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Another thing with Harrison is that he’s completely off the radar for Raider fan so he just hasn’t had the over analysis treatment. I’m sure if we were in the market and in range to draft him, he’d be an overrated slug and next year’s WR class would be better anyway.
 
Chris_77 said:
Another thing with Harrison is that he’s completely off the radar for Raider fan so he just hasn’t had the over analysis treatment. I’m sure if we were in the market and in range to draft him, he’d be an overrated slug and next year’s WR class would be better anyway.
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Fuck he is such a good prospect I think he could have sat out after his freshman year and gone top 7 or so in whatever class he decided on.

Didnt need to run. Took one visit. Didnt do a pro day. He probably didnt need to play the last couple years lol.

As a WR prospect there is Calvin as the benchmark and the best most of us have ever seen. Then MHJ and Chase are tied for me as the second best I've seen in my time.
 
007 said:
Fuck he is such a good prospect I think he could have sat out after his freshman year and gone top 7 or so in whatever class he decided on.

Didnt need to run. Took one visit. Didnt do a pro day. He probably didnt need to play the last couple years lol.

As a WR prospect there is Calvin as the benchmark and the best most of us have ever seen. Then MHJ and Chase are tied for me as the second best I've seen in my time.
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He’s also unique in having his dad who is very much about business but not in an attention seeking sort of way. I might worry about a guy like Caleb blowing things off because it’s about attention with him but not MHJ. The fact that there wasn’t so much as an eyebrow raised for him skipping the entire process is a testament to how his team has handled things behind the scenes.
 
Chris_77 said:
He’s also unique in having his dad who is very much about business but not in an attention seeking sort of way. I might worry about a guy like Caleb blowing things off because it’s about attention with him but not MHJ. The fact that there wasn’t so much as an eyebrow raised for him skipping the entire process is a testament to how his team has handled things behind the scenes.
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I think also in Bruglers "From the scouts" snippets in his guide those guys said: "his discipline and dedication to the craft might be the most impressive part"

His daddy was the hardest working technician in the league on his way to a HOF career. And he made a 6-4 210 pound son who runs a 4.3 and does the same shit lol.
 
007 said:
I think also in Bruglers "From the scouts" snippets in his guide those guys said: "his discipline and dedication to the craft might be the most impressive part"

His daddy was the hardest working technician in the league on his way to a HOF career. And he made a 6-4 210 pound son who runs a 4.3 and does the same shit lol.
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But he didn’t run the cone drill. Have to take points off for that. :pound:

OTOH maybe he’s just the best football player in the draft. :shrug:
 
DonkeyKilla said:
MHJ is going to be good. Will he be great? I don't know. I don't think he's Megatron as a prospect either and if there was a fat bounty to trade back a little I'd pass and take one of the other wideouts and still be happy.
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I think he's aj green for some team. Give or take depending on who his qb is.

Edit - aj green is his floor. Unless injured etc
 
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I'm not sure those clips are the best examples. The first one looked like a clear holding call in the NFL. The pass blocking was a good rep of course but he didn't exactly look quick there. I think a RT should be able to maul in the run game and we definitely need that. I'm not saying he's not it, just maybe those plays weren't best examples to use.
 
Does Fuaga have a better chance of being a plus starter at RT than Arnold does at CB?
 
The verdict: No, not a press-man CB

Neither Mitchell nor Arnold are press-man CB.

Therefore, pass at #13. Either OT or QB.

 
DonkeyKilla said:
I'm not sure those clips are the best examples. The first one looked like a clear holding call in the NFL. The pass blocking was a good rep of course but he didn't exactly look quick there. I think a RT should be able to maul in the run game and we definitely need that. I'm not saying he's not it, just maybe those plays weren't best examples to use.
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Intriguing options with Fuaga, Fautanu and Fashanu. Fuaga looks like the best fit having played RT and could easily start his career at RG. Fautanu and Fashanu would have to flip sides to play OT. Both project as OG as well, particularly Fautanu (less so Fashanu). Parham could move to RG to keep them on the left. I like all three in the order listed moreso than Latham or Mims. I like Guyton over Latham and Mims as well. Landing one of these OL plus Penix would be a home run for me.
 
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007 said:
I’m really starting to warm up to the Pac 12 guard as well!

-delusional Raider fans a week before suicide evening
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Yeah, I realized about a couple weeks ago this isn't going to end well. I tried to do the whole "well, what's the best if not a QB" and probably started sobbing uncontrollably 5 minutes later.

I'm trying to talk myself into "they'll trade up from 44 for the QB!" but I might need to drink more to believe myself.
 
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Intriguing options with Fuaga, Fautanu and Fashanu. Fuaga looks like the best fit having played RT and could easily start his career at RG. Fautanu and Fashanu would have to flip sides to play OT. Both project as OG as well, particularly Fautanu (less so Fashanu). Parham could move to RG to keep them on the left. I like all three in the order listed moreso than Latham or Mims. I like Guyton over Latham and Mims as well. Landing one of these OL plus Penix would be a home run for me.
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A player that is actually versatile and can play either one well has additional value IMO. If he is truly guard only I have a minor issue with the value. If he's a stud at either spot- just get good players.
And before anyone jumps on my of course I would prefer a QB.
007 said:
I’m really starting to warm up to the Pac 12 guard as well!

-delusional Raider fans a week before suicide evening
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We'll get Spencer Rattler and like it!
 
"He could project inside" is the biggest cop-out in draft evaluation. Might as well say McCarthy could be a QB but possibly projects to a placekick holder. OT and OG are two different positions and one is infinitely harder to fill than the other, hence 90% of the OT prospect projections getting hedged by that particular qualifier. If you think a guy is an OG, then project him accordingly and compare the ROI of drafting him in the 1st round vs. others in that positional class. Personally, I'd probably take Arnold over the OT that's really an OG guy since the floor for both seems to be positions of lesser urgency in the first round, and quality nickelbacks are harder to find than guards IMO.
 
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