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Ryan Kalil


College: Southern Cal Number: 67
Height: 6-3 Weight: 291


Overview

It's a good thing that Kalil has the bloodlines and talent to be regarded as one of the premier centers in college football. He is known to be constantly singing Frank Sinatra songs in the locker room and huddle. Based on his teammates' impressions of this amateur crooner, it is safe to say Kalil won't be seen on "American Idol" anytime soon. Fortunately, based on his performances as the anchor of the Trojans' offensive line the past three years, he'll be doing battle with NFL defensive tackles for years to come.

He is a legacy, of sorts, at the center position. His father, Frank, was also a center at Arkansas (1978) and Arizona (1980-81-82), then was drafted by the Buffalo Bills in 1982 before playing for the USFL's Arizona Wranglers in 1983 and Houston Gamblers in 1984.

"I started playing football to follow in my dad's footsteps," Ryan Kalil said. "Now, having my dad play the same position has been great. He knows the tricks of the trade and it's easy to pass them on to me."

His father recently passed on these thoughts about his son, "He's the type of kid you dream of having. He's a throwback. He doesn't drink or smoke. And I'd always hear him playing Sinatra in his bedroom. He wasn't the biggest lineman in high school, but he had those size-16 feet. So I figured he'd either grow into his body and get big, or else he'd join the circus."

Former USC offensive line coach Tim Davis calls Kalil one of his finest students: "Centers are like quarterbacks. Hard to find. They have to be so intelligent and so competitive. Ryan's got great technique, great feet and he won't allow himself to get beat."

Kalil was a 2002 Prep Star All-American, Super Prep All-Farwest, Prep Star All-West, Tom Lemming All-West, Long Beach Press-Telegram Best of the Rest, Tacoma News Tribune Western 100 and Cal-Hi Sports All-State honorable mention as a center and long snapper at Servite High School. He added All-CIF Southern Section first-team, CIF Division I first- team and Orange County Register All-Orange County second-team honors that year. During his last two seasons as a starter, Kalil did not allow any quarterback sacks.

Kalil enrolled at Southern California in 2003, seeing six games (Hawaii, Arizona State, Notre Dame, Arizona, UCLA and Oregon State) of action, backing up Norm Katnik at center. Thrust into the starting lineup in 2004, he was the recipient of the team's Courage Award, as he collected 51 knockdowns and made six touchdown-resulting blocks for an offense that averaged 449.1 yards per game.

Kalil earned second-team All-American honors from The NFL Draft Report, College Football News and Sports Illustrated in 2005. He added first-team All-Pac 10 Conference honors and won the team's Bob Chandler Award (given to the underclassman with outstanding athletic ability, academic achievement and character). He helped the offense average 579.8 yards per game, as he registered 78 knockdowns and led the blockers with 16 touchdown-resulting blocks. He also began a string of not allowing a quarterback sack or pressure in his final 26 games.

In 2006, Kalil was a first-team All-American pick by The NFL Draft Report and Pro Football Weekly, adding second-team accolades from the Associated Press, Walter Camp and The Sporting News. He added unanimous All-Pac 10 Conference first-team honors and won the Morris Trophy, given to the league's top offensive lineman, as voted by the Pac-10's defensive linemen. He was a finalist for the Rimington Trophy (nation's top center), was named USC's Most Inspirational Player and was a co-recipient of the team's Offensive Lineman of the Year Award.




Analysis

Positives: Has just adequate muscle definition, but is naturally strong with very good lateral agility and the short-area burst to generate movement off the snap and get into the second level blocks…Has room on his frame to add at least another 20 pounds of bulk with no drop-off in quickness…Builds his acceleration nicely and runs with a normal stride, body control and good balance…Has the loose hips to work his way down the line and does a very good job of locking on and controlling defenders working in space…Is a smart, instinctive type who is quick to pick up twists and games…Colorful character who likes to keep his teammates loose…Has a quick hand punch to shock a lethargic defender and while he can use more leg strength to drive his man off the ball, he has good hand placement to pull, jerk and drag down…Unquestioned team leader who will not hesitate to get vocal when the need arises…Quick to adjust to the blitz and has a smooth kick slide in pass protection…Shows very quick hand snap action and can handle long snapping chores…Gains advantage most of the time due to his burst coming off the ball…Does a consistent job of getting his hand on the defender…Has enough force behind his punch to impede the defender's forward charge…Quick to gain position setting up in pass protection, displaying the body control to sustain…Does a good job of walling off and shows good desire to control the action in the middle, using his hands effectively to widen the rush lane…Even when he is mismatched (size issues), he will get movement off the ball, as he is consistent at taking proper angles…Usually gets a good surge due to his explosion, and is light on his feet to pull and run down the line…Effective when asked to impact on the edge, consistently turning and sealing…Gets into the second level with good urgency and looks up other people after neutralizing his man…Has the agility and quickness to move or cut off…Lacks ideal bulk, but has a good pass set and punch to stop the pass rushers frequently…Shows good hand technique and hits with authority…Can sink his hips and stay square with good recovery quickness…Knows how to grab and control defenders…Can readily adjust on the move and uses his lateral agility to make the reach block…Can shuffle and slide his feet with good base and is alert to movement and over-arm action.

Negatives: Because of a lack of size and bulk, he needs to keep his hands active in order to gain movement…Needs to improve his lower body strength to prevent the mammoth nose guards from walking him back into the pocket…Very quick to get into the second level, but sometimes gets out of control in his pursuit and gets washed out on the play…On the move, he sometimes gets his hands too far outside his frame and will whiff on a few blocks …Vulnerable to the bull rush, but knows angles and sticks to his blocks.

Compares To: TOM NALEN-Denver…Outside of Nalen, few centers get their jerseys as dirty as Kalil does. Kalil is a tough-as-nails blocker who compensates for size limitations with very good hand placement, a strong punch and quickness off the snap. He gets movement with his ability to take angles and shows good alertness on pulls and traps. He keeps his hands active to handle multiple defenders and his body control, balance and vision lets him consistently neutralize second level defenders. He is susceptible to a strong bull rush from a nose guard, causing him to walk back in the pocket, but he has an array of moves and is a solid enough technician to make the game a long afternoon for his opponent.
 
Samson Satele


College: Hawaii Number: 64
Height: 6-2 Weight: 294


Overview


The Warriors' coaching staff was concerned about protecting its star quarterback, Colt Brennan, entering the 2006 season. With starter Derek Faavi having graduated, there was a huge vacancy to fill at the center position. Satele (pronounced (sah-TELL-ay) approached head coach June Jones about moving to the pivot from left offensive guard. Not only did Satele solidify the Hawaii front wall, the versatile blocker quickly established himself as the premier pass protector in college football at his new position. With his raw power and nimble feet, pro scouts are comparing him to former San Francisco 49ers great, Jesse Sapolu.

Satele was an All-State first-team selection by the Honolulu Star-Bulletin and The Honolulu Advertiser as a senior at Kailua High School. He was also named first-team All-League and earned All-American honors from Prep Star, a recruiting service that rated Satele as one of the top 20 offensive linemen in the West. He was the recipient of the Top Offensive Lineman Award at the 2001 Maverick Football clinic after leading the team to a share of the league title.

Satele also lettered three times in basketball. He was chosen All-State in hoops three consecutive seasons, adding All-League accolades as a junior and senior. He was also named the team's Most Valuable Player his junior year. Satele added three letters in track, competing in the shot put and discus. He was also named the school's Athlete of the Year for 2000-01.

Satele enrolled at Hawaii in 2002, spending the season performing on the scout team. He moved into the starting lineup immediately, lining up for the season opener at left tackle before moving to left guard for the rest of the 14-game schedule. He registered 48 knockdown blocks and allowed only one quarterback sack. For that performance, he earned second-team All-Western Athletic Conference and Scripps/FWAA first-team Freshman All-American honors.

Satele would go on to start every game that he played in for the Warriors. He lined up at left guard in 10 contests and at center for three games, producing 42 knockdowns with only one sack in 2004, picking up All-WAC second-team accolades. In 2005, he stayed at left guard for all 12 games. He registered 32 knockdowns, allowed two sacks and graded 86 percent for blocking consistency while garnering All-WAC first-team recognition.

Having moved back to center in 2006, Satele was an All-American first-team pick by The NFL Draft Report. He was named All-WAC first-team, as he produced 65 knockdowns for an offense that generated 559.2 yards per game, paving the way for a unit that generated 84 touchdowns. What was even more impressive was that he held his main assignment to no tackles in seven of the 14 games he played in. In 53 games at Hawaii, all starts, Satele was credited 177 knockdown blocks.





Analysis


Positives: You can see on film his ability to sink his hips and use his lower body strength to anchor up...Has a typical center's build ? compact, with very thick legs, big bubble, big and strong hands, barrel chest, wide hips, but shorter than ideal arm length...Added more than 15 pounds of bulk prior to the 2006 season while increasing his strength...Has good short-area quickness, showing balance protecting the pocket...Builds his acceleration nicely and has good retreat agility to protect the quarterback...Has the power behind his initial burst to lock on and gain advantage...Shows a confident, aggressive nature on the field, but takes on a good attitude and mentoring role for the younger players away from the game...Nasty, mean brawler who loves to mix it up in the trenches...Multiple-punch type of blocker, but will not get too out of control to draw penalties...Bit of a trash-talker, but based on his performance in 2006, he did a good job of backing it up...Has a good short-area burst out of his stance and is very active with his hands in attempts to lock on and sustain...Has enough speed to do a solid job of zoning a three-tech consistently and comes out of his stance with a low pad level and hands raised to wall off...Has a strong base and good balance to defeat the bull rush...Flashes a strong hand punch to jolt the defender and generates good leverage when blocking in closed quarters...Once he gains position, he is quick to sink his weight to anchor and sustain...Made great strides in shooting his hands coming off the snap...Has a punishing hand punch that helps his lock on to the defender and the upper body strength to redirect the opponent...Generates good pop upon contact and can dominate when he extends his arms to lock on...When working in-line, Satele is effective at gaining position to wall off the defender...Comes off the snap with strong leg drive and base, but does get too narrow in his base when blocking in space...Has the functional retreat quickness and arm extension to protect the pocket and stays low in his pads while driving hard with his legs to lock on and sustain... Has the upper body strength to consistently widen the rush lanes and when he stays low in his pads, he can turn and steer the defensive tackle off the line...Can punch and replace with good lock-out...Better when allowed to see games up front and does a good job of bumping the opponent to negotiate the slant...Alert to stunts and twists, showing good patience letting the plays come to him rather than overextend or lunge to move out in space.

Negatives: Plays with good base and balance when stationary, but will sometimes get narrow in his stance when blocking on the move (susceptible to low tackles)...With his thick lower body, he plants himself firmly to stymie the bull rush, but is limited in his change of direction adjustments...Earlier in his career, Satele needed structure in his training habits, as he would slack off when not being monitored...Does not have the timed speed or explosion to consistently get into the second level, making him adequate on sweeps and pulls, but has that short-area power step that lets him get movement off the snap...While Satele shows good balance working in-line, he tends to get too narrow in his base and looks a bit lethargic in his lateral slide (needs to open his hips quicker when changing direction)...Will also get straight-legged when on the move, but he does a decent job of adjusting to shade movement...Lacks the body control to adjust on the move going long distances, struggling to take good angles vs. second level defenders when on the move...Tends to drop his head when engaging linebackers and will struggle to shift his weight and redirect in attempts to wall off.

Compares To: LeCHARLES BENTLEY-Cleveland...Like Bentley, Satele plays with true aggression and knows how to use his strong hand punch to dominate blocking in-line. He keeps his pad level down and has the short-area power base to face up and sustain. He can land and explode on defenders in closed quarters, but is inconsistent maintaining his balance when asked to block on the move.
 
Doug Datish


College: Ohio State Number: 50
Height: 6-4 Weight: 302


Overview



Datish fits the mold of recent Ohio State offensive linemen who have entered the NFL ? versatile, strong and aggressive. The consummate team player, Datish has played every position on the OSU front wall during his career. With situational substitution a major factor in the pros, having an athlete with the ability to play a variety of positions and even handle deep snapping duties is a high priority that will make Datish an inviting prospect on draft day.

His father, Mike Datish, played for the Buckeyes in 1975 when OSU posted an 11-1 record and went to a still unprecedented fourth consecutive Rose Bowl.

Doug is not only a solid performer on the field, but also excels in the classroom. He received his degree in History at the end of the 2005-06 Winter Quarter and is currently attending graduate school.

On the football field, he stepped in at center for graduated Nick Mangold, a first-round pick of the New York Jets in last spring's NFL Draft, and more than capably filled those big shoes. For his career, Datish started 35 of 41 games, starting 14 times at center, at left tackle in 12 games and at left guard in nine others.

Datish was considered one of the top linemen in the nation as a senior at Howland High School. He earned first-team All-Ohio honors as a senior and was a standout on both offense and defense. He was selected as the Associated Press Division II Co-Defensive Player of the Year as a senior.

Super Prep rated him the fifth-best offensive lineman in the country and he earned Prep Star Dream Team honors. Datish also played basketball as a freshman, but concentrated on football his last three years.

In 2002, Datish enrolled at Ohio State, spending the season performing on the scout team as an offensive guard. He appeared briefly in four games at the right guard position in 2003. Hard work in preseason camp saw him earn a starting job at left guard in 2005, where he started nine games. He also started at center for an injured Mangold against Michigan State.

In 2005, Datish switched positions with Rob Sims, taking over left tackle duties while Sims shifted inside to left guard. Datish moved again in 2006, taking over center duties with Mangold in the NFL. He provided stellar pass protection in the pivot, helping quarterback Troy Smith win the Heisman Trophy. Despite his third move in three years, Datish did not allow any quarterback sacks or pressures in 2006, and was awarded with All-Big Ten Conference first-team honors.





Analysis


Positives: Has a well-proportioned frame with good chest thickness, developing upper body arm muscles and has room to add at least another 15 pounds of bulk with no loss in quickness...Natural mover off the snap with smooth footwork in his kick slide and retreat to protect the pocket...Has nimble feet on the move, showing ease of movement sliding left or right...Gets out of his stance quickly and has the short-area burst to block in the second level...Natural knee bender who does an effective job breaking down in space...Very intelligent player who not only calls blocking assignments, but knows the plays for every position on the line...Very alert to stunts and twists and does a good job of firing out of his stance with a strong hand punch to jolt...More of a position-and-sustain type of finesse blocker, but consistently maintains hand position to sustain...Keeps his pads down and plays with a solid base, as it is rare to see him go to the ground...Keeps his feet moving and shows patience, as he won't lunge just to make a block...Quick out of stance on pulls and traps, squaring his shoulders properly while keeping his hands in front to widen the rush lane...Has the hip snap to break down and adjust down field...Shows the alertness and agility to recover in his pass set, sliding his feet laterally to mirror the rusher...Does a good job of getting his hands inside the opponent and generates a functional pop on contact (more finesse though)...Was one of the best deep snappers in high school (not asked to snap in college) and has a snap time average of 7.0 seconds (with an NFL ball)...Has the incline quickness to get into position and sustain.

Negatives: Needs to increase his overall bulk and improve his lower body strength, as he tends to lose anchor at times, especially vs. stunts...Doesn't have the hand punch or brute strength to drive an opponent off the ball...Knows angles and sticks to his blocks, but without more strength he won't be able to match up vs. the bigger NFL nose guards... Must strike with more force (lacks a strong hand punch), but does a good job of keeping his hands inside...Also must be more active with those hands in attempts to lock on and control (still learning how to grab).

Compares To: BRAD MEESTER-Jacksonville...Like Meester, Datish's versatility will see him get drafted higher than his draft stock indicates. He has good short-area quickness and nimble feet, but must learn to shoot his hands with a stronger punch and improve his lower body strength to maintain position vs. stunts. At the Senior Bowl practices, he was having trouble vs. strength moves, which is to be expected due to his lower body power issues. But he also struggled to pick up the quick stunts.
 
So I figured he'd either grow into his body and get big, or else he'd join the circus.

Bwhahaaa!!!
 
Is there a consensus #1 Center at this point or is that all a matter of opinion, scheme in question, etc. ??
 
Front and Center

Is there a consensus #1 Center at this point or is that all a matter of opinion, scheme in question, etc. ??

Most boards have Kalil in front of Satele - but not by much. The combine will help that shake out - but their stats are pretty even going in.

RNK OARNK NAME POS SCHOOL HGHT WGHT 40 PROJ RND
1 58 Ryan Kalil C Southern Cal 6-3 291 5.13 2
2 64 Samson Satele C Hawaii 6-2 294 5.09 2-3

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6421542
 
Kalil is going to grade out 2-3 rounds ahead of Satele.

He's a stronger blocker, has better tecnique, is WAY more athletic, and is in a much more pro ready system. Any center who grades out as 'limited in blocking on the move' will get hurt in the Pros'...

As much as I like H Boy, Satele will be very lucky to touch the third round.
 
I think Khalil really helped his stock during the Senior Bowl week IMO. I'd like to see us snatch him up but I think we'll stay with Grove for one more season.
 
I think Khalil really helped his stock during the Senior Bowl week IMO. I'd like to see us snatch him up but I think we'll stay with Grove for one more season.

Kyle Young is the pick. There are some good day two players. Kyle Young, McClain, Bruce, Martinez, Stuckey etc. I think Kiffin is going to have a field day if Al trust him to make the picks (after the #1 and #2 of course.)
 
Kyle Young is the pick. There are some good day two players. Kyle Young, McClain, Bruce, Martinez, Stuckey etc. I think Kiffin is going to have a field day if Al trust him to make the picks (after the #1 and #2 of course.)

Kalil would be a good fit for us, but at the #33 pick? I dunno.. I'd much rather get a TE there and take Kyle Young in rd 3. I still think Chad Slaughter had a helluva year filling in for Gallery and has simply out played him at LT

I also happen to think Fargas did pretty good as well, with a healthy Jordan and Fargas... I just wouldnt go burning the 1st 3 picks on a RB, unless of course the whole Moss to Packers deal goes through and we get the 16th then I'm all over Lynch if he's there

Slaughter should be our LT and Gallery should be moved back to RT

JaMarcus Russell -QB

Zach Miller - TE

Kyle Young -C
 
Kalil is going to grade out 2-3 rounds ahead of Satele.

I dunno, Satele carries a mid 2nd round grade from what I understand...



[He's a stronger blocker, has better tecnique, is WAY more athletic, and is in a much more pro ready system.

Kalil should have better technique since Satele's only played one year at center, and more athletic okay, but a stronger blocker?... Let's just say I prefer the mauler to the wall off blocker... The strongest argument in favor of one over the other as it pertains to us is Kalil's familiarity with the blocking scheme... With the 34 defense being the rage, I prefer a guy with Satele's lower body strength and abilty to root when facing the Jamal Williams' and Casey Hampton's of the world...

Satele in the 3rd or Young in the 5th is a much better value than Kalil in the 2nd IMO.... I'm a big SC fan, but the push Kalil has gotten to a late 1st-early 2nd based on the SR Bowl is a bit much IMO...


Any center who grades out as 'limited in blocking on the move' will get hurt in the Pros'..

As will 'Needs to improve his lower body strength to prevent the mammoth nose guards from walking him back into the pocket'... ;)
 
I dunno brother, but I just see and hear Kalil is head and shoulders above the rest in this draft class...Kinda like Grove in '03 :(.

Likewise, I seem to hear Mayock and certain draft sites (I know grain of salt sort of thing) lumping Satele in that second tier of centers like Datish, Mozes, Young, Fenton and Leroy Harris.

My personal pick would be snagging a guy like Kyle Young in round 4 or 5...Can you believe he didnt get invited to the combine due to getting kicked of Fresno, for academic reasons?

He is big, strong and I could see him being a real sleeper in April.
 
I didn't watch a lot of those Senior bowl practices on the NFLN but the one day I did it showed Kalil in the 1-on-1 drills and he got a lot of praise for not getting pancaked or put in a position of having to chase the DT but in the drills I saw he would take 3 to 5 steps backwards as he walled off the DT. I was somewhat troubled that he wasn't stonewalling any DT at the LOS.
 
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