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Rookie Miller breaking an ugly trend in Oakland


Never before has a two-catch-per-game tight end been so important to the Oakland Raiders.
Zach Miller, Oakland's second-round pick in 2007, has quietly become one of the team's most valuable young assets through the first three games of the regular season.
The 6-foot-5 pass catcher has registered just seven receptions for 54 yards this year, but he has found other ways to show he was worth the 38th overall selection in the NFL draft.
Miller is the Raiders' best pass-eligible extension of the offensive line since ...
I can't remember.
Just take a look at the past decade of tight ends the Raiders have tried their luck with.
Rickey Dudley, who debuted when Mike White was coaching way back in 1996, was perhaps the most respectable of the long list. All the way up until 2003, Dudley recorded 186 receptions for 2,627 yards and 29 touchdowns. That doesn't say much for his blocking abilities, though.
Since then, (take a deep breath), David Dunn, Roland Williams, Doug Jolley, Teyo Johnson, O.J. Santiago, Courtney Anderson, James Adkisson and Randal Williams have all lined up from the tight end spot and caught at least one pass with the Raiders.
See anybody particularly good? I don't.
Of the nine tight ends, including Dudley, none has recorded a 50-plus-catch season in his NFL career. In 10 seasons and counting, rival Tony Gonzalez has achieved that accomplishment nine times.
None were particularly great blockers, either.
Finally, five months ago, the Raiders did something to address their decade-long dilemma.
Oakland selected Miller, who had previously spent three seasons with Arizona State. With the Sun Devils, the Phoenix native hauled in 144 passes for 1,512 yards and 14 touchdowns.
What's ironic was that blocking was considered to be one of the 21-year-old's weaknesses heading into the pros. Several major media pundits such as SI.com and Scout.com mentioned "the strength of his base and his blocking" to be major downsides, but his pass catching to be a major positive.
Thus far, it has been just the opposite.
Miller has shown that he can consistently open holes in the running game; contrarily, in the passing game, he's been rather quiet.
Much of the reason he's been absent in the vertical game, though, is thanks to second-year TE John Madsen, who has 11 catches this season for 146 yards. Madsen splits time with Miller throughout each game, particularly on obvious passing downs.
Perhaps it's that competition that's contributing to the rookie's success on the line.
"Competition is a good thing," Miller said after being drafted by Oakland. "I'm out there to work."
Off the tackles, where Miller is typically lined up, starting running back LaMont Jordan has carried the ball 40 times for 198 yards (just under 5.0 yards per rush). Much of that productivity has come as a result of Miller's ability to take on incoming linebackers and seal the corner.
The 255-pounder has also shown great instincts in pass protection, something recent Raider tight ends such as Teyo Johnson and Courtney Anderson were often criticized for.
"You have to do what you can when you get the reps," Miller said.
Even if it means giving up a few receptions to go head-on with a strongside linebacker.

http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/19644.html

• Anthony Carroll, a senior writer for RealFootball365.com, can be contacted at acarroll@realfootball365.com
 
Every time I read something by Anthony Carroll, I think less of his opinion.

Roland Williams wasn't a very good blocker? Since when? Hey, you want to say that Ro wouldn't stretch a defense and that's fair... but saying the cat couldn't block? That's just stupid.
 
Z.Miller is going to be a great Raider before it is all said and done. Im excited to finally have a FB and TE!
 
Every time I read something by Anthony Carroll, I think less of his opinion.

Roland Williams wasn't a very good blocker? Since when? Hey, you want to say that Ro wouldn't stretch a defense and that's fair... but saying the cat couldn't block? That's just stupid.

I've actually caught flack for being so down on the guy. Nice to have someone reputable in my corner.

Anthony Carroll is a hack who probably hasn't watched a Raider game since Hostetler's back started to take the form of a slinky.
 
What's not to like about this cat?

He runs good routes
He catches everything
He's a heck of a blocker (perfect example vs. Cleveland isolated in pass pro)
Great red-zone option
He's a total-effort guy
Great team-first, coachable attitude
We took him high
He broke Todd Heap's T.E. receiving records at ASU
Not a blazer ala Vernon Davis or Kellen Winslow II but he's fast enough

His opportunities have been scarce so far this season, but that will change gradually. I couldn't be happier to finally have a bonafied tight end on our roster. The days of guys like Roland Williams and Courtney Anderson are over!:woot:
 
I've actually caught flack for being so down on the guy. Nice to have someone reputable in my corner.

Anthony Carroll is a hack who probably hasn't watched a Raider game since Hostetler's back started to take the form of a slinky.

Okay... wait. When the hell did I become reputable? I'm Raider Fan, man. We're all on work-release, remember? I must shower more regularly than you or something. I'll have to do something about that.

Anyway, Carroll has never been particularly good at what he does. What annoys me most of the articles he's written is the blatant plagiarism in his article - this past off-season - about Jon Gruden's interview regarding the hiring process with Al Davis. Hey, asshole... I saw that NFL Films special, too, so I know damned good and well what you're NOT crediting as a source. I mean, that's how much of an amateur we're talking about here.
 
I think with Dante Culpepper starting, his stronger arm & experience, at least in theory, should open the field up more. The WR's will be more dangerous on the deeper stuff which should loosen up the middle for Miller & Madsen. I'm really looking forward to seeing this game on Sunday.

If the offensive line & LaMont Jordan continue to impress on the ground, this offense might actually become respectable.....
 
I think with Dante Culpepper starting, his stronger arm & experience, at least in theory, should open the field up more. The WR's will be more dangerous on the deeper stuff which should loosen up the middle for Miller & Madsen. I'm really looking forward to seeing this game on Sunday.

If the offensive line & LaMont Jordan continue to impress on the ground, this offense might actually become respectable.....

In theory I stand with you. I made a lot of noise about starting Culpepper VS McCown. Fans from other teams have no idea just how solid I think our offense in going to be with Culpepper taking over. I think McCown did, and that's why he wanted to play all busted up, limping and with a broken finger on his throwing hand. He knows that if Culpepper gets this offense firing on all cylinders, and we explode on Miami, he's riding the bench.

The line has been doing a great job the past three weeks. We're 1-2, and I predicted we would enter the bye week undefeated and start this year off with a record of 6-0, but my assumption was that we would be starting Daunte Culpepper over Josh McCown. I ate it on my early prediction, however in my defense I would like to reiterate, we're a couple of bad plays by McCown away from 3-0. We could have easily gone undefeated if McCown were a better QB, or, in theory if we had started Daunte instead of McCown.

I don't think McCown is a terrible QB, but I do think Culpepper is more refined than a guy like Josh McCown. Culpepper brings more to the table. I've said it over and over, and I'll say it again; Daunte Culpepper brings more Pride & Poise to the field. If he's on his best game, he's exceedingly more dangerous than Josh McCown. He's composed, he thinks, he's elusive for his size, he can still run the ball effectively from what I witnessed in preseason, his pocket presence is captivating and he reads the field better than Josh McCown.

With an effective running game, and I don't know where Lamont Jordan ranks in the NFL this week, but last week he was ranked #4, we're going to see our WR corps used more effectively. Last week Mike Williams was a curse to Daunte Culpepper. Had he not fumbled that one ball, and had he caught that perfectly thrown sideline pass Daunte placed right in his hands, we're talking much better numbers for Daunte than what shows right now. Last week Mike Williams pretty much screwed Daunte's stats up.

McCown found Curry WIDE OPEN last week. If we see more of that kind of opportunity this week, where our WR's are running nice routes and torching the secondary, I see Daunte lighting it up and we will be respectable with Daunte opening it up. I've seen him do it time and time again and it never ceased to amaze me how accurate his passes are and how gosh darned composed he is. He's confident, where McCown strikes me as a guy who gets shaken up easily.

If everything pans out the way I think it will in theory, we have a team that can and will turn this season around and shut some peoples mouths, or better yet, make their jaws drop. I feel it. It's like I feel when I play Blackjack and I'm hot and I put out a good wager, then I hit a 21 and the dealer pays me out... That's the feeling I have, and Joey Porter is the guy next to me that stands on a 16. It doesn't matter to the Raiders what Joey says, because we already have a 21. That's the only way I can describe how I feel inside about this game. I'm betting big we're gonna hit, and when we do, we'll celebrate.

We're playing to win. We're playing for a place at the top of the AFC west if Denver loses to Manning and the Colts. A win will be just like a blackjack. I love the feeling and I hope I'm right on with this one, because we all win. And props to Zach Miller for stepping up to the plate. The kid is good. I like him and Madsen. A lot.
 
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We still would have lost to the Lions if Culpepper was the QB. That loss wasnt on McCown IMO. He didnt play well in game 2, but he didnt miss that 2nd FG either. I am glad Pepp is getting his shot, but Josh deserves some credit for bringing us back 2 straight weeks and getting us the lead last week. I hope he stays on as a back-up when JR takes over.
 
We still would have lost to the Lions if Culpepper was the QB. .
I cant agree with that being a lock. The lions defense is doo doo. If we woulda had a qb capable of sharper passes through their porous cover 2 zone they played, we coulda did more damage.
 
I cant agree with that being a lock. The lions defense is doo doo. If we woulda had a qb capable of sharper passes through their porous cover 2 zone they played, we coulda did more damage.

He was 30/40 with 2 Td's although he did have two picks. And im not sure Daunte knew the O yet anyway?
 
I cant agree with that being a lock. The lions defense is doo doo. If we woulda had a qb capable of sharper passes through their porous cover 2 zone they played, we coulda did more damage.
What he said.

McCown was afraid to challenge a bad secondary. Pep likely would not have been so timid.
 
He was 30/40 with 2 Td's although he did have two picks. And im not sure Daunte knew the O yet anyway?

most of that came in the second half and on short throws. Daunte woulda been able to stretch the defense more,so again its not a lock. not even close to one just because McCown was sitting on a nice stat line playing catch up against one of the worst defenses in the league. I wanted to see what philly did. Going deep at will to compliment the rushing. There was better shot for that with C-Pepp. Not saying it would have happened. But theres no proof we lose with DC in there.
 
most of that came in the second half and on short throws. Daunte woulda been able to stretch the defense more,so again its not a lock. not even close to one just because McCown was sitting on a nice stat line playing catch up against one of the worst defenses in the league. I wanted to see what philly did. Going deep at will to compliment the rushing. There was better shot for that with C-Pepp. Not saying it would have happened. But theres no proof we lose with DC in there.

I personally blame the loss on our defense getting pushed around. One of the pic's McCown threw hit Curry in the chest. Again, I dont think Pepp was ready anyway. Pepp didnt have many reps with the first team. McCown was effective enough to win IMO, if our defense played better we would be 3-0. I personally do believe Pepp is a better Qb and can stretch the field much better.
 
We still would have lost to the Lions if Culpepper was the QB. That loss wasnt on McCown IMO. He didnt play well in game 2, but he didnt miss that 2nd FG either. I am glad Pepp is getting his shot, but Josh deserves some credit for bringing us back 2 straight weeks and getting us the lead last week. I hope he stays on as a back-up when JR takes over.

Sorry BigTron, I disagree with you sharply on this point. Daunte wouldn't have been sellin' doughnuts in the first half the way McCown was. 17-0, come on! We should have rolled the Lions, but Kiffin was stubborn and played his loser when all the while he could have been rollin' with his bruiser.

We shouldn't be having to be brought back from deficits. Not with the talent we have and the potential for explosiveness we have on offense.

GO CULPEPPER!
GO RAIDERS!

NO MOSS= NO LOSS!
 
I blame our defense for getting torched by Kitna. We got no pressure and even let Tatum Bell score... I cant blame McCown for week one he had a 93+ QB rating and threw some TD's!
 
I would side with Grim on this one. McGown did throw for 300+ yards and 2 TDs... but there are some other stats that clearly indicate he cost us the game...

- 3rd down passing: 4-12, 1TD, 1INT, 2 Fumbles (1 lost)... His inability to make plays on 3rd down forced us to rely on Jano's leg to finish drives. Sure Jano blew every kick, but we should have been scoring TDs as opposed to relying on long field goals.

- 3 turnovers: led to 17 Detroit points in a game that was decided by less than 17 points. Sure our defense struggled in defending a short field on these turnovers, but McGown's inability to take care of the ball never allowed our defense to get off the field and pretty much smashed our 2nd half momentum.

Bottom line, if we finish drives with TDs (like DC did in Miami) and we take care of the ball (like DC did in Miami), we win this game.
 
I blame our defense for getting torched by Kitna. We got no pressure and even let Tatum Bell score... I cant blame McCown for week one he had a 93+ QB rating and threw some TD's!

Here ya go,
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8022ef7a

Relive the magic.


With all due respect bro, he could not get us into the end zone in the first half and we were shut out at home through 2 quarters of football in front of a sellout crowd 61,542 screaming fans. Granted the defense wasn't ready for Kitna to come out of the gates with guns blazing, but I feel they did enough to keep it close. The defense made some great plays to keep us in the contest. We were up in the 4th quarter!

McCown tried to fight back into the game, and he had a spectacular pass to R. Curry. Nice pass to Griff for a TD as well to get us back in the game... But what about the first half? We were dry! We shouldn't have had to fight to get back into a game at our own house! McCown stalls out a lot. Stalling out and leaving JANO with a 50 yarder to kick, and then have it blocked... And Jano getting blamed for it? I cannot accept that. If anything it's poor blocking and the inablilty of McCown to get us into reasonable position. It's been hallmark for him. I'm sick of him.

So, with 3:21 left in the 4th quarter and the score standing at 26-21, McCown throws a critical pick to kill us in the 4th quarter. That pass to Mike Williams should have never been thrown. Look at the coverage around Williams on that play. We had a chance to win the game and McCown couldn't do it.
Then to fumble away another ball late in the game like he did was unaccepable. Shall I keep going?

Then, the next week he proceeded to continue to throw pick after pick in Denver. We can't afford to do that on the road against a division opponent and call his play "acceptable". We lost two games in a row with McCown under center. We can't afford to lose games this way! We're a potentially great team. We're running the ball very effectively and we're making things happen on defense at times, but at some point Kiffin will have to come to the point where he realizes that McCown isn't the best choice for the starting job in Oakland. I hope it's soon, or it's going to be too late. Give us a chance to win. Start Culpepper and use McCown for your second man.

And if you really want to know who I blame for those two losses, it's Kiffin. Plain and simple. He made a critical error in judgement starting the X Lion twice. I like Kiffin. I think he's done a marvelous job with the Raiders, but I disagree with him to a high degree and feel that he may have jeapordized our chances at the post season by his decison. We lost two very winnable games out of the gates.
 
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