Shoop, Trestman, Sarkisian, Martindale info...

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Take if for what it's worth as I have never found Corkran to be particularly dialed in the past... Shoop would be a major ballon pop :( ... Sarkasian has the makings of a future head coach... Affirmation of Martindale staying:


Shoop might top Raiders’ list for coaching vacancy

By Steve Corkran

Contra Costa Times
(MCT)

“Are you with me?”

It’s a phrase that echoed throughout the bowels of Oakland Raiders headquarters the last month of the season, over and over again. The words came from the mouth of offensive coordinator John Shoop as he quizzed his troops about his offensive game plans.

“Are you with me?”

Those are words that Shoop just might be saying to former Raiders offensive coordinator Marc Trestman right now or whenever Shoop meets with Trestman to gauge his interest in working for the Raiders next season, perhaps under Shoop.

Raiders managing general partner Al Davis has authorized Shoop to go to North Carolina in advance of Davis’ meeting with Trestman, if things progress that far,according to a person familiar with the search to find a replacement for Art Shell, whom Davis fired as coach Thursday.

A Trestman associate who requested anonymity said he could not confirm the development. Also, Trestman has expressed interest in the coaching vacancy at the University of Minnesota.

In other news, Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan has been granted an interview with Davis for the coaching vacancy. Also, San Diego Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron spurned the Raiders’ request for an interview.

Davis contacted Trestman on Wednesday night and asked him if he is interested in rejoining the Raiders, according to the Trestman associate. Trestman worked for the Raiders from 2001-03 and the 49ers from 1995-96.

Davis took 39 days before hiring Shell as a replacement for Norv Turner after the 2005 season. So far, it appears as if Davis isn’t wasting any time finding the franchise’s 15th coach—Shell served two separate stints.

Shoop has emerged as the early front-runner based on his experience with the Raiders and the hoops he jumped through last year.

Davis interviewed Shoop for the coaching vacancy a week before he met with Shell. Once Davis hired Shell, it was believed Shoop would be promoted from quarterbacks coach to offensive coordinator. Instead, Shell hired longtime friend Tom Walsh to resume the role he filled under Shell during their first go-round with the Raiders.Shell and Walsh got fired after the 1994 season.

Shoop had a falling out with Shell over the direction of the offense soon after Shell was hired Feb. 11. Shell demoted Shoop to tight ends coach.

Shoop resurfaced in a high-profile role after the Raiders scored only 132 points the first 11 games, and he replaced Walsh for the final five games. Shoop is far from a shoo-in as the Raiders’ next coach. Davis has a long track record of interviewing numerous candidates before making his decision.

Shoop doesn’t have any head coaching experience. Trestman is in the same boat. However, both have extensive experience as offensive coordinators.

Trestman spent the past two years as the offensive coordinator at North Carolina State University. He was fired along with coach Chuck Amato soon after North Carolina State’s season ended.

Whether the Raiders’ next coach receives the full backing of his superiors is questionable, according to Shell’s longtime agent, Danny More.

More said Friday that Shell was brought in to restore the Raiders to the glory of their past. However, that turned out to be “lip service.”

More said Shell set about rebuilding the Raiders by instilling discipline and leadership to a team that was in disarray under predecessors Bill Callahan and Turner.

“I’m not sure that’s what they really wanted,” More said in reference to the Raiders organization. “They said they wanted a hard-core program and structure, but once they saw that Shell was intense and tough, they weren’t sure if that’s what they wanted. Be careful what you wish for.”

Davis talks about things such as “commitment to excellence” and “pride and poise,” More said, and Shell tried to give those words meaning.

“He wasn’t going to waver in his belief in those things,” More said. “Those aren’t just slogans to him. He believes those. But certain people got blinded by things that don’t have anything to do with winning football games.”

Shell met with his coaching staff Friday morning, with Shoop not in attendance, and then left the team’s facility for his home. He has not been offered a front-office position and likely won’t accept one, a person in the front office said.

Either way, More said, Shell gave it everything he had this season. “It’s just unfortunate that the things said a year ago were not allowed to go to fruition,” More said. “The Raiders didn’t back a Raider. That’s the bottom line. They supposedly wanted a Raider to fix the Raiders. They didn’t stay the course. As far as support, let’s just say that it could have been a lot better.”

No other potential candidates have surfaced. However, it’s conceivable Davis could turn to longtime NFL coach Dennis Green, fired Monday as the Arizona Cardinals coach. Davis has interviewed Green in the past, and he might be tempted by Green’s success with high-maintenance wide receiver Randy Moss when both were with the Minnesota Vikings.

Green interviewed with the Raiders before Davis hired Turner in 2004. Green said in a conference call earlier this season that he enjoyed the experience.

“I had on my silver and black and all that stuff, and it went well,” Green said. “It’s always about the right situation and at the right time. I’ve got the utmost respect for Al Davis. There’s a lot of talent on that team because Al Davis can spot talent and still does a great job of it. It just didn’t work out. It’s always been not the right kind of timing for it.”

Also, Davis had interviews lined up with Jim Mora and Greg Knapp in 2004 before Mora accepted the Atlanta Falcons coaching job and added Knapp to his staff.

Finally, Davis is interested in bringing back former quarterbacks coach Steve Sarkisian in some capacity, according to a person familiar with the coaching search. Sarkisian worked for the Raiders in 2004. He is an assistant head coach and quarterbacks coach at USC, where he and Lane Kiffin share offensive coordinator duties.

Note: The Raiders signed linebackers coach Don Martindale to a contract extension. He reportedly was being considered for the defensive coordinator’s job at Stanford under new coach Jim Harbaugh.
 
Shoop, Trestman and Sarkisian. Looks like OC interviews to me. No word on any college guys. Meanwhile, other teams got guys like Rivera, Whisenhunt, Cameron and Chow coming in for interviews. Unless Ryan is the pick it seems like we're stuck in the mud as usual.
 
Trestman was OC last time I liked our O... I'd be OK with him at the helm but not excited. Just say no to Shoop at HC. I'd be OK with shoop at OC but never at HC.
 
I think Sarkisian would be a solid choice for OC. Trestman would be ok, but some of the playcalling was poor so I would want him matched with a HC who calls the plays. Shoop would be a last resort.
 
I can't believe Shoops name is being mentioned for the HC vacancy. That would be a major bummer. What has Shoop exactly done to be deserving of a HC position? What happened to this supposed "big news" Al was talking about? Looks like business as usual:mad:
 
Madturk said:
Looks like business as usual:mad:
I'm getting a little worried about this too. Unless what I heard is being done in the back alley...something wong [sic].
 
I think Denny Green and Mora will get a little consideration. Shoop? Not blowing my skirt up.
 
If we're promoting from within, I'd like to see Ryan get the gig.
 
Madturk said:
I can't believe Shoops name is being mentioned for the HC vacancy.
This is yet another validation of why all of Corkran's opinions should be banned from the Internet. I don't mind him reporting what is going on... but as soon as he adds his jackass opinion to the information, all of a sudden things like Shoop being a HC candidate emerge.

On a side note, Trestman reportedly flew out to Oakland last night... not the other way around as Corkran has been led to believe...

Here's the most impressive piece to the entire Shoop for HC propaganda....

Cockroach said:
A Trestman associate who requested anonymity said he could not confirm the development.
:rolleyes:
 
massraider said:
I think Denny Green and Mora will get a little consideration.


Unless I'm understanding things incorrectly which is certainly a a probability (shaddup TG), the Cards and Falcons would be responsible for the difference in salary should they get hired and paid less than what they would have made on their existing contract... I'm hoping that Al has learned not to limit his choices based on sticker price...

I was interested in Mora before he took that Atlanta job, but the guy didn't exactly prove himself graceful at the end there....

Just when I was building some enthusiasm back up this Shoop thing pops up... I've read in the past that Shoop reminds Al of Gruden :eek: ... but I do concur with Socal that both Corkran and Nancy Gay have been out of the info loop for awhile now...

Sarkisian would make a great OC... Unless Al still has a sales trick up his sleeve and a willingness to open up the checkbook, a HC Ryan, OC Sarkisian, DC Martindale grouping would probably be the best we could come up with...
 
didnt Mora jr offend the raiders by taking a job w/o even giving us a chance to interview him?
 
If we were offended, we had no right to be... Atlanta made a quick, decisive decision in hiring him... we would have made him come in 3-4 times to look at ink blots and shit...


The one thing that would be fun is if Mora brought Alex Gibbs from Atlanta with him... Those Bronco fans that like to point out it's in the rules when a cutblock hurts someone, may be singing a different tune...


David White says Shoop not expected to be kept on: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2007/01/06/SPGNLNDT671.DTL

Nancy Gay should be along soon to guarantee "Pat Hill is the hire"...
 
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hawaiianboy said:
...........Sarkisian would make a great OC... Unless Al still has a sales trick up his sleeve and a willingness to open up the checkbook, a HC Ryan, OC Sarkisian, DC Martindale grouping would probably be the best we could come up with...

I could see this happening. my only question is who thinks a Petrino, Tedford, Fassel or Dennis Green or someone else would be ok with being the O-Coordinator under Coach Ryan (my hero):D since he never had a HC job before? Just a thought?
 
hawaiianboy said:
Sarkisian would make a great OC... Unless Al still has a sales trick up his sleeve and a willingness to open up the checkbook, a HC Ryan, OC Sarkisian, DC Martindale grouping would probably be the best we could come up with...

I'd much rather rather see a young upstart like Sarkissian who's been involved with a major power like USC than bringing in Trestman or Fassil again. Not to mention the fact that he's worked with some pretty decent qb's.

I could live with this setup.
 
jatfly said:
I could see this happening. my only question is who thinks a Petrino, Tedford, Fassel or Dennis Green or someone else would be ok with being the O-Coordinator under Coach Ryan (my hero):D since he never had a HC job before? Just a thought?


Fassell would probably do it... Green's ego is probably too big to take 'the step down'... besides the drop in pay, I don't think Socal's boys Petrino and Tedford would want to be Indians when they are Chiefs now...
 
hawaiianboy said:
I don't think Socal's boys Petrino and Tedford would want to be Indians when they are Chiefs now...
:D

... but they sure could use the pro experience. Plus they get to learn under a very distinguished Rob Ryan. Looks like a win - win all the way around.
 
For the longest time I've wanted Lane Kiffin as OC. But he's such a good recruiter I think Carroll would have a heart attack if he left.

I wonder if Chow hadn't left for the Titans would Sarkisian still be here as QB coach? Maybe even the current OC instead of Shoop.

I'm assuming Ward is now the DB coach but still haven't seen an announcement.
 
The reason the Lions were able to sign Martz? Because they had a defensive head coach who didnt touch the offense and it was like being a second head coach as an OC. With Ryan as HC we can do something to that effect with a much better defense than the lions had.
 
A little something to add to the confusion.............

LA Times said:
USC's impressive Rose Bowl victory over Michigan has generated interest in Trojans assistants Steve Sarkisian and Lane Kiffin. Sarkisian, the Trojans' assistant head coach and quarterbacks coach, said Saturday that he will interview for the Oakland Raiders head coaching job on Monday.

"It's somewhat unexpected but a great opportunity and one I'm going to go for," said Sarkisian, 32, who was the Raiders' quarterbacks coach in 2004. "It's a tremendous organization, one that I'm familiar with.

"I know what's happening up there and I think I have a feel for it."

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-uscfb7jan07,1,955567,print.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true




The one thing I always respected about Wood is that he always shot straight from the hip.............

Charles Woodson said:
"They can't get anything going on offense," Charles Woodson said when asked to assess Oakland, "but I think (the man) upstairs is killing that team.


"When you have a slogan that says, 'Just win, baby,' you figure they'll do whatever it takes to win. And I know (the players) feel like they're not doing everything they can to win."

http://www.insidebayarea.com/bayarealiving/ci_4954902





... and just when you thought.............

KRT Wire said:
Oakland Raiders defensive coordinator Rob Ryan left team headquarters in the passenger seat of a sedan and gave the thumbs-up sign Friday. But he gave no indication whether his grin meant he could be the Raiders' next head coach.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/16400911.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
 
Charles should stop spending all of AL's money if he feels that way. Killing us, was paying him a mill per game and watching him loafing around in the training room for the last three years he was here. But at least he is on a winning team now. oh wait... spend your Millions Woodson you oft injured bust.
 
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