The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly - Week 4

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The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

Week 4 – Oakland v Cleveland
October 2, 2006
By Rupert Pollard

The Good

The first half. In true Raider fashion the Raiders had time consuming drives and quick strikes. Okay, I’m stretching the truth. There were only two time consuming drives. They took a about 8 minutes off the clock, spanned a whole 17 plays, netted 39 yards, and resulted in 2 punts. Still, the defense actually got to make a portion of the bench warm and get a couple swallows of sports drink before having to go back in to the game. Two quick strikes put touchdowns on the board. That is really the Raiders offense of old, burn the clock in futility and put points on the board by striking fast.

The offensive line put together its best pass protection of the season and blocked well enough to allow Jordan and Fargas to amass 194 rushing yards.

Derrick Burgess collected two sacks, marking the second time we’ve had one player collect our only two sacks in a game this season (Sapp against Baltimore). While this is not good, it’s nice to see pressure coming from different guys every week. The next step is to get them to do it in one game.

Sam Williams took the first Cleveland turnover into the end zone. SCORE!!! Someone has been preaching opportunistic defense and turnovers, and it looks like we’re starting to get it.

Nnamdi Asomugha decided that poor throws by an opposing QB are actually supposed to be caught by Raider DB’s. He collected two: one to disrupt a quick strike opportunity, and another to foil a potential game-clinching drive.

The running game. Fargas looked sharp getting width and making explosive cuts. He rattled of 48 yards on one carry with this approach. After Fargas’s example, Jordan decided he needed to emulate his young backup and ran more decisively. Wouldn’t you know it, he rumbled for a 59 yard touchdown by being more aggressive.

The Bad

How about all those dropped/missed passes? 68 yards passing might be a combination of the drops and the effective running game, but it’s also a sign of a passing game in its infancy. I guess we’re going to continue to see that until receivers get used to Walter, or until they get used to Brooks again. Not too pleasant an idea either way, but those are the growing pains of a rebuilt offense.

We still gave up four sacks. Maybe Cleveland’s front seven are half as good as San Diego or Baltimore. No matter what, four sacks in a game might not kill you, but they’ll put undue pressure on your QB and eventually wear him out. Four per game would add up to 64. Who wants to put their QB on his back that many times? No-one, that’s who. Considering Cleveland about half as good as the first two teams we played means our pass protection hasn’t really improved. Keep working guys.

The defense again allowed late half drives. In the fourth quarter they were able to forestall the inevitable by picking off a pass made under duress in the end zone, but when they needed a stop to get one more shot at tying the game, they gave up 15 yards, 9 yards, and then a first down to let Cleveland run out the clock. Do we lack enough talented depth to give players time to catch their breath along the front seven? Is it a conditioning problem for the kids? Regardless, it’s a trend that needs to be stopped. Blame the offense’s poor time of possession if you want, but at some point you have to try to compensate for it. If it’s the depth, I can accept that, but I don’t see much of a rotation nor do I see much balance in it. I could be wrong, it’s juts the impression I get.

The Ugly

Walter trying too hard to get the ball to a covered Randy Moss. Some day these two will get on the same page. Until then, it’s going to look more than a little forced. Of course the TD connection was sweet, but it wasn’t the product of anything other than playground execution.

So the offensive line helped the running game get 194 yards, yippeeeeeee!!! But not being able to convert fourth and inches when the game is on the line is inexcusable. You can question deciding to go behind Langston Walker. You can question using a stretch play across the dirt of the infield. And you can question not putting Foschi in and letting Crockett charge up the gut. I see it as the offensive line not executing in a critical situation.

The capping ugliness was our kick coverage. Cleveland started at our 32 before converting a field goal (the winning margin by the way). They started at the Oakland 43 before collecting a touchdown to go into the half within 11 points. And we set them up at our 17 before giving up the go-ahead touchdown. I couldn’t have imagined that one mistake in coverage last week would wind up as three this week.

All I know is this team won’t improve until the can eliminate the truly ugly and minimize the bad.
 
I'll echo the sentiment regarding our special teams. What looked to be one of our few strengths in games 1 and 2 totally unravelled in game 3. Jano and Lechler were nails as usual, but the coverage teams just got tooled.

It was good to see rushing yards come, but to be honest, they felt a little bit empty because if not for 2 or 3 big gainers, the rest of our rushes were stuffed completely which does not equate to a real running game. If we're to be competitive, we need a legitimate 4 yards a pop, not a statistically inflated YPC.
 
Walter trying too hard to get the ball to a covered Randy Moss.

Hardly an issue if Moss puts forth even a little effort.

Anyone wanna buy a Moss replica jersey? Make me an offer.
 
Turo: On the running game, not true at all. We had 3 BIG plays and 5 <= 0 plays. Let's eliminate them all shall we? What we have left is: 77 yards on 16 carries, or 4.8 yards per carry. Dude, that's running the ball well. I don't care how you slice it.

Still, Cleveland is not a good run stopping team, and we proved we can run the ball against a bad run defense. It's supposed to happen. So at least that part of the game works under those circumstances.

Crow: Randy Moss made the little effort on one play to prevent an INT, but just barely. He stood and watched while the CB made a second effort that almost collected the ball. Randy, Randy, Randy.

And no thank you, I don't want a Randy Moss jersey, even for free, since I won't ever be able to use it to wash the car.
 
Rob said:
Rupert I'm not feeling any better.
Oh Rob...you're so negative. :p :p :p

And let's not forget our sellar defense...4th and 8; 3rd and 13 we give up two critical first downs.

Yeah we got plenty of issues on offense, defense and ST. Oh and we don't want to leave out the coahing staff. They haven't got a clue.

I didn't realize just how bad that spot was on Curry's reception. And Art Shell never asked for a review? That is inexcusable. I don't care what anybody body in the booth said, you have that play reviewed. It was CRITICAL.

And I watched the replay of the 4th down play...sickening. We didn't block the dude. He shot the gap and Jordan was dead doing his jitter bug dance. Bunch idiots.
 
Roop, I do believe you've run those statistics through the rose-colored washing machine one too many times. My entire point was that outside of three big gains, we didn't do much of anything for the rest of the game, which you need to do consistently. Removing all of our zero or negative yard gains from the equation doesn't do much in the way of evaluation of regular, consistent running.. which is what my point was all about. Without a consistent and reliable running game, the offense is going to sputter most of the game and the defense is going to wear down.

I don't care how you slice it, but averaging 3-ish yards a carry in all but your most successful homerun plays isn't going to cut it.
 
Turo said:
Roop, I do believe you've run those statistics through the rose-colored washing machine one too many times. My entire point was that outside of three big gains, we didn't do much of anything for the rest of the game...
Ding. Ding. Ding. Winner! :o
 
You would think Curry would stop and look at the spot. Than run back and tell Art or someone to throw the flag. But he did'nt, he just ran back to the huddle.
 
Ummm, no. Ding ding ding. Loser. Total BS. Look at the drive charts. We had pretty good gains the whole game. Were we unable to sustain it? Yeah. Did we go away from it in the second half? Yeah. You wanted us to wash the whole thing through s#!t-colored glasses by taking out the big gains. Why is that? When I return the favor and take out the losers it's a no-go. That's just biased statistical reporting in my opinion. And it simply creates a negative assessment that is wholly inaccurate.

Right now we don't have a consistent anything. Have I once claimed otherwise? No. I've been saying all along we're not executing consistently, but for some reason people keep trying to paint me as an idiot when I don't go along with their negative assessments. Sorry, when your assessment is fallacious, expect me to object.
 
Rob said:
You would think Curry would stop and look at the spot. Than run back and tell Art or someone to throw the flag. But he did'nt, he just ran back to the huddle.
I think it's Art's job. He said somewhere "I didn't see the play" when asked about it.

Scary.
 
Rob said:
You would think Curry would stop and look at the spot. Than run back and tell Art or someone to throw the flag. But he did'nt, he just ran back to the huddle.
Unfortunately, that's what were were drilling our guys to do for 2 weeks. Damn, it was pretty to see how quickly we got to the LOS. Next step, executing plays that consistently. :rolleyes:
 
CrossBones said:
I think it's Art's job. He said somewhere "I didn't see the play" when asked about it.

Scary.
Now there's something that's changed since he's been out of football. Dude, someone should have the responsibility of looking for challenges and making the recommendation. Make a note of it.
 
Sorry Rup I don't buy it.

We have no sense of what works in today's NFL but we continue to try and ressurect the past with a guy like Walsh. It's not working. It's not working for Brooks or Walter.

And the reason the big gains are an aberration is because we almost never get them. Not this year, not the past three years. We can't sustain drives and then we have a couple of bigs plays and you want to point to them as the team playing well? You think Jordan would have cut back behind the pursuit against San Diego. Not a friggin' chance. He's have been stopped for a 5 yard gain.

Let me say this again -- WE WERE PLAYING THE CLEVELAND BROWNS YESTERDAY.
 
Rupert said:
Unfortunately, that's what were were drilling our guys to do for 2 weeks. Damn, it was pretty to see how quickly we got to the LOS. Next step, executing plays that consistently. :rolleyes:
Getting to the LOS faster. That's something that has to be worked on at the NFL level? That's high school stuff. I would hope we're a little better than that a a coaching staff but apparently not.

Let me check my notes. Wait, I (the head coach) didn't see the play. Huh?
 
Yes, the Cleveland Browns. The team that came within one Int of beating the world beating Baltimore Ravens. You know the team. That one.

What about that beast Shawne Merriman? The one who attempted a bump tackle on Todd Heap to prevent the game winning TD? You know the guy. World-beating OLB. That guy. Thought his mere presense would knock Heap to the ground. Sorry dude, it's the NFL, you gotta wrap up most guys.
 
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CrossBones said:
Getting to the LOS faster. That's something that has to be worked on at the NFL level? That's high school stuff. I would hope we're a little better than that a a coaching staff but apparently not.

Let me check my notes. Wait, I (the head coach) didn't see the play. Huh?
You know, you gotta check yourself before you wreck yourself. I mean, come on. T.O. took those pills; there aren't any left in the drawer.

I'm exaggerating about the huddle issue, of course. Art didn't think he had to remind his players to get back into the huddle and get up to the line on time. And I don't think they did anything other than reinforce it during practice. Pace is everything in practice. Practice how you do it in the game. Obviously, they weren't working on pace in practice. Lesson learned. Problem addresed.

You know, it's an odd admission for Shell to make, but it's not surprising that he didn't see the play. How often did you see Gruden staring at his spreadsheet during the play? All the time. I bet there were more than a few plays he never saw. The head coach has many things to pay attention to. I think it's far more relevant that Art didn't have someone to inform him that he should challenge the play. I think that's something that the staff needs to address and correct. A birds-eye view on those things should have told them immediately whether the spot was correct. That's what being out of coaching NFL football for that long will do to you. No-one had that responsibility the last time these guys coached. Maybe he should ask the guys who were here last year what Norv did. At least that's a start.
 
His "staff" said not to challenge the play. BS...in that situation the HC must have that play challenged -- it's on him. No telling what the officials will do in that situation. The damn game was on the line. It's a lousy timeout you're probably not gonna need if you don't get that first down. Turns out that is exactly what happened.

As far as not watching the play that's BS too...at that point in the game, at that critical point he had nothing better to do that watch the play. It's his job. He's the guy in change and then to makle a stupid statemnt like "I didn't see the play" is just maddening.

It's all a smoke screen Rup..this coaching staff is out to lunch. Most everybod in the world seems to realize it but you want to defend them. OK...be my guest., I'm just not buying it. I told you that yesterday and haven't changed my mind since. This is a typical "I'm not crazy the whole world is nuts". :rolleyes:
 
Agree to disagree. I'm saying the whole world has jumped to a conclusion before the vote is in. I guess in your book (and the whole world's) Dewey won that election. I don't see him in the Presidential rollcall though.

Why isn't the whole world calling Romeo Crennel a bust? He was 6-10 last year and projects to 4-12 this season. No-one is calling him a bust (except Cleveland fans). It's just not equitable. There are many reasons to let this play out.

I don't remember any head coach making a challenge of a play that didn't happen right in front of him. The eyes in the sky almost ALWAYS tell him what to do. Sometimes a player makes a special appeal, but I'd bet he asks the guys up above what they saw. You've got a seriously unrealistic expectation of the head coach.

Do you know where that play was completed? I seem to recall Curry was on the east side of the field away from the coach with all the linemen between him and the play. How's he going to see that? How's he going to project the lines across the field? Impossible. Try it sometime. Go to your local H.S. and stand on the sidelines. See how much of a play you can see that happens on the other side of the field. It's very damned little.
 
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