*** Official not too soon 2024 draft thread***

[Crow]

8 QB, 3 DL, . . . only 1 OT and 0 CB?

Trying to be covert.

 

[Sleet]

Raiders’ 30 visits seem to be either QBs or flyers.

 

[raiderfreak7]

Raiders’ 30 visits seem to be either QBs or flyers.

Michael Penix coming in for a top 30 visit, too.

 

[Crossbones]

Michael Penix coming in for a top 30 visit, too.

Imagine that.

 

[alteredst8]

The consensus says?

• 7 Rnd 1 OTs
• 2 Rnd 2 OTs
• 2 Rnd 3 OTs

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I think some of the edge guys go earlier than we think as well. I think Dallas Turner is every bit the prospect Will Anderson was last year. Verse is a damn good prospect as is Latu. Would not be shocked one bit to see 2 of the 3 to go top 10. Latu with his medical is the only thing that may hold him back from being in that top 15 range.

 

[alteredst8]

How about this nuts scenario.
Jets draft Odunze
We draft Penix at 13
We trade Adams our 2nd for Odunze and their 3rd .. so Pick swap and Adams for Odunze.

 

[Sleet]

How about this nuts scenario.
Jets draft Odunze
We draft Penix at 13
We trade Adams our 2nd for Odunze and their 3rd .. so Pick swap and Adams for Odunze.

Love the concept.

Jets?

 

[alteredst8]

Love the concept.

Jets?

They get to go all in with Adams and Rogers as well as add a 2nd round pick they didn’t have at the expense of a 3rd.

 

[Sleet]

They get to go all in with Adams and Rogers as well as add a 2nd round pick they didn’t have at the expense of a 3rd.

IDK if Odunze falls to #10. If he does, that’s good value.

The WR and pick swap you’re suggesting then would value Adams and his contract at 1070 (1300 - 460 + 230) or the #15 pick. That’s too much for Adams. Diggs only netted less than a ‘25 2nd. Not sure we’d get anything back from the NYJ, which would value Adams at 840 or #20, perhaps the NYJ’s comp 4th, #134, which would equate to 879 or #19, still high.

 

[Crossbones]

 

[007]

How about this nuts scenario.
Jets draft Odunze
We draft Penix at 13
We trade Adams our 2nd for Odunze and their 3rd .. so Pick swap and Adams for Odunze.

Did you run that one on Madden?!? What a move!

 

[alteredst8]

Did you run that one on Madden?!? What a move!

Had to go back to Tecmo Bowl to make it work Madden kept refusing

 

[Sleet]

Does JJ fall to #7? And would we be the team trading for him?

 

[RaiderJF]

They get to go all in with Adams and Rogers as well as add a 2nd round pick they didn’t have at the expense of a 3rd.

Any hopes of moving Adams for the Jets first pick died the day they signed MWilliams. They are set now with GWilson and Williams.

 

[Nobodyinparticular]

Does JJ fall to #7? And would we be the team trading for him?

That's a little rich for my blood.

 

[Sleet]

That's a little rich for my blood.

It would be paying a 3rd round QB premium for JJ.

 

[Chris_77]

That's a little rich for my blood.

I like paying the picks out now instead of having it carry over to subsequent years in the event it doesn't work out.

I know that's apparently contrary to how the value chart works, but I'd rather take my medicine all at once.

 

[Nobodyinparticular]

I like paying the picks out now instead of having it carry over to subsequent years in the event it doesn't work out.

I know that's apparently contrary to how the value chart works, but I'd rather take my medicine all at once.

Yeah, I definitely understand that.

Just in terms of total cost according to the chart, I think the Twitter user is overplaying the Titans' hand. The Rich Hill trade value chart (more recent than the JJ chart) works out to 1 and 2 as an overpay, with 1&3 as a SLIGHT underpay.

I'll remind the group that McKenzie took a 1 and 2 to drop from #3 to #13.

Obviously there are extenuating circumstances from that draft when compared to this one. The 2013 draft was a historically poor draft while this one feels strong at the top. In addition there is the QB premium when a team jumps up to draft a QB.

But even with all things considered, I think the Raiders should be able to lower the cost so that they don't have to spend all their Day 2 picks just to jump from #13 to #7.

With that said, I'd rather take an overpay than get stuck with Arnold or Olu at #13 and Pratt in the 4th.

Whatever happens, the Raiders need to end up with one of the top 6 QBs in the draft even if it means an overpay.

 

[Darkenblot]

Which Analysts Are Best At Predicting NFL Draft Outcomes?

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction

www.hogshaven.com

Cumulative Ranks for Predicting Draft Order:
5 WalterFootball - Best
6 Mel Kiper
7 Lance Zierlein
12 PFF
15 CBS Sports - Worst

Cumulative Ranks for Predicting Player Outcomes:
Tie 6 Mel Kiper - Best
Tie 6 NFL GMs - Best
8 Lance Zierlein
10 PFF
16 WalterFootball
17 CBS - Worst

 

[Sleet]

Which Analysts Are Best At Predicting NFL Draft Outcomes?

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction

www.hogshaven.com

Cumulative Ranks for Predicting Draft Order:
5 WalterFootball - Best
6 Mel Kiper
7 Lance Zierlein
12 PFF
15 CBS Sports - Worst

Cumulative Ranks for Predicting Player Outcomes:
Tie 6 Mel Kiper - Best
Tie 6 NFL GMs - Best
8 Lance Zierlein
10 PFF
16 WalterFootball
17 CBS - Worst

Including Walter Football invalidated the study. Lol