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I haven't really weighed in much lately and, you know me, I like to ramble on and cover a lot of subjects - whether already covered or not - so here is my semi-regular narcissistic "Random Thoughts" thread...

Coaching Search

Okay... so what I know to be true is that Steve Sarkisian interviewed, felt it went well, and that Pete Carroll thinks that the guy is pretty much gone. I also know that Rob Ryan interviewed on Friday and reports are that it went well. I also know that James Lofton is supposedly going to interview with Al Davis again, although it is being dismissed as a "Rooney Rule" interview. I know that Marc Trestman was interviewed early in the process. After that, I know that I've heard Jim Fassell mentioned, though I don't know if he did actually interview or how it supposedly went. I also hear Denny Green's name brought up, though I really don't see that happening.

Steve Sarkisian - Right now, the odds on favorite to win the job and I have to say that I'm warming to the idea. I think everybody in Raiderland likes the idea of finding the "next Gruden" just like we found the last one... and as a young offensive minded coach, that's what Sarkisian will always be compared to. I like the fact that he's stated that he's focused on getting the Raider job, too. That said, my worry is how he'll fare calling plays in the NFL. Let's be honest here, USC has backups that are more talented than most D-I schools' starters. Kinda makes it easier when the difference in talent is so heavily slanted in your favor. Also, I dig Rob Ryan and he's made no bones about the fact that he's interested in the gig... and I'd hate to lose him over this coaching hire, particularly if Sarkisian ends up not working out.

Rob Ryan - the guy revamped the defense and turned it into one of the best units in the league. His players love him and he's a fiery kind of guy. While the media at large tends to be dismissive on the grounds that Al likes offensive guys, our most famous coach of all (after Al, of course) used to coach linebackers. On the downside, it DID take him three years to get the defense playing ball... and that's his area of expertise. There's no way in hell that he'd get three years with an offense, so they'd better bring in somebody MAJOR as an offensive coordinator for him. Still, he's the horse that I'm backing at the moment.

James Lofton - I cannot lie and say that I know much about him, other than to say that he's interviewed for a couple of teams and supposedly come off well. Still, man... he's very green. While I don't think this is a "Rooney Rule" interview per se (because it is insulting to insinuate that Al freakin' Davis of all people would interview a minority candidate for the sole purpose of filling in a square on a checklist), I'd be very surprised if Lofton was the pick.

Marc Trestman - the only way I like Trestman is if Sarkisian is the head coach and Trestman serves as an offensive coordinator or some kind of offensive consultant. That said, adding Trestman pretty much kills any plan to commit to a running game, which would absolutely kill me!

Jim Fassell - Please, God... No.

Denny Green - while there is the intriguing idea that he could handle Moss' mood swings, that's about the only positive I can see coming out of this hire. I'd just as soon not go that route.

Other Coaches And Other Teams

Once Cam Cameron declined to be interviewed, everybody outside of Raider Nation was screaming, "Ha, that proves that nobody wants to coach in Oakland!" Well... now that Brian Schottenheimer has withdrawn his name from consideration in Miami, does that mean that Wayne "I've interviewed everybody with a pulse" Huizenga is an owner that "nobody wants to work for," too?

For that matter, does the fact that Scott Pioli rejected overtures from the New York Giants to become their General Manager mean that the Giants organization sucks? Does the fact that the New York Giants rejected overtures from Bill Parcells to become their General Manager mean that Bill Parcells can't recognize talent?

Of course it doesn't. I'm just sayin'....

Adrian Peterson

Brady Quinn is the most NFL ready quarterback in the draft!
JaMarcus Russell is a physical freak with a cannon arm!
Joe Thomas is a monster left tackle!
Calvin Johnson is like Randy Moss with a better temperment!

Yeah, yeah, yeah... fuck 'em. I'm still standing tall at the front of the Adrian Peterson bandwagon. As a Big XII guy (gig 'em Aggies), I've watched this kid run through, over, and around anybody that was put in front of him. Remember how highly rated Cedric Benson was? Fuck him, too. Adrian Peterson is a freakish blend of speed and power. The kind of guy that can punch it up the gut or take it to the corner. That's the kind of guy that this offense needs. And, before anyone takes my "freakish blend" comment too far, no, he's not Bo Jackson. Still, he's an amazing talent at running back and he's the one guy in this draft that could step on the field and IMMEDIATELY make this offense better.

With a strong running game, the offensive line immediately gets better. Yes, the same offensive line that sucked rocks all season long. Why? Because run blocking is pro-active, not reactive. You get a guy like Peterson and hammer away with him and get your linemen into the habit of mashing defenders into oblivion rather than trying to stop defenders from getting past them. Of course, this also presumes that our next coach does more than give lip service to re-establishing the running game in Oakland. "But, Stepper," you say, "we saw last season that this line can't run block either!" Okay, to a point... but I will say that Fargas looked pretty good towards the end, suggesting some improvement, and that I was criticizing LaMont's utter lack of explosiveness towards the line of scrimmage all year long. Trust me, Peterson isn't a kid that dances behind the line. Give him a hole and he's getting through it.

Further, the quarterback becomes better with a credible running threat. Phillip fucking Rivers made the pro-bowl this year, people! Yeah... a fucking first year starter who had bullshit receivers! And why did that happen? Because every defense was keyed on Tomlinson. I don't have to say it - you know it as well as I do. Well, I'm saying that Peterson can be that kind of player for us. Perhaps not "Tomlinson" but certainly a featured guy that other teams will HAVE to account for, thus buying our quarterback some much needed relief from the "blitz every down" attacks that they saw this year.

I'm telling you guys... Adrian Peterson is the guy. The rest of those guys aren't chopped liver and, yeah, we'll have to listen to "The Raiders passed on a franchise type quarterback again" smack talk... but fuck 'em. Adrian Peterson makes us a much better football team with a much more balanced offense the very second he steps onto the field. He's gotta be the pick.

The Return of the West Coast Offense... The Return of Andrew Walter?

First, let me get out the obligatory "Walsh's offense isn't the real West Coast Offense because the real West Coast Offense was born of Sid Gillman and is nothing at all like Walsh's system" disclaimer. That's just the plain truth. Old style "Raider Football" was true West Coast Offense (since Al Davis worked for, learned under, and respected the hell out of Gillman). That said, popular usage of the term has bastardized it into meaning "Walsh's offense" or, if you will, old style "49er Football." As such, I use it in the modern usage, much to my own bitter dislike...

That aside...

I posited the question a while back, when it first came to light that we were interviewing Trestman and Sarkisian, that perhaps we were looking at these "west coast offense" coaches in order to have a staff in place to make the best use of Brady Quinn. Upon further reflection, I wonder if we couldn't very well be making the move in an effort to better utilize Andrew Walter. When he was candidly criticizing Tom Walsh's offense and playcalling, wasn't he essentially asking that some of the tenets of "west coast offense' be implemented? Wasn't he asking for the quick throws and a greater involvement for the backs in the passing game? And, if so, couldn't bringing in somebody more "west coast" minded be geared not so much for best utilizing a player to be added to the roster, but to one that is already there?

Look, Andrew Walter looked pretty bad at times for the Raiders this year... but I still hold that any quarterback would have, so I tend to give him somewhat of a pass on that. Besides, he did start the only two Raider victories of the year... and this despite Art Shell's yo-yo game with starting quarterbacks.

I dunno... is Andrew Walter salvageable after the pasting he took last year? Did he even show enough to merit consideration? Is it reasonable to expect an improvement if he's put in a more "quarterback friendly" system?

Just something to think about.
 
Moss' Trade Value

I already made similar comments in the relevant thread, so I won't spend too much time belaboring the point... but I'll be shocked and angry if we send Moss off for a third round pick. I know people say, "His production hasn't warranted anything more" but the fact is that people make trades based on what they think that player will do for them. Additionally, I think everyone in the NFL recognizes just how fucked up the Raider offense was last year and they're likely to give Moss a pass on this last season. Even if there are 30 teams who think the guy has lost it, all it takes is one team to think he's still got it for a trade to go down. See also: Buchanon, Phillip.

Another thing to consider is what is more valuable to us: a third round pick or Randy Moss? I mean, does anybody think we're going to find Randy Moss talent in the third round of the draft? Hell no. So why not keep the talent? We already know that we're changing coaches, so although Moss wasn't pleased under Shell/Walsh/Shoop, there's nothing that says that he's permanently pissed, regardless of who we hire.

I say that if a compensation package is offered that doesn't include the words "first round pick" in it, we'd be fools to accept it. But that's just me.

Bronco Fan Statute of Limitations

I work with a Denver Bronco fan. He's a good guy and we talk football a lot and we're both very civil. Once in a blue moon, just to fuck with each other, we'll start running trash talk. Today was one of those days. As we go back and forth, he comes out with the inevitable "When was the last time you guys won the Super Bowl?" A few minutes later, he breaks out, "At least we won a Super Bowl recently."

Now, I have to ask... at what point does the statute of limitations run out on this bitch? If I'm living in the past, isn't he doing the same thing? Personally, I said, "Wait a minute... are you bragging about '97? '98? Watch it, man... you're starting to sound like a Raider fan. What was the price of a gallon of gas waaaay back then?" to flip it around on him. It worked.

Still... what is the statute of limitations? Can Raven fans crow about the one that they took home in '00 or is it time to "live in the now" when it comes to trash talking? How far into the future does "faded glory" shine?

The Chargers Lose With Class

First is was Tomlinson and now Shawne Merriman wants in on the action? Dude, just shut the fuck up!

I read some quotes from Merriman today where he was saying essentially that the Patriots should "act like they've been there before," seeing as how they've won three Super Bowls.

What?

They've got the rings that you don't have, so that means that when they do YOUR stupid showboat dance they're out of line? But, you, who can lay claim to nary a ring... you're cleared to put on your tap shoes or clogs or ballerina slippers or whatever the fuck you wear when you get ready to "get your sack dance groove on" and break out like some tourette's syndrome suffering Saturday Night Fever reject?

Get the fuck out of here, Shawne. Go pop a pill or something.

And, for the record, yeah... what the Patriots did was most certainly taunting and, no, I'm not usually an advocate for those types of things... but I have a real hard time being sympathetic when some showboat gets his own "moves" thrown right back in his face.

Player of the Year

Although there aren't a whole lot of Raiders to choose from for this, I think most people will lean towards Nnamdi Asomugha, Derrick Burgess, Robert Galler... okay, scratch that last one... anyway...

The guy that I'm saying is Oakland's player of the year is Chris Carr. Very good return numbers (which would have been better had he not had so infuriatingly many of his longer runs called back on penalties) but don't forget that he also took a Ben Roethlisberger pass 100 yards the other way for what turned out to be the score that ultimately beat the Steelers. Plus, I like giving a lot of credit to underdogs... and the undrafted free agent from Boise State - whom I spent some time criticizing this past off-season for his stubborn refusal to fair catch anything - certainly fits that bill.
 
Good stuff. I look forward to these threads.

Our player of the year was Burgess, Sapp or Asomugha though, not Carr.

Carr was 11th in the league in kick returns and 29th out of 32 on punt return average, without ever bringing one to the house.

Personally, I was hoping for more from Carr, but I do remember our special team's screwing him over with penalties.

P.S: You can officially put me on the...Johnson/Peterson/Quinn/Russell, but mostly Quinn or Russell bandwagon. Or a trade down. Or Alan Branch.

Wagon.
 
Nice to see you around again Stepper...

Another thing to consider is what is more valuable to us: a third round pick or Randy Moss? I mean, does anybody think we're going to find Randy Moss talent in the third round of the draft? Hell no. So why not keep the talent?


The obvious answer: Price tag...

$10 + million is steep.... and judging by some of his supposed comments, I don't think he'll be willing to do us any favors in this department...

It's simple for me... If we do in fact have plans to draft Jemarcus Russell, then whether the fans like it or not, then Al will have Randy Moss out there barring a holdout... Russell is the very kind of QB that fits with Moss...

* Speaking of Jemarcus Russell, Banter mentioned that Al would probably end up referring to him as Jemarcus Allen a few times... Damn if he didn't jinx me cause I've caught myself typing "Jemarcus Allen" three different times already...


* I for one am very excited about the prospect of Sarkisian coaching us... Norm Chow, Pete Carroll and Jon Gruden have all pegged him as a future head coach, hard to come better recommended than that... The popular notion is that we should start him as an OC... The flaw in that is that if we see him as head coaching material, we'd have to end up dumping yet another head guy down the line to get him there... We'd be in essence preparing him to be a head coach elsewhere...


* I like what appears to be Al's coaching plan so far... Get a bunch of young, innovative minds to handle the offense and leave the defense totally in the hands of Rob Ryan and Martindale...


* Right now I'm still an Adrian Peterson guy but that really depends on our opinion of Andrew Walter... If we're as down on him as some of his detractors, we may as well take a shot on the unique talent of Jemarcus Russell while we're in a position to do so... I think Peterson will be a horse, but it would be really nice to have a great QB again after the spares we've thrown out there post Gannon... I know I'm dreaming, but I'd love to somehow parlay Moss for Clinton Portis and then take a chance on Russell...


* While I am open to taking him, I am already annoyed with the cult that is Saint Brady Quinn... Alot of his fans seem to believe that everything good that went the Irish's way was because Quinn pulled the team up by the scruff of the neck and everything bad was because of the lack of talent around him... The guy had an awful game at the worst possible time... It's okay to just admit that... On the other side of the coin, I don't find it entirely fair that the lack of wins vs top teams is used against him so often... I don't know if that's a real great indicator of what kind of pro he'll be.... Guys that didn't want to draft Roethlisberger used his performance against Iowa against him and the guys that didn't want to draft Larry Fitzgerald used his performances against Miami against him...


* Just give me the Lil Al trophy now and get the inevitable out of the way...

* 24 looks like it'll be awesome this year... With my hammy down and out, I've probably watched more TV and spent more time on the web than I've ever have before... My family just leaves me back and goes about their business... My daughter gives me the "You snooze, you lose" taunt every time they go out the door... I tell you, I've got me some cold hearted women in my household, they even take the dog with them most of the time... Every time one of my wives friends calls, I tell them I hurt the hammy when our sex swing malfunctioned...
 
I think having Sarkisian would be of benefit to whatever QBs we have on our roster. I would certainly feel more comfortable drafting a QB with the number 1 pick with him on board than with the previous staff. I also like the philosophy of having young coaches who are desperate to do well, we just need to make sure we have enough experience there to help things out. I think we have done a good job with the overhaul of the coaching on the defensive side of the ball (we also added some fine talent which has helped) and I would like to see a similar thing happen on offense.

Trestman at OC could give us a tendancy to get pass happy then this would add another tick to the draft Adrian Peterson column as far as I am concerned.
 
I remember watching Peterson as a Freshman and thinking this kid looks like a HoF back. I have not ever changed my mind on this. It is rare, very rare, to find a guy who has breakaway speed and also the ability to just run over Lbers with ease. This kid is also a winner. Oklahoma with him playing is scary, without not so good. He is one player that instantly makes our team better now and potentially great later. It honestly comes as close as you can imo with a sure fire cannot miss pick. Every other guy available at the top has some question marks:

Quinn= is he able to play with the big boys?
Russell= will his rawness ever develop?
Calvin= will we even be able to get him the ball?

I stand by my thoughts that if we do not draft AP, I will seriously think about disowning this team. :mad:


-I am on board getting Sark as the coach. Our D was very solid and ST's were good enough. Our O is what kept us from being a decent team. I think Sark's O will translate as he is not running a gimmicky style O like Urban. He runs a pro style and he knows how to utilize talent. In other words, he gets the ball to his horses and lets his stars make plays. Such a novel idea.

-As much as people think Ryan might jump ship without the HC job, I disagree. He has spent so much time building this D and it is his baby. I just have a hard time seeing his jumping after all the work he did to get it here. Especially when it is a really young unit that will be solid for years. See Jim Johnson and Monte. I see Ryan being like that and not being so easily pulled away.
 
I'm all done worrying about who makes our team better instantly. Let's take the guy who is gonna make us better, period.

If we are going to take Peterson, right now a trade down seems like the move, otherwise it's a waste of a #1 overall. Someone in the top 10 is going to get a hard-on for Quinn or Russell, or maybe even the WR.
 
massraider said:
I'm all done worrying about who makes our team better instantly. Let's take the guy who is gonna make us better, period.

If we are going to take Peterson, right now a trade down seems like the move, otherwise it's a waste of a #1 overall. Someone in the top 10 is going to get a hard-on for Quinn or Russell, or maybe even the WR.
The only problem with this mass is I have a hard time thinking the Lions pass on AP if he is there. Basically, I would rather not gamble with the opportunity of getting cockblocked like we did with Orlando back in the day. We have a stud we need and should want and....we can get him. Why f around with that?
 
I think the Raiders will have a better sense of who they think teams will take as the draft draws closer.

I thin the Lions like K. Jones, and I think they'll be looking at Joe Thomas, Gaines Adams, and the QB's. We have 3 months for players to rise and fall, obviously, but right now, that'd be my guess.

I don't want the RB, anyway. I want the QB. I'd be happy with the RB, Peterson certainly seems like a special talent.

But I look at the way the Titans have been turned around by a rookie QB. That entire franchise is going in a different direction. With a guy that was considered 3 years away, dumb as a stump, with a weird release. Is that not immediate enough for people? Is someone going to tell me that Jamarcus is less ready than Young? No way.
 
Right now, I'd be happy with either Russell or Peterson. As noted in other threads, I'm an LSU guy and was never enamored with Russell until the 2nd half of this season but if a QB ever fit the mold of what Al Davis is looking for in a QB, Russell's it. He's a heck of an athlete and has a huge arm. He's also a pretty competent leader. At this stage, my only concern with Russell is his ability to read and pick apart NFL defenses. He does remind me a little of Vince Young only less of a runner and a better passer at this stage than Vince was last year... and we know how fond Al was of Vince.

Peterson's the "safe" pick in the sense that you know what you are getting. When he's healthy, he's a beast. I'm not as concerned about him being injury prone as I am with the number of carries and hits he's already taken in his career at Oklahoma. He doesn't have the same amount of tread on the tires as say Lynch or Michael Bush.

I'm "open" to taking Quinn, but I really don't think he fits what Al's looking for in a QB from a physical standpoint. I think he has the mental moxy to lead any team, but his physical attributes would be best matched with a WCO. I think he'd be perfect for Gruden in Tampa Bay. He simply doesn't get the ball out quick enough or with enough velocity to be effective in a vertical passing game. Watch Quinn's release and then watch Russell's release on 15-yd. out patterns. There's no comparison.

At this point in Raiders history, I think it's time to hitch the wagon to a young franchise QB. Especially if Sarkisian is going to be the next Head Coach. They had a chance at Leinart and passed last year. The defense is built for success for the next 2--3 years at least. It's time to draft a QB, get fresh bodies on the OL, and resolve the revolving door that is the TE position. Like last year's draft was focused on defense, this one should almost solely be focused upon the offense. Get Asomugha, Burgess, and Morrison signed to extensions in the next year and a half (the money is there and Aso's deal is up after next season, and Burgess & Morrison's are up after '08) then find some help at DT and call it a defense. I go with Russell at #1 overall, keep Moss (Porter is optional), plug in some new bodies at the offensive line, and follow Sark's youthful enthusiasm into the new season.




Personal Rant:

To all you people that have ballsacks hanging from your trailer hitches. You're all morons. It's not funny... not even in a redneck "my sister's purty and I like to laugh at ballsacks" kind of way. And exactly what is the point? Are you trying to say you have big balls? Does the addition of a ballsack on your hitch make you more of a man? Is this your way of stating to society that you're "available"? I guarantee you a woman who sees that has no interest in you whatsoever. She's not thinking "ohhh, big ball sack on his truck... this looks like the romantic opportunity of a lifetime." So we've established that they aren't funny and they don't leave women magically gravitating towards you. The only other option is these people truly love big saggy ball sacks. Again, you're all morons. Please, for the sake of society, stop breeding.
 
massraider said:
I think the Raiders will have a better sense of who they think teams will take as the draft draws closer.

I thin the Lions like K. Jones, and I think they'll be looking at Joe Thomas, Gaines Adams, and the QB's. We have 3 months for players to rise and fall, obviously, but right now, that'd be my guess.

I don't want the RB, anyway. I want the QB. I'd be happy with the RB, Peterson certainly seems like a special talent.

But I look at the way the Titans have been turned around by a rookie QB. That entire franchise is going in a different direction. With a guy that was considered 3 years away, dumb as a stump, with a weird release. Is that not immediate enough for people? Is someone going to tell me that Jamarcus is less ready than Young? No way.
Mass, I was on the Young bandwagon last year. My only concern for him going into his final college year was passing and I felt he showed enough to prove it was not an issue. I also do not think Russell is anywhere near as good a prospect as Young. Young is a better athlete and a proven winner. All the dude did was go out and win with freakish talent. Every time he was tested, he passed. There are very few QB's that have been able to do that. On top of that, his performance in the Champ game is by far the best offensive display I have ever seen. Best game in the biggest game is awesome.

In the end, I want Russell if we go QB much more than Quinn.
 
As I was driving into work this morning, I was listening to John Clayton speak on the Mike & Mike show... and he was talking about Miami's decision to sign their assitant coaches to extensions before hiring their next head coach. According to Clayton, this is a great move because the Dolphins have one of the best staffs out there and they could just hire somebody to "manage" them.

Funny... When Al Davis extended Rob Ryan last year, it was because he's meddlesome and is such a micromanager that he won't even let his head coach choose his own staff.

Just sayin'...
 
Raider Nation said:
At this point in Raiders history, I think it's time to hitch the wagon to a young franchise QB. Especially if Sarkisian is going to be the next Head Coach. They had a chance at Leinart and passed last year. The defense is built for success for the next 2--3 years at least. It's time to draft a QB, get fresh bodies on the OL, and resolve the revolving door that is the TE position. Like last year's draft was focused on defense, this one should almost solely be focused upon the offense. Get Asomugha, Burgess, and Morrison signed to extensions in the next year and a half (the money is there and Aso's deal is up after next season, and Burgess & Morrison's are up after '08) then find some help at DT and call it a defense. I go with Russell at #1 overall, keep Moss (Porter is optional), plug in some new bodies at the offensive line, and follow Sark's youthful enthusiasm into the new season.

I'm with you Natty but I'm waivering back and forth between JRuss and AP. On the one hand, we have a guy with a gun like Elway and freak size and a guy that's eerily similar in some respects to VY. On the other hand, we have a RB that could be a foundation of our offense for years to come and help level the playing field in the AFC West.

I think Sark could develop AWAL into a decent QB, especially being a PAC 10 guy and all but it's going to be hard for Al to pass on the immeasurables that JRuss has. Can lightning strike twice? I still feel that if JRUss is the guy, we can still take Michael Bush with our second then concentrate on TE and OL. Of course if we deal Moss, it would certainly mean another high first day pick. Man, the possibilties are endless. I just hope we don't fugg it up.:confused:
 
TheNextStep said:
As I was driving into work this morning, I was listening to John Clayton speak on the Mike & Mike show... and he was talking about Miami's decision to sign their assitant coaches to extensions before hiring their next head coach. According to Clayton, this is a great move because the Dolphins have one of the best staffs out there and they could just hire somebody to "manage" them.

Funny... When Al Davis extended Rob Ryan last year, it was because he's meddlesome and is such a micromanager that he won't even let his head coach choose his own staff.

Just sayin'...
I agree with you Step. I'm sick and tired of people piling on Al Davis about these kinds of issues. The man is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Art Shell is a good example. If Al tells Shell he can't hire Walsh he's meddling. If he let's him he's an asshole and should have stepped in. Bull shit.

Clearly Al isn't without his faults but this kind of double standard is getting to me. :mad:
 
I was going to type a lengthy response and addition to this thread but I feel it will be more beneficial to my redneck ego to use the remainder of my lunchtime removing the chrome nutsack from my hitch.
 
One thing I didn't realise about Russell was that he had 8 wins were he had to make a fourth quarter comeback. This was one of the things that Vince Young obviously had was coolness under pressure. Russell hasn't always played his best in the toughest games especially away from home.

He has made big strides in completion percentage this year and there is plenty more potential there. If we can turn him into the player he maybe capable of being then he would be a worthy choice.

I think Peterson will be a very special running back. The type that has to be gameplanned for, that can change games and I believe he would instantly make us competitive and would be a threat to score from anywhere on the field.
 
Madturk said:
I'm with you Natty but I'm waivering back and forth between JRuss and AP. On the one hand, we have a guy with a gun like Elway and freak size and a guy that's eerily similar in some respects to VY. On the other hand, we have a RB that could be a foundation of our offense for years to come and help level the playing field in the AFC West.

I think Sark could develop AWAL into a decent QB, especially being a PAC 10 guy and all but it's going to be hard for Al to pass on the immeasurables that JRuss has. Can lightning strike twice? I still feel that if JRUss is the guy, we can still take Michael Bush with our second then concentrate on TE and OL. Of course if we deal Moss, it would certainly mean another high first day pick. Man, the possibilties are endless. I just hope we don't fugg it up.:confused:

My thoughts on QB's and RB's are this... it's easier to find a good RB through the draft or Free Agency than it is to find a franchise QB. And given this team's track record on passing on potential franchise QB's, I think it's time to pull the trigger. Just my opinion.
 
Swords said:
I was going to type a lengthy response and addition to this thread but I feel it will be more beneficial to my redneck ego to use the remainder of my lunchtime removing the chrome nutsack from my hitch.

Liar! There isn't a single piece of chrome on your truck. It's 100% Bond-O.
 
Limee said:
One thing I didn't realise about Russell was that he had 8 wins were he had to make a fourth quarter comeback. This was one of the things that Vince Young obviously had was coolness under pressure. Russell hasn't always played his best in the toughest games especially away from home.

He has made big strides in completion percentage this year and there is plenty more potential there. If we can turn him into the player he maybe capable of being then he would be a worthy choice.

I think Peterson will be a very special running back. The type that has to be gameplanned for, that can change games and I believe he would instantly make us competitive and would be a threat to score from anywhere on the field.


Adrian "All Day" Peterson is a cant miss franchise RB i agree 100%.
JR could be a special QB but he is a boom or bust player. A franchise QB is harder to find but more of a gamble. We could trade down and take AP or CJ. I think these guys are less of a gamble, and we could also save money and add another player. If we do draft JR that means Walter will never be the guy in Oakalnd.
 
I think if Sark and Trestman are named HC and OC respectively, it might give AWAL a fighting chance to be the starter next season but it's going to be hard for Al to pass on a guy who can throw the ball 75 yards with the flick of his wrist.
 
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