McCown or Walter to Falcons?

Adding Grady would probably mean ditching Brayton.

That could be a huge line for third-and-short, though.

Kelly-Sands-Warren-Jackson
 
i actually think we move Warren to the end spot but thats a lot of beef....
 
Prior to the off season who would have thought that a QB trade with the Falcons would involve us sending them the player.
 
I think you have to get rid of McCown. If we trade Walter, we wouldn't have a guy on the roster with a contract that extends into next season. Russell is not signed and both Culpepper and McCown have 1 year contracts.

How many of you felt good coming into this season with only Walter under contract, A guy who'd struggled mightily under last season's obviously flawed offense? If Russell's contract takes much longer to iron out, he'll have no snaps under his belt going into next season, and he'd be the only guy under contract. I don't see that as a smart way to build a franchise.
 
But you can always extend DC or JM.

Still, I'd rather ship McCown away.

And truth be told, HE might rather be traded, too, if he's not going to beat out Daunte for the job.
 
Rupert - He'll have 4-5 preseason games in 2008 and all of 2007 regular season to get ready to start.
 
Rupert said:
I think you have to get rid of McCown. If we trade Walter, we wouldn't have a guy on the roster with a contract that extends into next season. Russell is not signed and both Culpepper and McCown have 1 year contracts.

How many of you felt good coming into this season with only Walter under contract, A guy who'd struggled mightily under last season's obviously flawed offense? If Russell's contract takes much longer to iron out, he'll have no snaps under his belt going into next season, and he'd be the only guy under contract. I don't see that as a smart way to build a franchise.
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I would agree Rup...If Pepp has a good to great type of year, you're looking at an NFL Probowl Vet who isn't going to work for peanuts not to mention he will want to start not be a number two guy. McCown wants to start as well or have a chance to start which in Atlanta he would be riding on Joeys wings and you can bet Bernard would give him a shot if the team was struggling. Jamarcus is going to be signed not doubt. Kid is not going to go all year without a paycheck...he's not going to risk going into next years draft as the league will look at the "rookie" payscale not to mention risk not being the number 1 pick of next years draft. So, J Rock is the Raiders future, he'll be signed so I don't see Pepp, Andrew or McCown being this teams starting Qb for 2008.
 
I don't see Walter as a good fit at #2 even if Culpepper and McCown are gone after this season. He is still developing in his own right and has little to offer in the the way of mentoring JR. I'm sure better options will turn up by the time we have to worry about the position.
 
Rupert said:
How many of you felt good coming into this season with only Walter under contract,
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I was okay with it. I knew we'd pick up a couple other guys somewhere.

A guy who'd struggled mightily under last season's obviously flawed offense?
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It wasn't Tom Walsh's fault. The players just sucked.


...or something.


If Russell's contract takes much longer to iron out, he'll have no snaps under his belt going into next season, and he'd be the only guy under contract. I don't see that as a smart way to build a franchise.
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As with this offseason, we can find suitable QBs to work with next offseason if need be. I wouldn't personally want to trade Walter. But I'd rather ship him than Tui him.
 
I wouldn't personally want to trade Walter, either. Not with Culpepper a huge question mark as far as his injury is concerned. I think it'd be smartest to keep all three of them, quite frankly.
 
TommyGirl said:
I wouldn't personally want to trade Walter, either. Not with Culpepper a huge question mark as far as his injury is concerned. I think it'd be smartest to keep all three of them, quite frankly.
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This season without question. It's the most prudent move. If/when Russell is signed, Tui, uh I mean McCown, becomes the most expendable. But since it will take Russell time to get up to speed, he'd be best at #4 until he's at least ready to be a backup.
 
Stanny said:
If Pepp has a good to great type of year, you're looking at an NFL Probowl Vet who isn't going to work for peanuts not to mention he will want to start not be a number two guy.
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Yep... if he proves himself effective and healthy, he's certainly going to look for a long term situation/long term contract....

If Pepper proved to be an effective starter, (assuming he's the starter), it leaves us in an interesting situation going into next offseason... I'm sure the general idea was to have JaMarcus as the starter going into the '08 season, but should Pepper play well, JM probably won't see regular season action in addition to missing the preseason games... Just how comfortable would we be heading into next offseason with very little idea of how projected starter JaMarcus reacts to gameday action?...

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that Andrew Walter WON'T be the primary starter, but even if he's not, I think we have to keep him just to have some continuation going into next year... JaMarcus will be playing catchup all year once he signs, and there's no way of knowing how his knowlege of the playbook will translate to the field unless for some reason he finds his way onto the field this season... I think the smart play is to have JaMarcus and Walter as your top two heading into next year instead of having JaMarcus and two new QB's learning the system... Even if Walter doesn't start, I don't think the 3rd round pick we spent on him is an unreasonable cost for a reliable backup QB...

I admire McCown's work ethic and attitude and I really appreciate that his helmet fits on his head way better than Pepper or Walter's, but he looks to be the expendable one at this point if we do decide to cut the 4 to 3 once JaMarcus signs... Though I wonder if there isn't some roster exception or PUP list JaMarcus could be put on since he would be such a late sign?...


On another note, how would any of you like to be a member of a Dolphin's message board should the two guys they let leave (Pepper, Harrington) and the Fish fan favorite they passed up (Brady Quinn) blow up and Trent Green flops?... :eek:
 
McCown has looked horrible, he needs the hook.

Personally, I think Walter has earned his spot by taking the pipe last season and not looking half bad this preseason... dude has a rocket when he can stand in there and launch.
 
hawaiianboy said:
Though I wonder if there isn't some roster exception or PUP list JaMarcus could be put on since he would be such a late sign?...
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I believe there is. I don't know the duration or limitations, but I recall some previous holdout being given the roster exemption until the team was ready to activate him.
 
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