 240 24 1 D2-06 UTEP

Impressive as a rookie starter

52 KIRK MORRISON MLB 6-2 240 25 3 D3-05 San Diego State

Broke 100-tackle barrier as a sophomore

54 SAM WILLIAMS OLB 6-5 260 26 5 D3-03 Fresno State

Started, but saw less and less playing time

57 Ricky Brown OLB 6-2 235 23 2 FA-06 Boston College

Catching on as a special teams whiz

48 Chris Clemons LB 6-3 240 25 4 FA-07 Georgia

16 tackles in three years for Redskins

N/A Ricardo Dickerson LB 6-1 250 25 1 FA-07 Maryland

First, the NFL Europa guy needs a number

50 Isaiah Ekejiuba MLB 6-4 240 25 3 FA-05 Virginia

Another player with a special-teams future

59 Isaiah Kacyvenski MLB 6-1 250 29 8 FA-07 Harvard

Free agent on Oprah show the day he signed

51 J.J. Milan MLB 6-5 265 22 R UA-07 Nevada

Prep state champ in discus. Anything else?

41 Kyle Shotwell OLB 6-1 240 23 R UFA-07 Cal Poly

Poly alum John Madden will root for underdog

55 Robert Thomas OLB 6-0 235 27 6 FA-06 UCLA

Goal-line stopper a threat to Williams' spot


Defensive backs

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

21 NNAMDI ASOMUGHA CB 6-2 210 26 5 D1-03 Cal

Pro Bowl candidate will get franchise tag

24 MICHAEL HUFF SS 6-1 205 24 2 D1-06 Texas

No. 1 pick must start making plays

30 STUART SCHWEIGERT FS 6-2 210 26 4 D3-04 Purdue

Everyone's writing him off before camp starts

27 FABIAN WASHINGTON CB 5-11 185 24 2 D1-05 Nebraska

Ready for an Asomugha-like breakthrough

29 Darnell Bing SS 6-2 220 22 2 D4-06 USC

Moved back to his natural position

35 John Bowie CB 5-11 205 23 R D4-07 Cincinnati

Also known as the player picked up for Moss

49 Colin Branch SS 5-11 205 27 5 FA-07 Stanford

Ex-Card hopes to keep career chugging along

23 Chris Carr CB 5-10 180 24 3 FA-05 Boise State

Got married, now fighting for return jobs

18 Marquice Cole CB 5-10 190 23 R UFA-07 Northwestern

He gets points for at least trying

40 Jarrod Cooper FS 6-1 215 29 7 FA-04 Kansas State

Special teams captain suspended four games

N/A Donovin Darius SS 61 225 31 10 FA-07 Syracuse

Gives the Raiders a prototype strong safety

31 Hiram Eugene S 6-2 200 26 1 F-06 Louisiana Tech

Cracked active roster for '06 season finale

39 Eric Frampton S 5-11 205 23 R UFA-07 Washington St.

San Jose native a solid tackler

37 Chris Johnson DB 6-1 200 27 4 FA-07 Louisville

Decent 24 tackles with Rams in '05

26 Stanford Routt CB 6-1 195 23 3 D2-05 Houston

Very capable backup and nickel cover man

N/A Levonne Rowan DB 6-1 190 24 1 FA-07 Wisconsin

Fresh out of Frankfurt

22 Duane Starks CB 5-10 175 33 10 FA-06 Miami

Barely keeping his career alive

28 B.J. Ward DB 6-3 210 25 2 FA-07 Florida State

Spent '06 on injured reserve with migraines


Special teams

No. Name Pos Ht Wt Age Exp Acq College

11 SEBASTIAN JANIKOWSKI K 6-2 250 29 8 D1-00 Florida State

Consistent, just not spectacular

9 SHANE LECHLER P 6-2 225 30 8 D5-00 Texas A&M

Good as it gets, even if the touchbacks are up

58 Jon Condo LS 6-3 250 25 1 FA-06 Maryland

Can long snap, will travel
 
Man, sure have a lot of depth in that secondary. This is shaping up to be one scary defensive unit.
 
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