The guy with no hands...

[Crossbones]

And meanwhile as Randy Moss and the rest of the Raiders struggle Doug Gabriel quietly is becoming the Pats best receiver...in just two games.

You tell me. the system sucks in Oakland. Brady helps but our system turns this guy into a vaulable weapon.

 

[Rupert]

What's that TRGT stat? Seems relevant somehow. That's it, it's how often he was a target. Only caught a pass 45% of the time he was a target. Is that good or bad? Only Reche Caldwell is worse on their team.

 

[Crossbones]

What's that TRGT stat? Seems relevant somehow.

I don't give a damn what it is. But the point is clear.

Gabriel's hands aren't that bad. He's going to prosper in NE and he couldn't here? I think it's because of the way we used him and the system we're trying to force. Bellick knows what he's doing and Brady knows how to get the man the ball.

 

[Rupert]

Actually, I think the point is clear when you know what the stat is.

 

[Turo]

It's not that bad of a number at all. That doesn't equal drops, it also equals bad passes, passes thrown into the stands, passes deflected, intercepted.. whatever. All it means is that he was identified as the probable target for the play.

 

[Rupert]

I don't think you're reading what I'm saying. You're making assumptions.

 

[Turo]

I've got news for you bro, unless you say what you mean and are clear about it, people are forced to make assumptions about what you are implying. Sure, it seems clear that you're trying to say that he's dropping a lot of balls, but unless you come out and say what you're getting at, don't be sore if we misunderstand your intent.

I'm merely trying to explain what "targeted" means, in the event that you're not clear. Targeted does not mean "hit him in the hands". It just means that he was the likely intended target on that particular play, which is an important statistic for fantasy players who work on probability of catches and TDs based on number of opportunities per player.

 

[Rupert]

I said exactly what I meant and nothing else. Everything else was added to my comments by you. You're assuming what I'm saying when all I'm stating are the known facts. Bones tried to make the stats say something they don't. I'm making sure we're not jumping to conclusions, but now you're jumping to conclusions about what I'm saying. Stick to the facts please. I know exactly what targeted means and don't need the remedial lesson.

 

[Turo]

LOL! You ever catch that old Johnny Carson skit about Copper Clappers?

Oh, Roop. Don't ever change, man. I love ya.

I said exactly what I meant and nothing else.

And you said... what?

Actually, I think the point is clear when you know what the stat is.

You never stated what "the point" was, in your opinion, thus forcing the rest of us to make assumptions about what "the point" you were inferring, actually was. So please, don't get all self righteous about other folks assuming what you meant, when you fairly well mandated it. Come on man, loosen up a little. As for understanding or not understanding what "targeted" exactly means, you seemed to not be all that sure initially, so I thought I'd help you out if you weren't clear. If you're clear, then you're clear. No biggie.

Relax, bro.. it's not going to get you audited by the IRS or voted off the island to drop down a gear out of uber-debate mode, I promise.

Late,

~T.

 

[Angel]

I'm not too sure Randy Moss wants to play with you guys anymore either

 

[Rupert]

Turo: as usual, you make assumptions. I made a simple statement of fact and you want to assign an opinion to what I wrote. Then you want to tell me I need to state an opinion. Dude. You need to get out of argument mode. Same old Turo can't just take what's given at face value.

 

[Crossbones]

Another thread going nowhere. I'm not liking the tone of these debates.