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Updated: Oct. 14, 2006, 3:39 PM ET

Raiders' Porter suspended four games

ESPN.com news services


Oakland Raiders coach Art Shell has suspended wide receiver Jerry Porter for four games for conduct detrimental to the team.


Porter, when contacted for a response, offered a "no comment."

The suspension, which will likely be appealed by the union, would cost Porter slightly over $235,000 in salary. Sources said Porter was informed of the decision on Friday.
 
Just heard thisw on ESPN radio. HBoy is hours ahead of me! Ha.

So there was obliviously more to the Porter story than meets the eye. He and Art must have really got some bad mojo going on.

I suppose some more details will get leaked in the coming days. Hmph.
 
Is this another nudge to get him to pay back (some of the) $4m so he can be on his way?
 
Limee said:
Is this another nudge to get him to pay back (some of the) $4m so he can be on his way?
Nudge? Well a suspension I guess would be without pay. So yeah that's a strong kick to the jimmmy to be sure.
 
Well we are a bit more polite around these parts!
 
CrossBones said:




I suppose some more details will get leaked in the coming days. Hmph.


Somehow I doubt this will be explained to us... It will be hemmed and hawed around per usual.... I'm going to just go ahead and assume that JP was caught rummaging through Amy's underwear draw...


Why we didn't do this coming out of Napa or why we're choosing to do this at the trade deadline is beyond me.... Unless Limee is correct in that this is incentive for Porter to be agreeable to a payback plan as part of a trade, this one is beyond my paygrade....
 
I think Porter unwisely escalated his efforts to get traded. Can a suspended player be traded?

Hemmed and hawed? I'd bet, "Coach's decision," would be more likely.
 
I don't mind the discipline, in fact I welcome it... I just wish this had been levied in a more timely fashion, before this became a subplot to our season and before it could become a distraction....


With this, I dunno... The article states we have given him the OK in finding a trade.... If I'm trying to sell a car, the last thing I want is let on it's a lemon... Suspending him going into the trade deadline sure seems to do that... I really hope we have some sort of gameplan here.... I'd have preferred to make a cleaner cut with the problem than we have to date, but better late than never....

It is reminding me a bit of the housecleaning Gruden did, when guys like Albert Lewis and Pat Swilling demanded some cancers be removed or they wouldn't be back... In fact this is a Swilling quote I saved from during the coaching hunt:

Swilling was asked about the difference between last year's team and this year's.

"Night and day," replied Swilling. "Coach Gruden is picking the players he wants to go to war with." In a barb obviously aimed at the departed Chester McGlockton, Swilling added, "We aren't going to have players who are above the coach."

"There's no more (having to deal with) some of those guys who think they're above the coach or guys who think they can do it their way," Swilling said.
 
hawaiianboy said:
... I really hope we have some sort of gameplan here....
Seems we rarely do in these situations.
 
More disturbing news from Raiderland...

Nancy Gay, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, October 14, 2006

(10-14) 13:57 PDT DENVER -- A "chaotic" Raiders practice session on Friday in Alameda - a sloppy, longer-than-usual workout that left many players grumbling, sources said -- resulted in wide receiver Jerry Porter receiving a four-game suspension from coach Art Shell for conduct detrimental to the team when the seventh-year veteran openly complained within earshot of the staff.

Porter, 28, already has been deep in Shell's doghouse after the opinionated receiver clashed with the new head coach and receivers coach Fred Biletnikoff during a meeting last spring.

The team's No. 2 receiver in 2005, behind Randy Moss, with 76 catches for 942 yards and five touchdowns, Porter has not been active in any of the Raiders' four games this season, all losses. Since then, he has been practicing on the offensive and defensive scout teams, mimicking opponents during the week and sitting on game days.

Characterized by one Raiders player as "the worst practice we've had all season" under Shell, the usual 90-minute Friday session extended well past 2½ hours, several team sources said on the condition of anonymity, and much of the roster was frustrated and angry by the lack of organization.

"People wonder why we're 0-4 -- that's why," one player said of the workout. "It was a joke out there. Guys were pissed off."

Numerous players, including veterans such as Moss and defensive tackle Warren Sapp, were grumbling among themselves about the practice session, which one Raiders source described as "completely disorganized and chaotic."

At one point, sources said, Porter -- who was running with the scout team defense -- asked somewhat loudly if the practice "was going to last three hours or what?"

Shell overheard the comment, sources said, and retaliated with the suspension, which would cost Porter $235,000 of his $1 million base salary -- if it were to stick.

And that appears unlikely.

Unlike the Philadelphia Eagles, who carefully documented every egregious offense committed by controversial wide receiver Terrell Owens before slapping him with a similar four-game suspension without pay last season, the Raiders have not kept a detailed dossier on Porter.

Without proper documentation of so-called detrimental conduct, an NFL source said, it would be almost impossible to enforce the suspension once it is appealed by Porter's agent, Joel Segal, and the NFL Players Association.

"This won't last a week," an NFL source said Saturday.

The Eagles built their case on Owens by citing instances such as a fight he had with former player Hugh Douglas, who serves as a team "ambassador." When Owens' suspension was finished, Philadelphia coach Andy Reid then deactivated him the remainder of the 2005 season.

In Porter's case, the Raiders will have a difficult time proving he has done anything disruptive enough to warrant banishment.

"The guy is out there practicing, doing everything he has to do to help us," one player said Saturday before the team departed for Denver for Sunday night's AFC West contest against Denver. "Come on now, this is getting out of hand.

"A lot of us are wondering what's next."

Ailing team owner Al Davis, several sources said, has turned over almost all authority to Shell and did not intervene in the decision to suspend Porter.

Porter told The Chronicle in July that he and Shell were not on the same page and that had no confidence in Shell's choice for an offensive coordinator, Tom Walsh. Porter also said that he hoped the team would trade him.

The Raiders gave Segal permission to shop Porter, provided he repays about $4 million in bonus money the receiver was paid last year. So far, there have been no takers.

The NFL's trade deadline is Tuesday.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/10/14/SPGUTLPNHH5.DTL&feed=rss.raiders

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Wow...this is getting ugly. Does it appear that Art has lost this team? Or is there a cancer faction that Art needs to remove much the same way Gruden did in his first year as HC? Jerry Porter looks like the first to go. Sapp and Moss aren't earning any brownie points it appears to me.

Thoughts?
 
Practicing with both the offense and defense scout teams?... uh okay...

Ugh.... I don't find Nancy Gay to be terribly reliable, but that hurt my stomach to read.... Not good at all... This could get really ugly...


On the other hand, the people that have been wanting Al to stop meddling and let the coach do his thing, are getting their wish it appears...

Ailing team owner Al Davis, several sources said, has turned over almost all authority to Shell and did not intervene in the decision to suspend Porter.
 
I wish I had never asked for it now. This could actually be worse.
 
If that article is the truth then I fear things are going to get worse before they get better. If playing Denver at Invesco can't get everybody focused then I don't know what will. We need to cut bait with guys like Moss and Sapp as they are not going to be part of any solution.
 
Limee said:
If that article is the truth then I fear things are going to get worse before they get better. If playing Denver at Invesco can't get everybody focused then I don't know what will. We need to cut bait with guys like Moss and Sapp as they are not going to be part of any solution.

Probably going to get worse, I agree.

And yeah, Sapp and Moss need to go bye bye.
 
Wow Porter got suspended four games w/o pay for that? Obviously it's a result of all the other stuff that has gone on with Porter, but still this makes Art seem kinda petty IMO.

Ailing team owner Al Davis, several sources said, has turned over almost all authority to Shell and did not intervene in the decision to suspend Porter.

And yet according to some folks, Al Davis and his alleged meddling is the main problem with the Raiders.


The Raiders gave Segal permission to shop Porter, provided he repays about $4 million in bonus money the receiver was paid last year. So far, there have been no takers.

Assuming the suspension doesn't stand, what's the real incentive for Porter to find a trading partner? Sure he wants to play elsewhere, given a choice between giving up $4M to play somewhere else and keeping the money and still collecting a
sizeable check for being incactive every week, which would most of you choose?
 
I'd rather play, but that's just me. I also wouldn't have gone off on the coach or told him I wanted someone else in our first meeting. But that's just me too.
 
Though I really worry about a ripple effect with the other players, I don't mind suspending Porter since we weren't going to play him anyway...


I would have preferred the Bill Parcells method though:

1) Antonio Bryant runs his mouth

2) Bryant gets called into Parcells office... Looks down and notices he's standing on a sheet of plastic wrap

3) Bryant opens his eyes the next morning a member of the Cleveland Browns


Well at least this gives Amy and her staff of litigators the chance to flex their muscles...
 
Jerry McDonald's take

No winners in Porter saga

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Saturday at 6:18 pm


The last thing I asked Art Shell Friday afternoon, half in jest, was “Got any surprises for us?’’


Shell, smiled and said, “No, I have none.’’


It was a way of asking him about Jerry Porter for the 100th time without actually asking him. Shell could say Porter was active, ending the cold war which has existed since before training camp began.


Flash forward to Saturday, and the Raiders’ announcement that Porter was suspended for “conduct detrimental to the team.’’ Pending appeal, Porter will be gone for four weeks and fined $232,292 and change _ which amounts to four-seventeenths of his yearly salary of $1 million.


While the Raiders did not specify Porter’s conduct, the word is his practice behavior was less than exemplary of late. That must have included Friday’s workout, in which the Raiders walked off the field as if it were any other day and Shell claimed there were no surprises.


Two days earlier Shell had gone out of his way to say of Porter, “He’s working. I’ve never said he wasn’t working.’’


Still, Porter, although clearly superior to both Alvis Whitted and Johnnie Morant, had been deactivated for the first four games of the season and was running with the scout team.


The past couple of weeks, Porter was putting on a good face in the locker room. He was smiling and joking with reporters, although mostly declining any serious questions to do with football. The famous middle-finger shirt had been put away.


Maybe it was an act. Perhaps Porter was clearly flaunting Shell and the coach had no choice.


Then again, as the Raiders stretch every day at practice during the brief time the media is allowed to watch, Randy Moss stands in the middle of the field playing catch with someone on the support staff while the rest of the team is on the ground getting loose under the direction of the training staff.


Visual evidence suggests Moss is giving less than his best effort at times during games.


If the Raiders had in their minds to conduct a series of events that would make the player, the coach and the organization look bad, they’ve succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.


Porter looks like the protypical spoiled athlete. He first got in an argument with Shell over wanting to train at home in Florda, rather with the team, and told an ESPN.com columnist of his preference for Mike Martz to run the Raiders offense. He disparaged Tom Walsh, Shell’s choice of offensive coordinator.


He suffered a calf strain in training camp, missed practice, and walked to and from the field with a scowl on his face while wearing his middle-finger shirt in full view of invited guests which included children.


So there wasn’t a lot of sympathy for Porter as the Raiders hit the regular season, particularly after the optical illusion of a 4-1 pre-season.


Then came the regular-season, a 27-0 loss to the San Diego Chargers, and the realization that their second-best receiver was in street clothes.


It was Shell’s turn to look bad. Although Porter didn’t have remotely the status of Marcus Allen, it brought to mind the banishment of the Raiders’ most popular player under Shell’s watch from 1990 through 1992.


As he did with Allen, Shell essentially has pretended nothing is happening.


“Coaches decision,’’ is all he will say.


Shell, a man who carries himself with a quiet integrity, looks as if he has mismanaged the entire situation. At some point, shouldn’t Shell have attempted to fix the problem, rather than let it go on unabated?


On one hand, Shell said he has never listened to the less-than-flattering portrait Moss paints each week of the Raiders on Fox Sports radio and doesn’t plan to listen. On the other hand, Porter’s behavior is inexcusable.


Shell looks as if he is permitting a double-standard which should be obvious to every man on the roster.


There is, of course, the organizational question. While Tim Brown is of the opinion Porter’s exile is the work of Shell and a tug-of-war between two “bullheaded’’ men, the natural conclusion drawn by many is this is the work of Al Davis.


It was Davis who banished Allen in a dispute over money. It was Davis who banished Steve Beuerlein in an issue over money. When Porter demanded a trade, Davis wanted $4 million from Porter in the form of a bonus repayment.


It’s not as if deactivating and then suspending Porter is going to drive up his trade value with Tuesday’s deadline looming.


Davis looks small and petty, strong-arming a player he said had “lost his way’’ during training camp.


The whole affair is classic Raiders, almost as unappealing as their 0-4 record.


Nothing like generating a little momentum going into a tough game in Denver.
 
Yep, it certainly seems like we're circling the drain now...


My hopes for this season is:

1) That we're playing better as the year goes on...

2) Like Grudens first year, I hope we can identify the problem kids and weed them out...

3) We start extending the contracts early of the young guys we do want around...
 
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