The QB Thread [2024]

[007]

Only because I doubt he gets canned @Chris_77 lol.

 

[Raidermania12]

The Commanders had a complete rework of ownership and overall structure. The good environment still holds true as they are a collective bosses who got Kingsbury and a solid defensive coach to handle things.

Yes Jayden is talented and may have overcome it regardless. But we did say those assets exist. They are extra rare though. Is there a Jayden in this draft? IMO no. But I’m gonna keep saying I’d love to be wrong about that if we are the ones picking.

You know what builds the culture? talent.

Jayden Daniels suddenly transformed the culture of the Commodores through his abilities.

 

[Chris_77]

Mark isn’t going anywhere so getting lucky with a franchise altering GM/HC/QB is the best we can hope for, with the latter the most likely since (hopefully) Mark won’t actually be the one picking him. It’s just the reality of being a Raider fan at this point.

 

[Chris_77]

Only because I doubt he gets canned @Chris_77 lol.

You’re correct, which makes this all way less enjoyable.

 

[Raidermania12]

Mark isn’t going anywhere so getting lucky with a franchise altering GM/HC/QB is the best we can hope for,

If this is true, then we are gonna fuck that up too.

 

[Chris_77]

If this is true, then we are gonna fuck that up too.

Probably, yes.

 

[Raidermania12]

Probably, yes.

I haven’t seen enough of Tekesco’s work to buy that yet. He seems to know talent better than the previous 2 GM’s. And he’s suffered some really bad coaches outside of his choice I assume(actually lesser than AP).

 

[DonkeyKilla]

I'm with you guys saying Tom T isn't going anywhere. If that's the case we just have to hope he's up to the task of picking a new coaching staff, and hopefully Mark doesn't pinch pennies on him. I believe that was part of his problem with the Chargers, cheap owners. Mark is flush with cash... hopefully we throw it at that OC from Detroit.

 

[Chris_77]

So basically, a whole lotta hoping.

 

[DonkeyKilla]

So basically, a whole lotta hoping.

Or we can just admit there's no hope but what's the fun in that?

 

[raiderfreak7]

So basically, a whole lotta hoping.

It's all we have left.

 

[Chris_77]

Or we can just admit there's no hope but what's the fun in that?

I hope that we get lucky with a GM/HC/QB at some point.

 

[Handicapper General]

we have to even hope Mark lets him pick coaches. Reggie's the only one when he was first hired. Mark's gonna hire his own again.

 

[RF34]

 

[Crossbones]

Sorry, not watching that fool.

 

[godeep811]

Sanjit take….

 

[1-800-Raider]

I mean what does infrastructure to succeed even mean? To me it's- solid coaching staff, OL, some weapons. These are not things that can't be overcome. One thing I do agree with though, pairing a rookie QB with AP and Getsy would be dumb and might ruin the kid. We are going to have to make a good hire at HC/OC.

Building a culture is a little more than creating infrastructure. Here are 3 things just off the top of my head....

- It incorporates a belief system. A belief that the owner and front office are going to build the best roster year after year.... a belief that the coaching staff will put together the best game plan week in and week out.... a belief that your teammates will bring their A game every Sunday.... etc, etc, etc. Right now, we're the exact opposite of this and have been for decades.

- A culture incorporates a real identity. The Raiders at their peak had that, and everybody inside the building and outside the building knew it. We were a renegade culture that played a very distinctive style of football.... big, fast, physical, and obviously the deep ball. Compare that to us now... what is our identity? What kind of football players are we really looking for? We really seem like a bunch of random guys just collecting pay checks.

- Culture has to be built top-down. The owner has to set the personality and have the vision of what he wants his team to be. The Lakers under Jerry Buss had that. He knew the style of basketball he wanted to play, how he would build the team, how he would get the city to become a basketball city, etc, etc, etc. He singlehandedly set the tone for everything... and won for 30 years doing it the same way even with different coaches and players. Once he passed, his kids had no clue what to do, or how to do it.... and the Lakers are a shell of what they used to be.... Mark Davis has destroyed the Raiders in identical fashion..... top-down.

 

[Raidermania12]

Sanjit take….

Reminds why he’s blocked.

 

[Raidermania12]

We need to have a structure in place for any position to succeed and we still draft other positions every year. Why should we ignore the QB position because Mark is incompetent?

Commanders success is organizational. As Magic isn’t into dysfunction.

 

[Solve4X]

Commanders success is organizational. As Magic isn’t into dysfunction.

What does that have to do with us? Unless Magic is buying the team. I think we should address the position before Mark dies.