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1 Miami - Vernon Gholston

2 St. Louis - Chris Long

3 New York Jets - Glenn Dorsey

4 Atlanta - Darren McFadden

5 New England (from San Francisco) - Malcolm Jenkins

6 Baltimore - Jake Long

7 Kansas City - Jeff Otah

8 Oakland - Sedrick Ellis

9 Cincinnati - Kenny Phillips

10 Chicago - Ryan Clady

11 Arizona - Leodis McKelvin

12 Denver - James Laurinaitis

13 Carolina - Matt Ryan

14 Detroit - Gosder Cherilus

15 Philadelphia - Oniel Cousins

16 New Orleans - Mike Jenkins

17 Buffalo - DeSean Jackson

18 Houston - Jonathan Stewart

19 Washington - Calais Campbell

20 Tennessee - Mario Manningham

21 Minnesota - Chris Williams

22 Seattle - Felix Jones

23 Dallas (from Cleveland) - Malcolm Kelly

24 Pittsburgh - Aqib Talib

25 Tampa Bay - Brian Brohm

26 New York Giants - Dan Connor

27 San Diego - Sam Baker

28 Jacksonville - Limas Sweed

29 Green Bay - Keith Rivers

30 San Francisco (from Indianapolis) - Quentin Groves

31 Dallas - Antoine Cason

32 New England - No pick

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33. Miami Dolphins – Kentwan Balmer

34. New York Jets – Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie

35. Atlanta Falcons – Andre' Woodson

36. St. Louis Rams – Marcus Harrison

37. Baltimore Ravens – Joe Flacco

38. Kansas City Chiefs – Tracy Porter

39. Oakland Raiders – Red Bryant

40. San Francisco 49ers – DeMario Pressley

41. Chicago Bears – Adarius Bowman

42. Cincinnati Bengals – Lawrence Jackson

43. Denver Broncos – Harry Douglas

44. Carolina Panthers – Derrick Harvey

45. Detroit Lions – Chris Ellis

46. Philadelphia Eagles – Ali Highsmith

47. Arizona Cardinals – Roy Schuening

48. Buffalo Bills – Trae Williams

49. Atlanta Falcons (from HOU) – Early Doucet

50. Washington Redskins – Craig Steltz

51. New Orleans Saints – John Carlson

52. Minnesota Vikings – Charles Godfrey

53. Tennessee Titans – Dre Moore

54. Cleveland Browns – Shawn Crable

55. Pittsburgh Steelers - Carl Nicks

56. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Andre Caldwell

57. New York Giants – Patrick Lee

58. Miami Dolphins (from SD) – Beau Bell

59. Seattle Seahawks – Barry Richardson

60. Jacksonville Jaguars – Thomas DeCoud

61. Indianapolis Colts – Eric Young

62. Dallas Cowboys – Chris Johnson

63. Green Bay Packers – Terrell Thomas

64. New England Patriots – Philip Wheeler
 
I may do the buddy thing later and edit in positions and explanations. But, for now, I'm off to bed.
 
Considering my 3 favorite picks are off the board, Ellis is a good pick.

Im not a huge fan of Red Bryant, as I've only seen a couple of games, but he does fill a need.

Any of Shawn Crable, Lawrence Jackson, Early Doucet, Bowman, Wheeler, Highsmith or Beau Bell would make me happier though.

I know you're on the 'draft all DL all the time' phase right now though.
 
If we had a 3rd round pick, I might have gone DE rather than DT. Maybe.

The more I think about it, though, the more I think that Dre Moore will probably go a lot higher. I may even put him in Red's spot the next time I do one of these. Good enough size, and he's one of those DTs whose deeds show up on the stat sheet.

As for Sed, I just hope he makes it to our pick. If we end up picking this low, we may be fucked and out of luck unless one or two QBs end up going ahead of us. Otherwise...
 
Round 1

1 Miami - Vernon Gholston / DE-OLB / tOSU
Someone always flies up draft boards during the offseason, and it looks like Gholston is going to be that guy this year. The prototype edge rusher, Gholston is a perfect fit for the 3-4. This pick simply screams Bill Parcells.

2 St. Louis - Chris Long / DE / Virginia
When 2008 rolls around, the Rams O-line should be healthy and clicking again. Offensively, injuries are their only major concern. Defensively, however, the same cannot be said. Jim Haslett's defense needs help on all 3 levels. Taking Long here is a huge step in the right direction, not only for what he does getting after the QB. But with the way he plays the run as well. Glenn Dorsey gets a long look, but in the end, Chris Long just makes too much sense.

3 New York Jets - Glenn Dorsey / DT / LSU
Sitting at #3 overall, you'd think that one of their top two rated players might be available. Such is life for the New York Jets. But, nevertheless, all is well. By taking Dorsey here, they dramatically upgrade a defensive line that has, to say the least, been underwhelming. Darren McFadden and Jake Long get some consideration. But in the end, it's Dorsey.

4 Atlanta - Darren McFadden / RB / Arkansas
QB? OL? Yes, and yes. Value? Talent? Game changing ability? Darren McFadden.

5 New England (from San Francisco) - Malcolm Jenkins / CB / tOSU
The 30 other teams should all take time out to write the Jets a thank you letter. If McFadden were available here, I have little doubt that the Patriots would have pounced on him. As it stands, they add the top rated DB on the board and protect themselves from Asante Samuel's inevitable bid to cash in as a free agent.

6 Baltimore - Jake Long / OT / Michigan
Regardless of who winds up under center, he's going to need better protection to succeed. Long may have the ability to take over for aging great Jon Ogden. Until then, they're going to be a very nice set of bookends.

7 Kansas City - Jeff Otah / OT / Pittsburgh
No explanation needed here. Once the best the league had seen in a decade, the Chiefs' O-line is struggling. Otah needs some developing, but also has the natural talent to reward some team for their patience.

8 Oakland - Sedrick Ellis / DT / USC
This is really the only logical pick here. It also may prove to be an amazing value, as some feel Ellis is the best D-lineman in this class.

9 Cincinnati - Kenny Phillips / S / Miami
The Bengals can truly go in any direction here. Drafting Phillips here serves to not only upgrade their overall talent on defense, but also to help protect the investments they've made at corner the last couple years. Can't play good zone defense without a playmaker at safety.

10 Chicago - Ryan Clady / OT / Boise St
QB is a popular choice here. But with guys like Donovan McNabb, Chad Pennington, etc likely entering the FA market, Chicago can afford to go that route for a signal caller and use this pick to beef up a sagging O-line.

11 Arizona - Leodis McKelvin / CB / Troy
A speedy playmaker who can make an impact on both defense and STs. Stock should soar after the combine.

12 Denver - James Laurinaitis / LB / tOSU
For years, the hallmark of the Denver defense was their LBs. With D-line and safety value non-existent here, "Little Animal" makes a strong selection.

13 Carolina - Matt Ryan / QB / BC
Matt Moore has done an admirable job at QB of late. But not well enough to convince the Panther brass that he's the guy. Getting the top rated QB this late pretty much defines the word "value".

14 Detroit - Gosder Cherilus / OT / BC
The Lions have all the makings of an elite offense, except where it matters. This pick is the fist step towards rectifying that.

15 Philadelphia - Oniel Cousins / OT / U.T.E.P.
A late riser up draft boards, Cousins may be able to give the Iggles that franchise LT they've been looking for.

16 New Orleans - Mike Jenkins / CB / USF
Jason Craft? Jason David? The only question about this pick is which corner they like best. I think Jenkins is the clear answer there.

17 Buffalo - DeSean Jackson / WR / California
Lee Evans has terrific upside. But until Buffalo can put a respectable threat on the other side, he'll never be able to produce consistently. Jackson may be too much like Evans (undersized speedster) to be the ideal compliment. But the value fits and the need is obvious.

18 Houston - Jonathan Stewart / RB / Oregon
The Teans OL could use an upgrade. But as most people understand, a strong running game can make the rest of your offense look a whole lot better. Stewart is a big-bodied back with the talent to enter the season as an early ORoY favorite.

19 Washington - Calais Campbell / DE / Miami
Andre Carter has had a superb season. But Phillip Daniels fails to impress. The Skins are another team with a lot of money tied up in their secondary. If Campbell can become more consistent, he can help make that secondary's job a lot easier, while also drawing attention away from Carter.

20 Tennessee - Mario Manningham / WR / Michigan
I am personally not a fan of Mario Manningham. The guy screams "diva", and as such, he's almost certain to become a headache. Still, he has an impressive body of work, his combine numbers should be really good, and VY needs someone to throw to if he's ever going to develop as a passer. Manningham's ability to get deep could open up the rest of the offense, finally making it a suitable compliment to their exceptional defense.

21 Minnesota - Chris Williams / OT / Vanderbilt
The Vikings like their O-linemen big. Their offense is build around being more of a man than the guy in front of you. The right side of their line hasn't held up their end of the deal. Williams will get the chance to start right away.

22 Seattle - Felix Jones / RB / Arkansas
The long predicted demise of Shaun Alexander has finally arrived. Since allowing Steve Hutchinson to get away, the Seattle offense has morphed from a downhill, power running attack to an offense that begins and ends on the arm of Matt Hasselbeck. Felix Jones is the type of gamebreaking athlete who can take full advantage of the respect the Seahawks' passing game receives, while also bringing back some of the respect their play-action game has lost of late.

23 Dallas (from Cleveland) - Malcolm Kelly / WR / Oklahoma
TO is still a horse. But Terry Glenn's durability is becoming an increasingly worrisome issue, while Patrick Crayton is a FA. Dallas would do well to retain Crayton's services. But planning for life after TO is still something they should consider, regardless of Crayton.

24 Pittsburgh - Aqib Talib / CB / Kansas
A physical DB who could shift over to FS. Had 4 receiving TDs on offense this year, so he has the hands for the interception no matter where you put him.

25 Tampa Bay - Brian Brohm / QB / Louisville
A nice fit for Gruden's "Gulf Coast Offense" and will have a season or two to learn behind the ageless Jeff Garcia.

26 New York Giants - Dan Connor / LB / Penn St
Is Coughlin a goner? If he is, what happens to Eli? Some may say QB here. I don't see it. Eli Manning isn't a bad QB. He is, however, in a bad situation. A new regime with a more QB friendly offense could be just what he needs. So, the G-men look to upgrade the defense. A corner would be great, but I think the value here is with Connor. With the smarts to play inside and the athleticism for the outside, the Giants have a lot of options as to how to best use this guy.

27 San Diego - Sam Baker / OL / USC
A value pick and local prospect. May bump inside to guard if he doesn't win the RT job in camp. A team with few needs, San Diego's O-line play has room for improvement.

28 Jacksonville - Limas Sweed / WR / Texas
This is a pick I find myself second guessing. Still, with Ernest Wilford likely leaving as a FA and Matt Jones not progressing, Sweed makes for a good pick if you don't believe that Dennis Northcutt can be a longterm answer.

29 Green Bay - Keith Rivers / OLB / USC
Value is a beautiful thing. Probably a better fit on the weak side already manned by A.J. Hawk, Rivers has the skill to unseat inconsistent Brady Poppinga.

30 San Francisco (from Indianapolis) - Quentin Groves / OLB / Auburn
Manny Lawson and Tully Banta-Cain don't apply the kind of pressure needed to make a 34 defense successful. Clearly, the offense is the greater concern. But the best value offensively is at QB, and I'm not convinced the 9ers are ready to admit their mistake in Alex Smith. The D-line also needs to be addressed, but there's depth there that doesn't exist at rush linebacker. A healthy Groves could go much, much higher, so Mike Nolan (Mike knocks on wood) gets his QB terrorizer.

31 Dallas - Antoine Cason / CB / Arizona
A playmaker. Needs to run better than expected to secure a 1st round grade. Probably a better fit for a Tampa-2 style defense. But Wade grabs a guy who can take advantage of the pressure his front 7 creates.

32 New England - No pick
 
Round 2

33. Miami Dolphins – Kentwan Balmer / DL / North Carolina
Some talented youth for an aging, and likely-to-be-blown-up D-line.

34. New York Jets – Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie / CB / Tennessee St
Could have gone much higher. Almost had him go to Dallas. Instead, the Jets grab the small school star to further upgrade a weak defense.

35. Atlanta Falcons – Andre' Woodson / QB / Kentucky
How about this for luck? Years ago, Atlanta made a trade that netted the Chargers LaDainian Tomlinson and Drew Brees. This year, the Falcons try their hand at that strategy with McFadden and Woodson.

36. St. Louis Rams – Marcus Harrison / DT / Arkansas
Adam Carriker, Chris Long, and now, Marcus Harrison. Lots of D-line talent to play with in St. Louis now.

37. Baltimore Ravens – Joe Flacco / QB / Delaware
Could end up being this year's Jay Cutler.

38. Kansas City Chiefs – Tracy Porter / CB / Indiana
Law and Surtain are as old as they are talented. Porter gives them someone to groom for the very near future.

39. Oakland Raiders – Red Bryant / DT / Texas A&M
Anyone who's seen the Raiders play defense understands the reasoning behind taking a DT in the first two rounds. Sapp is all but done. Terdell Sands has been a bust since getting his new contract. Gerrard Warren and Tommy Kelly flash ability, but neither can be counted on as a starter. Pairing this plugger next to the penetrator Ellis not only solidifies the interior defensive line, but also frees up the Raiders' athletic LBs and undersized DEs to make plays.

40. San Francisco 49ers – DeMario Pressley / DL / NC St
Bryant Young's long and outstanding career appears to be over. The 9ers ask Pressley to fill his extremely large shoes.

41. Chicago Bears – Adarius Bowman / WR / Oklahoma St
Berrian is gone and Moose is aging quickly. A healthy Bowman gives their QB (McNabb?) a big target to look for.

42. Cincinnati Bengals – Lawrence Jackson / DE / USC
After passing on D-line help earlier, the Bengals land a DE who may remind some of Justin Smith.

43. Denver Broncos – Harry Douglas / WR / Louisville
Brandon Marshall's coming out party has been soured by stories of demands to be released. Even if Shanahan settles him down, there's a void opposite him. Douglas may be the verticle threat that Ashley Lelie was supposed to be.

44. Carolina Panthers – Derrick Harvey / DE / Florida
The Panthers' defense doesn't get the pressure from the blind side that they once did. Charles Johnson hasn't looked like the answer, so they give Harvey the nod.

45. Detroit Lions – Chris Ellis / DE / Virginia Tech
Like the Panthers, the Lions need more pressure from their front 4. Ellis should be an immediate upgrade over James Hall.

46. Philadelphia Eagles – Ali Highsmith / OLB / LSU
A speedy, aggressive LB for Jim Johnson's attacking defense.

47. Arizona Cardinals – Roy Schuening / OG / Oregon St
Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm know where their bread is buttered. More beef for the offensive line makes the other 6 guys on the field that much better.

48. Buffalo Bills – Trae Williams / CB / USF
With Mike Jenkins on the other side of the field, Williams gets a lot of opportunities to make plays. More often than not, he answers the call.

49. Atlanta Falcons (from HOU) – Early Doucet / WR / LSU
Roddy White is starting to come around. Michael Jenkins is not. Doucet hasn't produced like most expected, but he has the talent to do the job. McFadden, Woodson, Doucet. When the Falcons defense comes back healthy and ready to play, they won't even recognize the offense they're coming back to. That's a good thing.

50. Washington Redskins – Craig Steltz / S / LSU
Steltz is a good player, and I sincerely hate to put him in this position. But the reality remains that Washington needs someone to pair with Landry in the deep patrol.

51. New Orleans Saints – John Carlson / TE / Notre Dame
Eric Johnson is a nice stop-gap player, but Brees needs a TE he can count on.

52. Minnesota Vikings – Charles Godfrey / CB / Iowa
Minnesota has an elite tandem of DTs. Their LBs are top shelf. If you want to beat the Vikings, you have to throw the ball. Unfortunately, that's even easier done than said. Adding a cover corner here should help.

53. Tennessee Titans – Dre Moore / DT / Maryland
The Titans' defense with Albert Haynesworth is stout. Without him, they're unremarkable, and that's putting it nicely. Will he be back next year? Can that big body give them 16 games a year if he does re-sign? Either way, Dre Moore's inexplicable slide stops right here.

54. Cleveland Browns – Shawn Crable / OLB / Michigan
Kamerion Wimbley was a terrific fit for Romeo Crennel's 34 defense. Now, he gets a tag team partner for the other side. In what most consider a disappointing season, Crable managed an unbelievable 26.5 TFL to go along with his 7.5 sacks. He looks custom made for the Brown's defense.

55. Pittsburgh Steelers - Carl Nicks / OT / Nebraska
The Steelers' offense is about running downhill and striking deep. Both will be made easier with an upgrade to the offensive line.

56. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – Andre Caldwell / WR / Florida
Galloway and Hilliard continue to defy Father Time, but even Jerry Rice woke up old one day. Gruden prefers veteran FAs for his offense, as they tend to be much quicker studies. But adding Caldwell here gives him someone to groom with Brohm with an eye towards the near future. Both should spend the better part of their rookie seasons working with the second team, which should allow them to develop great chemistry heading into 2009.

57. New York Giants – Patrick Lee / CB / Auburn
A cover man to compliment their outstanding pass rush.

58. Miami Dolphins (from SD) – Beau Bell / LB / UNLV
Parcells is going to get his 34 defense up and running before doing anything else, even if he's not coaching the team himself. Bell is a terrific all around LB who could play outside opposite Gholston or inside next to Crowder.

59. Seattle Seahawks – Barry Richardson / OT/ Clemson
Sean Locklear is a FA and may decide to test the market.

60. Jacksonville Jaguars – Thomas DeCoud / S / California
Sammy Knight is a short term solution. DeCoud could be the long term answer.

61. Indianapolis Colts – Eric Young / OL / Tennessee
Pass protection in Indi is slipping lately. Some youth and versatility for the OL is always a good addition.

62. Dallas Cowboys – Chris Johnson / RB-WR / ECU
With Julius Jones on his way out, Dallas needs someone to pair with Marion "The Barbarian". Johnson may be an even better fit at WR, so he'll provide Jason Garrett with a great new toy to play with in a lot of different ways.

63. Green Bay Packers – Terrell Thomas / CB / USC
The need for youth and depth at corner is widely discussed. This pick should help.

64. New England Patriots – Philip Wheeler / LB / Georgia tech
Another regular topic of discussion is the age of New England's LBs. Wheeler is a terrific athlete and playmaker who could step in right away if needed.
 
I know that C.Campell hasnt had a great year. BUt at 6'8 285 he is going top ten or very close. He is an everydown DE too. I wouldnt be mad if we drafted him at like #8 or so? I think he would help us more than Ellis honestly. We need some big beefy bodies on that DL. Ellis is nice but undersized a bit , cant Tommie Kelly play UT?
 
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I would also take James L form Ohio and plug him at MLB. Kirk and TOHO are OLB's.
 
1. Miami - J.Long
2. St.Lou - G.Dorsey
3. NY Jets- C.Long
4. Atlanta - M.Ryan
5. NE- J.Laurinaitus
6. Baltimore- Malcom Jenkins
7. KC - Ryan Clady
8. Oakland- D.McFadden
9. Cinci - V.Gholston
10. Chicago- Kenny Phillips
11. Arizona- C.Campell
12. Denver- Sedrick Ellis
13. Carolina- Andre Woodson
14. Detroit- Brian Brohm
15. Philly - D. Jackson
 
BigTron said:
I know that C.Campell hasnt had a great year. BUt at 6'8 285 he is going top ten or very close. He is an everydown DE too. I wouldnt be mad if we drafted him at like #8 or so? I think he would help us more than Ellis honestly. We need some big beefy bodies on that DL. Ellis is nice but undersized a bit , cant Tommie Kelly play UT?
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Not very well, so...I'd have to say no.

Kelly, to me, is a reserve.

And I wouldn't touch Campbell in the top 10, but that's just me. We already have run stopping DEs on the roster. No need for another.
 
BigTron said:
I would also take James L form Ohio and plug him at MLB. Kirk and TOHO are OLB's.
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Kirk at SAM would be a disaster. He's a Mike. He just needs some legit DTs in front of him like any other Mike. That's something we just don't have right now.
 
Crow said:
Kirk at SAM would be a disaster. He's a Mike. He just needs some legit DTs in front of him like any other Mike. That's something we just don't have right now.
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I agree.

Nice effort on the mock, would be a great draft for us... maybe sign a WR or two in free agency along with an O-lineman...

I also agree that there's no way Gholston will get past Parcells or Bilickeck.
 
I personally feel like Kirk isnt stout enough against the run. He doesnt have that power you need out of a MLB IMO. He is very good in coverage and has great instincts tho. I think him and Howard outside with a bigger MLB would help. Obviously having some monster DT's would help too but I dont think its the whole problem. As much as I love Kirk he got ran over just as hard as Huff did yesterday. Kirk only had two tackles against a team that ran the ball down our throat... and he had INT #5 or 6? I think he could play outside. He isnt a liability or anything, i just think a tackle machine brick wall MLB would help us vs the run. Thomas and Kirk have like 11 or 12 picks together this season. They can cover.
 
Crow said:
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And I wouldn't touch Campbell in the top 10, but that's just me. We already have run stopping DEs on the roster. No need for another.
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Classic understatement from a guy who didnt watch him play much, it sounds like.

Campbell had 3 of his 6.5 sacks against teams like FSU, Oklahoma and Virginia. He has 17 sacks in his last two seasons, led his team in TACKLES as a DE and is constantly in the backfield making plays, depsite consistent double teams. (33 TFL in 2 years? The dude is 21 nad hasnt played his senior year yet)

Meanwhile, everyones favorite DE prospect, Chris Long racked up 10 of his 14 sacks against vaunted O-lines like Wyoming, Middle Ten. State, Duke, North Carolina, Wake Forest and NC State.

He actually had less sacks against ranked opponents than Campbell. And we don't want to compare junior seasons, as Campbell still hasnt played a senior season. Long only had 4 sacks as a junior and 9.5 TFL's.

Campbell has the potential to be a top tier, complete DE in the Mario Williams/Julius Peppers mold, and although We couldnt go wrong with any DL prospect, Campbell would be a smart move considering our needs.

JMO of course.
 
Stats are pretty, but hustle is beautiful.
BigTron said:
I personally feel like Kirk isnt stout enough against the run. He doesnt have that power you need out of a MLB IMO. He is very good in coverage and has great instincts tho. I think him and Howard outside with a bigger MLB would help. Obviously having some monster DT's would help too but I dont think its the whole problem. As much as I love Kirk he got ran over just as hard as Huff did yesterday. Kirk only had two tackles against a team that ran the ball down our throat... and he had INT #5 or 6? I think he could play outside. He isnt a liability or anything, i just think a tackle machine brick wall MLB would help us vs the run. Thomas and Kirk have like 11 or 12 picks together this season. They can cover.
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And if there was a defensive scheme out there that used two WILLs, we'd be in good shape.

There's a lot more to playing outside than just being able to cover.

MIKEs need to cover too, ya know. That's the first piece of criteria zone-heavy teams look for in their MLB. Kirk would be a great fit in defenses like Chicago, Indi, Tampa, Cinci, etc. He's not a bad fit here. He just needs the same thing all LBs need: a friggin' DL to keep blockers off of them.

Ray Lewis played like shit when he lost his two fat boys. Brian Urlacher was a joke when his DTs were injured. Just for perspective.
 
Crow said:
Stats are pretty, but hustle is beautiful.


And if there was a defensive scheme out there that used two WILLs, we'd be in good shape.

There's a lot more to playing outside than just being able to cover.

MIKEs need to cover too, ya know. That's the first piece of criteria zone-heavy teams look for in their MLB. Kirk would be a great fit in defenses like Chicago, Indi, Tampa, Cinci, etc. He's not a bad fit here. He just needs the same thing all LBs need: a friggin' DL to keep blockers off of them.

Ray Lewis played like shit when he lost his two fat boys. Brian Urlacher was a joke when his DTs were injured. Just for perspective.
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I agree. He needs some help to be successful here. Just dont know if he is going to get it soon enough to sure up our run D. Those DT's dont come along easily. MLB's are easier to find. I believe a good LB like Kirk can be effective in any LB position. He can cover and is decent vs the run and has speed to go from side to side. Howard is also versatile enough do play either outside position. If we had C.Campell opposite Burgess and D.Connor in the middle after our Rnd 2 pick with Kirk and Howard outside I think our run D would be vastly improved. I just dont see where we are getting a new DT from. Other than Dorsey im not crazy about any of the other DT's in this draft. Our 2nd round pick would be a reach. Ellis is nice but we could use T.Kelly the same way.
 
Kirk isn't a great block shedder, so moving him outside to SAM would just be bad. Maybe as bad as Push Up Man playing there.

And while great DTs are a bitch to find, good ones aren't. We're in position to draft some good ones. If Al would just die, we could forget about big names on aging has-beens and add a decent FA to the mix as well.

I'd love to have a pair of All Pro DTs, but I'll settle for a couple of guys who play hard and handle their assignments. I think Kirk would feel the same way.

Campbell and Connor wouldn't do anything to improve our interior run defense. We have nothing inside. Nothing but role players and wasted roster spots.

Also, Kelly couldn't hold Ellis' jock if he had Terdell Sands helping him. Kelly's an alright player, but I think a lot of Raider fans are extremely unrealistic about what he brings to the table. Sure, he's a good run stopper at DE. But inside, he's lacking. A good reserve, but that's about it. If we ran a 34, I think he'd make a decent starting DE. But, since we don't, he's a backup.
 
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Raiderfan007 said:
Campbell had 3 of his 6.5 sacks against teams like FSU, Oklahoma and Virginia. He has 17 sacks in his last two seasons, led his team in TACKLES as a DE and is constantly in the backfield making plays, depsite consistent double teams.
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He's always going to fight the high expectations and the perception that he should be doing more IMO... With the size and athleticism, people were anticipating the kind of destroy everything in his path year Julius Peppers had at NC.... I don't think he'll ever be Julius Peppers, but he may be a Trevor Pryce type... I could even see a team moving him inside like the Vikes did with Kevin Williams... Get a couple of big bodies in free agency to play inside and Campbell opposite a platoon of Richardson and Burgess would work for me...



It's always interesting to see the line of thought people put into making mocks... Personally, I'd be shocked if a QB wasn't taken in the top 5, much less the top 10... and I think Derrick Harvey is way too low here....

I'm having a tough time falling in total love with a guy projected to go in the top 8... I've seen rumors of Jerry Jones giving up his two firsts and players to move up and get McFadden... I'm halfway hoping against all Al Davis logic that McFadden will be there and we could swing it... Their two ones, Pat Watkins, Bobby Carpenter and a future 1st RD pick?... Meh, I'm just dreaming but I'd love to see us massage this thing and come out with a bunch of extra picks in the second and third round that we can use on grunts like Dre Moore, Alex Mack, etc...
 
hawaiianboy said:
I'm having a tough time falling in total love with a guy projected to go in the top 8... I've seen rumors of Jerry Jones giving up his two firsts and players to move up and get McFadden... I'm halfway hoping against all Al Davis logic that McFadden will be there and we could swing it... Their two ones, Pat Watkins, Bobby Carpenter and a future 1st RD pick?... Meh, I'm just dreaming but I'd love to see us massage this thing and come out with a bunch of extra picks in the second and third round that we can use on grunts like Dre Moore, Alex Mack, etc...
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That would be a sweet deal. McFadden is a nice player, but I'm not sold on the hype either. I was more sold on Reggie Bush as an NFL prospect, but still had reservations about his ability to do everything. Bush at least did most of his damage in an NFL-style offense. McFadden didn't, but he has skills. He could develop into a prime back, but that's not usually what you ask of a high 1st-round RB. They're usually ready-made, except for a little blocking practice or route running.

But in Dallas, Marion the Barbarian and McFadden? Might be a very potent backfield. What 2TE's, 1WR, and split backs? Could be interesting.
 
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