The Not Too Early 2025 Draft Thread

DonkeyKilla said:
He's a true two way player. Woodson was a two way player but really was a corner that took some snaps on O.
Would love to have this guy on our football team but QB first. If for some reason we don't get the top spots for QB he'd be a good consolation prize.
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A corner at 3?
 
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raiderfreak7 said:
I don't think I've ever been watching college ball this early due to how shit we've been and about 90% of it is QBs. I've started looking at RBs more, too. I'm admittedly tunnel vision for a QB right now, this franchise needs one in the worst way and drafting top 3 is best case scenario for us so I've spent most of my time there.

I'll flat out say that I disagree with anyone calling this a bad QB draft. Cam and Shedeur are legit top 5 QB prospects and are going to be good in the NFL. Will they be elite QBs? Maybe, maybe not. It's tough to compare draft classes but at the very least I'd have both of them over McCarthy and Nix from last year just as prospects. And, honestly, I might have them both over Penix due to his age and injury history. Hell, I wasn't even all that keen on Maye last year and I'm still not sold on the guy and I know it's unpopular to think Ward might be over him.

Williams and Daniels were clearly in a tier above all of them, though.

Gun to my head I'd probably rank them...

1) Caleb Williams
2) Jayden Daniels

3) Cam Ward
4) Drake Maye
5) Shedeur Sanders
6) Michael Penix
7) JJ McCarthy
8) Bo Nix
9) Jalen Milroe

It's just my opinion and it's probably unpopular but that's how I see them all pre-draft with no use of retrospect in seeing how the 2024 class is playing now. This class is getting knocked because there's no 'elite' QB but you can still land a franchise QB in Ward or Sanders.
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When the 3rd best QB this year is the 9th best of the last 2 years, it’s a bad QB draft. Cam and Sheduer being legit top 5 prospects doesn’t mean much if we can’t draft one of them.
 
DonkeyKilla said:
Would you take Woodson at 3 if the good QBs were gone?
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I would have in 1998, but the game has changed too much. I’m of the mindset that you pour everything on defense into a monster pass rush that turns average corners into All-Pros. I don’t believe in taking corners in the first round anymore.
 
boknowsvt said:
I would have in 1998, but the game has changed too much. I’m of the mindset that you pour everything on defense into a monster pass rush that turns average corners into All-Pros. I don’t believe in taking corners in the first round anymore.
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The league doesn't agree with you... I'm in the get good players camp. Travis Hunter is a stud that you don't pass on for a lesser player at some other position, and corner is still a premium position as is WR.
 
DonkeyKilla said:
The league doesn't agree with you... I'm in the get good players camp. Travis Hunter is a stud that you don't pass on for a lesser player at some other position, and corner is still a premium position as is WR.
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I’m not sure. I can’t think of any corners who are difference makers. Sauce Gardener is horribly overrated.
 
boknowsvt said:
I’m not sure. I can’t think of any corners who are difference makers. Sauce Gardener is horribly overrated.
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Surtain makes a difference on that Donkey squad. Jets are just a bad team, Sauce can play. The two dbs the Eagles drafted turned that defense around. You need both (pass rush and cover). We have some pass rushers assuming we bring Koonce back and Wilson continues to improve.
 
Chris_77 said:
When the 3rd best QB this year is the 9th best of the last 2 years, it’s a bad QB draft. Cam and Sheduer being legit top 5 prospects doesn’t mean much if we can’t draft one of them.
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Last year was an anomaly though with a record breaking amount of QBs going in the first round. Compared to most years having two top 5 QB talents and another 1st round talent is at least an average class.
 
raiderfreak7 said:
Last year was an anomaly though with a record breaking amount of QBs going in the first round. Compared to most years having two top 5 QB talents and another 1st round talent is at least an average class.
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About every 2-3 years there is a draft that has multiple highly rated prospects. 18, 20, 21, 24 were good QB drafts (in realtime).

So I guess the question is… is this a good draft if you’re looking for a QB? Not IMO. We could end up with the 3rd overall pick and be fucked.
 
DonkeyKilla said:
Surtain makes a difference on that Donkey squad. Jets are just a bad team, Sauce can play. The two dbs the Eagles drafted turned that defense around. You need both (pass rush and cover). We have some pass rushers assuming we bring Koonce back and Wilson continues to improve.
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I think the Broncos lead the league in sacks, which might make Surtain look better than he really is. I don’t want a corner at 3. I’d much rather trade back, but I get what you’re saying.
 
SSH401 said:
The top talent in the draft at 3
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Yeah. If you have the opportunity to take one of the very best players you do it, Travis is a blue chipper. Might be one of only a couple that would be considered that.
 
Field Yates of ESPN....

14. Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 215
Sanders is a supremely talented pocket passer, displaying accuracy that goes beyond what completion percentage measures. He throws with great placement to allow his receivers chances to run after the catch. He ranks third with a 73.4% completion percentage but that still doesn't even do his accuracy justice.

I'm consistently impressed with Sanders' big-game mettle, as he has thrived in clutch moments for much of this season. He doesn't have a cannon of an arm, but there are so many elevated traits that have allowed him to thrive behind a shaky offensive line.

17. Cam Ward, QB, Miami

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 223
Ward is dynamic, combining a laser-fast release and rocket arm. He is innovative and can ad-lib a play while under duress, stressing the defense. He has to be more consistent as a pure thrower, especially with accuracy on layup throws.

Decision-making refinement will help unlock success at the NFL level, but his production is just too good to ignore. Ward leads the FBS with an 87.2 QBR and 34 passing touchdowns, and he has been incredible in late-game situations.

24. Jalen Milroe, QB, Alabama*

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 225
Milroe is the most impressive dual-threat quarterback in the class, and while he's still a work in progress as a pocket passer, he has made marked improvements. Milroe is one of the most explosive and powerful runners in college football, regardless of position (he has already set the Alabama single-season rushing TD record for a quarterback with 17).

He also has a strong arm that allows him to excel on vertical throws, and he continues to develop as both an anticipation and rhythm thrower in the short and intermediate areas of the field. Milroe has 15 TD passes and nine interceptions on the season. There are scouts I've talked to who believe he is the most difficult quarterback to defend against in this class.
 
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