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Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Wednesday at 1:14 pm

There were no reports of dogfighting. No quarterbacks complaining about why they didn't get Randy Moss. No arrest reports.

The Raiders, complying with new NFL rules which require periods of media access during organized team activity sessions, opened practice to the media Wednesday.

It was uneventful, save for the distinctive voice of of Rob Ryan tearing into his defense and Tom Cable getting on the offensive line. Just the sights ands sounds of players who hope they're getting better, although no one will truly know for sure until they face a team wearing a different color jersey.

Catching up on some news and notes after taking a few days off:

– It's getting empty in the Raiders pro personnel department. Chris Dodds, essentially the No. 2 man behind Mike Lombardi, was recently removed from the Raiders Web site. Profootballtalk.com reports that Tom Gamble, the 49ers pro personnel director, is the man the Raiders have targeted for the Lombardi role.

I heard the same thing, so I called Gamble yesterday morning at the 49ers offices. Asked him if it was true he could be moving across the bay to join the Raiders pro personnel department. Gamble said no, it was not true.

End of the story?

Not necessarily. If you're negotiating with the Raiders and don't have a deal set in stone, you deny everything. I've had two sources tell me Gamble is the guy.

Gamble worked under Bill Polian for seven years in Indianapolis, and is in charge of pro personnel with the 49ers, with he and David McCloughan (college scouting) reporting to vice president of personnel Scot McCloughan.

As it stands now, the Raiders have no one in place in charge of having a list at the ready of free agents and potential free agents to stock the roster. Whoever gets this job will report to Lane Kiffin, and despite the denial, don't rule Gamble out of the mix.

– Robert Gallery took most of the snaps at left tackle with Barry Sims at right tackle Wednesday, although they did flop sides late in the day.

– Wide receiver Mike Williams, who was out with a hamstring pull about three-quarters of the way through his first minicamp practice, is still rehabbing and can't practice.

– WR Johnathan Holland, who suffered a shoulder injury during minicamp, went down with a knee injury and was seen leaving with a member of the support staff, usually a sign for an MRI.

– RB Justin Fargas (shoulder) was back at practice.

– QB JaMarcus Russell reported he felt much more comfortable. Kiffin said there was a marked difference in how Russell called plays and handled himself.

There was one strange sequence when Russell went to one knee and spent about 10 minutes on the sideline talking with trainer Rod Martin.

Russell said he was fine.

"Just trying to catch my breath and make sure everything was all right," Russell said. "Was working hard down there. There comes a time when you try to do too much, instead of just relaxing, and I was trying to make sure I did the drills right."

– Art Shell and Tom Walsh told the Boston Globe Randy Moss wasn't always giving 100 percent effort last year.

Wonder how Shell feels now about how he protected Moss last year when asked the same thing on a few occasions last year?

True, there's a lot of spinwork and shading of the truth going on as a head coach, but vouching for Moss all season did noting for Shell's credibility or his career.

– DT Warren Sapp and DE Derrick Burgess were among the few no-shows, along with a few rookies who aren't allowed to show up until their college classes graduate. It's not a big deal, since OTA's are not mandatory and both men looked to be in excellent condition at the mandatory minicamp.

– Tyler Brayton, who saw considerable time at tackle at the mandatory minicamp, was getting most of his work at end Wednesday.

– Mark Meyer, one of Rod Martin's assistants on the Raiders training staff, left to join Bill Callahan as Nebraska's head trainer.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/
 
sounds good so far. i saw the brayton back to de thing coming... though i think he'll see time at both during the season
 
I don't know about Brayton, but I trust Ryan. If there's a better option, he'll play him. Hopefully he'll prove capable at DT as well and he can be a fill-in for the starters, or start in case of injury.
 
There was one strange sequence when Russell went to one knee and spent about 10 minutes on the sideline talking with trainer Rod Martin.

Russell said he was fine.

"Just trying to catch my breath and make sure everything was all right," Russell said. "Was working hard down there. There comes a time when you try to do too much, instead of just relaxing, and I was trying to make sure I did the drills right."

Translation:

He was gassed. Took a knee and got called over by Rod Martin.

"Ya tired, son?"
Through ragged breath, "Yessir."

"Well, yer gonna sit here and catch yer breath for about ten minutes while I tell you a little story about the giant Quarterback that didn't do his cardio workouts and ended up being cut after his fourth year, bounced around a while as a back-up and ended up being labeled a bigger bust than that San Diego kid."
Controling his breathing more, "Yessir."
"Once upon a time..."
 
Russell's confidence grows with more practice
Kiffin says Raiders' top pick already proving dramatically in second week
The Associated Press
Updated: 3:37 p.m. PT May 16, 2007

ALAMEDA, Calif. - JaMarcus Russell admits that his first minicamp with the Oakland Raiders was a bit overwhelming.

Now having had a little more than a week at home to study the playbook and his performance at practice, the top pick in last month’s draft feels more comfortable as an NFL quarterback.

The play calls come easier and the dropped snaps have disappeared as Russell tries to prove he’s ready to be a starter in the NFL.

“It’s better and better,” Russell said Wednesday. “You come out, you focus on things, you’ve got a task at hand before you, and pretty much you get a chance to go over it, get a heads-up on it, instead of coming out here and not knowing what’s going on. It’s pretty good fun.”

Russell spent his time away studying the playbook, talking to coaches and looking at the film of his first practices.

Coach Lane Kiffin said the difference this week in Russell is obvious. Russell had more presence in the huddle, more confidence calling plays at the line and appeared more relaxed, Kiffin said.

“He appears to be a lot more comfortable this time around, having some time off to digest the playbook and watch the film of what happened last camp so he can get better and stuff,” Kiffin said. “We’re pleased with him.”

Russell is competing with Andrew Walter and Josh McCown for the starting role on the Raiders. Walter struggled in his first season, going 2-6 as a starter and committing 22 turnovers while throwing just three touchdown passes.

McCown, acquired last month from Detroit, did not throw a single pass last season with the Lions, but has the most experience of the three. He made 22 career starts in Arizona before joining Detroit last season.

Kiffin said Russell is getting the same treatment in practice as the more experienced quarterbacks to see how much of the offense he can handle if he does get in games early in the season.

Russell already has one advantage over the other quarterbacks.

“Arm strength,” Kiffin said. “It’s no secret that he throws the ball differently than the other guys out here and he throws the ball differently than most people in the world. That’s the obvious thing.”

At one point early in the practice, Russell stopped taking part in drills and was tended to by trainer Rod Martin. Russell said it was no big deal, he just got a little winded.

“I was just trying to catch my breath, make sure everything was all right,” he said. “Was working hard down there. There comes a time when you try to do too much, instead of just relaxing, and I was just trying to make sure I did the drills right.”

Most of the team was at the voluntary workout, with the two most prominent absences being defensive linemen Derrick Burgess and Warren Sapp. Newly acquired wide receiver Mike Williams attended but didn’t take part in the workouts while he recovers from a hamstring injury he sustained at minicamp earlier this month.

© 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18707962/
 
Yes R4L thank you. But the bold print makes me cheat and look down before i get to it. I know when its bold its good for us! The fact JR was winded shows me this guy is working his ass off in practice. He is obviously mentally and physically drained, as a rook should be. The comments about him throwing better than most NFL guys makes me feel like a cheerleader at homecoming.. cant help it. I wanna see this guy play! Its going to be a long wait I know. But I am seriously considering getting tickets to the Colts game in Oak town late in the season. I think maybe Junior will be playing by then.
 
The play calls come easier and the dropped snaps have disappeared as Russell tries to prove he’s ready to be a starter in the NFL.
He's moved past Brooks in quarterbacking skills.


At one point early in the practice, Russell stopped taking part in drills and was tended to by trainer Rod Martin. Russell said it was no big deal, he just got a little winded.

“I was just trying to catch my breath, make sure everything was all right,” he said. “Was working hard down there. There comes a time when you try to do too much, instead of just relaxing, and I was just trying to make sure I did the drills right.”
Great the $60M dollar man can't even get through the session without sucking wind. I hope it is just the furious pace we are practicing at.
 
Some major cuts here.........WHO?


Date Pos. Player Description

05/16/2007 DB Kris Richard Released
05/15/2007 DB Kenny Patton Waived
 
Yes R4L thank you. But the bold print makes me cheat and look down before i get to it. I know when its bold its good for us!

I get that. But shouldn't you learn to control yourself a bit or do you...

read the last page of a book when you're 25% done?

look for signs that your daily horoscope is coming true?

watch only the American Idol results show?

:D

But still... I'll start bolding some bad stuff too. :)
 
Great the $60M dollar man can't even get through the session without sucking wind. I hope it is just the furious pace we are practicing at.

Calvin Johnson made very similar comments about a week ago at the Lions mini-camp. He even admitted to being out of shape (what a shock, it's May!). I don't think it's a big deal that a player is getting winded when he's just starting to get back into football mode.
 
Calvin Johnson made very similar comments about a week ago at the Lions mini-camp. He even admitted to being out of shape (what a shock, it's May!). I don't think it's a big deal that a player is getting winded when he's just starting to get back into football mode.

Agreed. Besides, anyone that works out on a regular basis knows that breaks are neccesary. Even more so for professional football players. I'm not saying that these guys should even & drink themselves to oblivian, but a breaks in the routine are beneficial IMO.

If he's out of shade in early August, I'd get a bit concerned then. I think JaMarcus seems to have the mindset to work hard and be the best he can be. I don't get the unmotivated vibe from him.
 
Calvin Johnson made very similar comments about a week ago at the Lions mini-camp. He even admitted to being out of shape (what a shock, it's May!). I don't think it's a big deal that a player is getting winded when he's just starting to get back into football mode.
I jest, it is easy to find things to get on a player about especially a rookie. There is probably as much mental exaustion as well as physical. It's good to see players being pushed and forced to work at a fast pace. It should stand them in good stead. Russell seems to have made a solid start and it looks like he is working hard.
 
From raiders.com

Organized Team Activities
May 17, 2007


Organized Team Activities are in full swing at The Oakland Raiders’ facility in Alameda, Calif. OTAs give coaches the opportunity to further educate players and give them the chance to work with each other in a less pressurized atmosphere. While attendance is voluntary, everyone knows how important it is to get on the same page and any opportunity to do so must not be wasted. With only one session per day, coaches must be efficient with their time on the field. Beginning early in the morning and ending around 2:00 p.m., players and coaches will put in three days of hard work during each OTA in preparation for training camp in late July. There are four sets of OTAs scheduled for the next four weeks.

Rookie quarterback JaMarcus Russell flew back from Louisiana to attend this week’s session. He spent the time between the mandatory Mini-Camp and this week’s OTAs studying his playbook. “I went over things we learned here [during Mini-Camp]. I’m just trying to get an edge. I talked with Coach Flip [Quarterbacks Coach John DeFilippo], reviewing plays, making sure we are on the same page,” Russell said.

While players do talk with their coaches after practice, they are also using this time to get to know one another. From study sessions, to movie nights, to bowling, Raiders players are getting to know their new teammates. “This is our bonding time. These times are the building blocks for our team,” said SS Jarrod Cooper.. “This is important because once you get to training camp it’s too late to meet an entire team. You may be able to add one or two guys, but at that point it’s too late to get to know everyone. When training camp comes, it’s time to play. Bonding now, enables us to focus on football come training camp,” Cooper continued.

Head Coach Lane Kiffin has stressed that every starting position on the field is still open. Players are competing for their jobs. He explained the importance of attendance. “We are always competing to get a lot of guys out here, as many as we can, because we feel that’s how we will get better,” said Coach Kiffin. “At the same time, with what we’re doing here, we hope they feel they are getting better. This creates an atmosphere where they want to come back, they feel they are getting coached, they feel they are getting better, and that it’s worth being here as opposed to being at home. We’re competing to get as many guys as we can out here; the ones that do come we’re coaching,” he added.

Players have the weekend off but most are staying in town. Some will work out at the facility, others will relax with family, but each will be studying his playbook. Competition for positions is fierce, any edge a player can get is vital to winning a starting job.


2007 OTAs Photo Gallery 1 and article here: http://www.raiders.com/Common/Article.aspx?id=22708

So class, does everyone get that attendance and competition are important?
specially bolded for Big Tron
 
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Williams up and running

ALAMEDA - Mike Williams ran off the field Wednesday afternoon as the Raiders wrapped practice.

That's progress.

The receiver injured his hamstring the first day of minicamp May 4. He made it almost through the entire first practice before limping of the field.

He ran past quickly but did mention he hoped to be back on the field by the end of the week.

"At least I'm running now," he said.

Williams' work has been limited to the training and weight rooms.

"We don't want to push him back too fast, but obviously we're looking forward to getting him back when he's ready," coach Lane Kiffin said.

That's the way to do it. Nothing is won or lost in May. And after two tough years in Detroit, the last thing the collegiate All-American needs is a nagging injury dogging him in training camp.

• Rookie Johnathan Holland's bad luck with injuries just won't stop.

He dislocated his shoulder at minicamp. He was on the field today but later departed with a left knee injury.

Running back Adimchinobe Echemandu injured his ankle during the workout and was taken off the field on a cart.

• Nearly the entire roster was present for the first day of organized team activities, something veterans usually skip.

Notable exceptions were defensive linemen Warren Sapp, Derrick Burgess and Terdell Sands. Offensive lineman Jeremy Newberry was absent, but with his injury history, he's expected to take some time off.

There's really no need to panic about who is around for voluntary workouts, unless someone like JaMarcus Russell skips out (he didn't).

Kiffin was pleased with the turnout. But unlike a lot of coaches who demand everyone attend regardless, Kiffin acknowledges there has to be a reason players want to be at team headquarters.

"We hope what we're doing out here, they feel like they're getting better so we create an atmosphere where they want to come back, they feel like they're getting coached, they feel like they're better and it's worth being here as opposed to being at home on the East Coast," Kiffin said.

- Jason Jones http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/raiders/
 
I think dumping Randy was obviously a huge move. He would have been a major distraction. Thanks for the link
 
Im getting all confused.

I dont know which 'R 4/IV Life' to be mad at right now.

;)
 
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