Training Camp - Day 4

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July 30, 2007

Day 4, morning practice update

NAPA - Pro Bowl defensive end Derrick Burgess is still on the physically unable to perform list after hernia surgery, but that doesn't mean the Raiders offensive tackles have caught a break.

The terror off the edge making the most noise is rookie Quentin Moses. He was disrupting pass plays again this morning. At one point, he took rookie tackle Mario Henderson and guard Paul McQuistan with him to the quarterback.

I can already hear the cynics. Of course he looks good - he is going against the Raiders offensive line.

But that doesn't take away from the burst the third-round pick from Georgia has shown consistently.

He's not stout against the run like most pass rushers out of college, but after the Raiders got almost no production in terms of sacks at the end spot opposite Burgess, if Moses can be a pass rush specialist early in his career, he'll get plenty of playing time.

--Jason Jones
 
I like it. One of my favorite draft classes to date.
 
July 30, 2007

Day 4, morning practice update

NAPA - Pro Bowl defensive end Derrick Burgess is still on the physically unable to perform list after hernia surgery, but that doesn't mean the Raiders offensive tackles have caught a break.

The terror off the edge making the most noise is rookie Quentin Moses. He was disrupting pass plays again this morning. At one point, he took rookie tackle Mario Henderson and guard Paul McQuistan with him to the quarterback.

I can already hear the cynics. Of course he looks good - he is going against the Raiders offensive line.

But that doesn't take away from the burst the third-round pick from Georgia has shown consistently.

He's not stout against the run like most pass rushers out of college, but after the Raiders got almost no production in terms of sacks at the end spot opposite Burgess, if Moses can be a pass rush specialist early in his career, he'll get plenty of playing time.

--Jason Jones

Moses parts the O-Line
... and brings two of every o-lineman with him. This kid is a baller! I cant believe he fell to the 3rd round!

:righton: :boxing: :beerbang:
 
LOL...BT...

Kiffin Camp Q & A: Day 4

July 29, 2007

Head Coach Lane Kiffin Addresed the media after the Raiders morning practice on Day 4 of Training Camp. Coach Kiffin talked about CB Nnamdi Asomugha., rookie DE Quentin Moses. and QB Josh McCown..

Q: How about the play of Nnamdi [Asomugha], how has he looked in camp, what are your hopes for him this season?

Kiffin: We challenged Nnamdi to go to another level. He had 8 interceptions last year and he could sit back and be happy about that but that’s not enough, he was third in the AFC lets be first in the AFC. He has come out and been really good, you can see him going to a confidence level, I was not here before but coaches who have been here before say he is extremely confident right now. He is playing routes and going to another level of understanding the game, understanding what’s coming and these splits equal this as opposed to just playing like younger guys do, we expect a really big year from him .

Q: Is the plan to alternate first team snaps between Jeremy [Newberry] and Jake [Grove] at center?

Kiffin: What happens is you watch practice and you’re going to see different guys with the ones and different guys with the twos. It’s the same thing we talked about the other day, if you put a guy with the second team or the third team its hard for him to compete at the same level as the first team guy…At the center spots both of those guys will alternate part of practice. One will be with the ones and one will be with the two’s and they will reverse that.

Q: With Derrick Burgess. out, which one of the ends have you been impressed with?

Kiffin: Quentin [Moses] again today I mentioned it yesterday, on offense we are struggling to block him and he continues to improve. He is playing the run game better which is what he had to come into this camp and do. We knew that he had some pass rush skills but he needs to show us that he can be an every down player.

Q: We hear about body language a lot out there, how close of attention do you guys pay to that? Did they show you in between plays how much they wanted it?

Kiffin: Sure, they show you who they are. We talk about that all the time, that everything you do counts, both on and off the field. People show a lot about themselves when you’re not looking right at them. Those are the players that we want, players that we can trust.

Q: What has Josh McCown. shown you thus far?

Kiffin: He continues to make plays. As I watch film, I see that he’s not scared of anything. He’s throwing the ball [well], he’s got a great feel for the rush, and he’s getting rid of the ball even before he’s supposed to because he feels something on his backside. He continues to stand in there and he’s not afraid of anything. If you watch him around the team now, his teammates flock to him a little bit. He’s fitting in really well.

Q: Whose going to be returning kicks this year, is it [Chris] Carr and who else?

Kiffin: We’re going to have a big competition. Obviously, we’ll give Carr a shot and also Johnnie Lee [Higgins] and some other guys that we’ll throw in there but those are the two main guys that [we] need to have some competition with.
 
July 30, 2007

NAPA - More musings from the morning practice:

A familiar face showed up, Chester McGlockton, the team's first round pick in 1992 and was with the Raiders through the 1997 season.

The massive defensive tackle watched defensive line drills and scrimmages (shoulder pads and shorts) from the sidelines.

Nowadays, McGlockton is a businessman. Among his endeavors is being a franchisee of a Fatburger restaurant with rapper E-40 in Pleasant Hill.

If you haven't had a Fatburger with egg, cheese and chili, you're missing out.

*Safety B.J. Ward, who knocked Ronald Curry's helmet off with a hit yesterday, is still hitting hard. He and Donovin Darius have been the thumpers of camp.

*Jeremy Newberry is still putting defensive linemen on their backs.

*Rookie fullback Oren O'Neal had a few spirited collisions with linebacker Kirk Morrison.

--Jason Jones
 
Training camp, Day 4 (A.M. practice)

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Monday at 4:47 pm

News and notes, sights and sounds, from the Raiders' practice Monday morning:

– Raiders coach Lane Kiffin was more animated than at any other time during sessions open to the media dating back to his first minicamp.

Following a false start by rookie fullback Oren O'Neil, Kiffin barked, "Get me a new fullback, this (bleep) is getting old."

Kiffin was calling for players by name, insisting they hustle, and doing it in a sharp and extremely familiar tone. There is less sarcasm and far fewer profanities, but the pitch and delivery were unmistakable.

Close your eyes, and he could have passed for Jon Gruden.

"Sounds just like him," tackle Barry Sims said. "Sometimes I have flashbacks."

Is that good or bad?

"As long as I'm still in there it's good," Sims said.

– O'Neil, who was replaced by Zack Crockett after his false start, recovered nicely. He later had a pair of punishing blocks in a goal line drill, one in which he drove Kirk Morrison into the end zone.

– A year ago, the Raiders were drilling offensive linemen on the correct way to recover a fumble _ which unfortunately became a very real issue once Aaron Brooks and Andrew Walter found themselves besiged by the pass rush.

On Monday, quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo was standing in front of quarterbacks and simulating errant snaps from the shotgun formation, flipping the ball to the left and right, and sometimes rolling it on the ground.

Without Adam Treu around, you never know . . .

– Preceeding a third-down play on a seven-on-seven drill in the red zone, defensive coordinator Rob Ryan was taunting the offense before the snap.

"Seabass, get ready," Ryan said.

Quarterback Josh McCown then rolled right and hit John Madsen for a touchdown.

– McCown had a pair of interceptions, one by safety B.J. Ward in a team session and another by linebacker Kyle Shotwell during seven-on-seven.

Kiffin, however, said he believes McCown is earning the trust of his teammates for the confidence he exudes as well as his ability to feel pressure coming from his blind side and make plays.

– Kiffin softened his comments a bit regarding JaMarcus Russell, the No. 1 overall pick who remains unsigned.

"I have great confidence in our people back in the office," Kiffin said. "They do keep me updated. Things are going well at this time. At the end of the day we have to do the best thing in the interest of the Raiders and for our future. I know our people are doing that right now."

– Ward's interception was his latest eye-opening play, coming the day after he knocked Johnnie Lee Higgins into a camera affixed on a tripod and knocked the helmet off Ronald Curry.

"Whether it’s special teams, or hitting somebody or getting an interception, the plays have to be made and I have to stand out in some way, shape or fashion," Ward said.

Ward looks to be a natural to fill the Jarrod Cooper role as a reserve safety and special teams player, but said he has neither the sense of humor nor the tattoos of Cooper.

"Coop, those are some big shoes to fill," Ward said. "No tattoos on me. If they aren't on me now, I'm never getting them."

Ward said Kiffin has been giving him a hard time about busting up a camera setup worth $14,000 and that Curry was initially unhappy about being de-helmeted.

"Ron Curry got mad at me yesterday because I knocked his helmet off," Ward said. "But he came up to me today and said, `Keep doing what you've got to do. You've got to make the team just like everybody else."

– Kiffin had no problem at the team's mandatory minicamp saying Warren Sapp had weighed in at 334 pounds the previous year. But that was after Sapp had lost 48 pounds.

Maybe when wide receiver Mike Williams reaches his prescribed weight, we'll find out how heavy he was when training camp began. For now, Kiffin says he doesn't know.

"We'd like for him to get down to 235," Kiffin said. "I've seen him play really well at that weight before. We've got a ways to go to get there, sa far as time frame. It's not like he has to be that in one week."

– Rookie defensive end Quintin Moses continues to impress, earning Kiffin's praise for the second straight day.

"On offense we're really struggling to block him right now," Kiffin said. "He continues to improve and he's playing the run game better which is what he had to come into this camp and do. We knew he had some pass rush skills but he needs to show us he can be an every down player."

Jay Richardson, a rookie fifth-round pick from Ohio State, also got in some work with the first team defense and also played inside at tackle with the second team.

– Jake Grove was back with the first team at center after Jeremy Newberry got a look for a good portion of Sunday's practice. Newberry worked with the second team.

– Visitors to practice included ex-Raiders Chester McGlockton and Napoleon Kaufman, who drove to Napa in McGlockton's "Fatburger" Hummer. McGlockton owns a "Fatburger" franchise in Pleasant Hill.

– Cornerback Duane Starks and tight end James Adkisson left practice with hamstring issues. Those who missed practice included cornerback John Bowie (Achilles), tackle Chad Slaughter (calf), guard Ben Claxton (knee) and tight end Randal Williams (personal reasons).

Defensive end Derrick Burgess (hernia) and running back Michael Bush (leg) remained on the physically unable to perform list and at one point were running sprints at about three-quarter speed.

Ryan was reporting a sore arm after throwing batting practice to several Raiders players following practice Sunday at a team "home run derby."

There was a large dent in the United Rentals hydraulic lift used for filming, courtesy of a line smash by Jerry Porter.
 
They have two of those Fatburger joints up here (maybe three) but I haven't been able to try one out yet. The sound good though.

So let me understand this: McFatty + Fatburgers. Yep, that works.
 
HaHa..R4...

Going, gone, gone?

NAPA - Duane Starks has a hamstring injury.

Sure hope he didn't hurt it during the team's makeshift home run derby on Sunday.

Starks is an old pro and didn't limp off the field yesterday. But a sure way to end the fun the team is having is to have someone get hurt while having fun.

By the way, the dent Jerry Porter put in the crane machine is visible from across the field. I guess that would make him a power hitter.

--Jason Jones
 
Training Camp - Day 4

Monday, July 30, 7:30 p.m.

Day 4 of training camp for the Oakland Raiders arrived Monday with Lane Kiffin and his staff challenging players to raise their game to another level on the Redwood Middle School practice field.

Kiffin, the team’s first-year head coach, wanted to see even more intensity and tempo in practice, which had players in half pads for the morning session.

“I believe they responded,” Kiffin said. “I thought guys worked extremely hard. We’ll see what the film shows.”

Nothing escapes coaches as practices are taped from towers high above the two fields. A big part of football is looking at film — whether it’s evaluating your own team’s performance, looking at an upcoming opponent, or examining college players that could be taken in the draft.

The offense went against the defense on a short field for about the last 45 minutes of practice, starting out from the 23-yard line and moving the ball with both running and passing plays. There was again no tackling, but you could still hear helmets and pads popping from contact at the line and when the two sides collided on a play.

There was a short break at practice at 10:25 a.m., with the team consuming Gatorade products. A few minutes later, everyone was back to work.

Some of the players jog off the field at the end of a practice, right up until reaching the field house. Others walk the short distance.

It has been pleasantly cool in the mornings with high overcast, but right about 10 a.m. the summer sun makes an appearance.

The team’s second evening practice was scheduled for Monday night. The Raiders have rented portable lights.

Kiffin was asked where the idea of night practices originated from.

“Just from talking to some people who had done it,” he said. “I know that New Orleans did it last season. It was the first time they had done it and they had real good success with it. I know the players felt really good about it and they obviously had a very healthy season. I know of teams that had tinkered with different versions of it, but that one-a-day really isn’t just a one-a-day. Some teams do it and that one-a-day is really a special teams practice for an hour-and-a-half early in the morning. That‚s not how we were going to go with it. If we were going to go with this and sell it to our players, it was going to be a one-a-day.”

The Raiders’ first night practice was Saturday.

“When it got darker, you could see more energy in the guys and that’s with the lights coming on, they start to feel like its closer to (real) football,” Kiffin said.

JaMarcus Russell, the Raiders‚ No. 1 overall pick in the draft, still remains unsigned and not at camp.

“I have great confidence in our people back in the office,” Kiffin said. “Things are going well at this time. At the end of the day we have got to do the best thing in the interest for the Raiders and for our future, and I know our people are doing that right now.”

--Marty James
 
Jeremy Newberry-C- Raiders Jul. 30 - 7:57 pm et


Raiders C Jeremy Newberry has been getting first-team reps at training camp.

Newberry's remarkable recovery from dual microfracture surgies appears to be well ahead of schedule. He's pushing Jake Grove for the starting position.
Source: Oakland Tribune


Mike Williams-WR- Raiders Jul. 30 - 7:55 pm et


Mike Williams is not at the weight the Raiders want him to play at during the season, if he makes the team.

Surprise, surprise. "We'd like for him to get down to 235," Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin said. "I've seen him play really well at that weight before."
Source: Oakland Tribune
 
News and notes, sights and sounds from the Raiders practice Monday night:

– JaMarcus Russell doesn't have a contract, but he did get a message from his prospective employer.

"We're working out Daunte Culpepper tomorrow morning," coach Lane Kiffin said. "We're flying him in. Any time we have a chance to investigate something that could help our team win, we’re going to do it. Obviously Daunte is something weve been looking into a little bit and this is the climax of it."

Kiffin said an Oakland scout had checked out Culpepper in Florida recently and said the Russell situation was a factor in the visit.

"Sure it has to do with that. You’ve got to take everyting into consideration," Kiffin said. "You’ve got to protect your team, you’ve got to put your team in the best position to win and make sure you have the right depth and the right competition. So obviously that factors into it."


Culpepper was released by the Miami Dolphins July 17, visited with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and has been linked with Jacksonville. Apparently not recovered from a serious knee injury, although cleared to play, Culpepper started four games before being removed from the lineup.

His last good season was in 2004, when he passed for 4,717 yards, 39 touchdowns and 11 interceptions with Randy Moss as his favorite target.

– Running back LaMont Jordan missed the night session with a sore lower back, (thanks Darius) and Barry Sims began practice but didn't finish because of an unspecified injury Kiffin termed minor. Wide receiver Jerry Porter buckled on one pass route and later was stretched out on the field, with trainer Rod Martin working on an ankle.

–Other than a few shoves, the first scuffle of camp broke out between center Jake Grove and linebacker Kirk Morrison. At the same time, a few yards away, Cornell Green took exception to being put on the ground by Jay Richardson during a light drill in which players are urged to stay upright.

– The Raiders began the evening practice in pads but switched to light "spider pads" after an hour and 15 minutes.

– Nnamdi Asomugha came up withi the camp's best interception on a leaping grab of a fade pattern thrown by Jake McCown to rookie Johnnie Lee Higgins. Asomugha snared the ball at the top of his leap, just above the jumping Higgins.

Moments earlier, Higgins had responded to scoring a touchdown in a goal line drill with a windmill jam over the goal post.

– Morrison concluded practice with an intercepton of an Andrew Walter pass that went nowhere near a receiver.
 
July 30, 2007

Meanwhile back in Napa


NAPA - As for tonight’s practice, there were some interesting moments:

*Cornerback Chris Johnson tried to jam Mike Williams at the line of scrimmage while giving up at least 40 pounds to Williams. Johnson ended up on his backside and Williams made an easy catch.

*Speaking of Williams’ weight, Lane Kiffin wants him to play at 235 pounds. He’s not sure how close Williams is to that weight and neither is Williams.

*Center Jake Grove and linebacker Kirk Morrison got tangled up and scuffled briefly. Grove’s helmet came off after the two rolled on the grass, making it the most exciting dust up of camp.

*Morrison got his revenge in a seven-on-seven drill, leaping to snag an Andrew Walter pass for an interception. It was reminiscent of the pick he had in Baltimore.

I expect Morrison to have a big season and contend for Pro Bowl honors. Ray Lewis and Zach Thomas aren’t getting any younger and it’s time more new names started popping up for the honors.

Well I'm going home to watch the rest of Monday Night Raw and play some NCAA Football on the PlayStation. By time I arrive tomorrow, the Raiders could have their big, strong-armed quarterback in the fold.

But it would be Daunte Culpepper. You've got to love a guy that quotes Ghandi.

--Jason Jones
 
Well I'm going home to watch the rest of Monday Night Raw and play some NCAA Football on the PlayStation.


Nothing screams credibility quite like fessin up to a night of rasslin and video games... Raider beat writer or date night at Arkies?...
 
Would be nice to hear that one of our O linemen knocked someone on their ass instead of the other way around. I hope Cable knows something we don't:bugeye:
 
Would be nice to hear that one of our O linemen knocked someone on their ass instead of the other way around. I hope Cable knows something we don't:bugeye:
Maybe I am wrong didn't someone say Newberry and Gallery both were pushing guys around.....???
 
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