McCown or Walter to Falcons?

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NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Falcons "would love to get their hands on" Andrew Walter or Josh McCown.

The Raiders might be willing to give up either, but would likely ask Atlanta for more in exchange for Walter. McCown would make sense as cheap, short-term insurance behind Joey Harrington, as he's in the final year of his deal.
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Anyone else just see Arthur Blank bending over and Al coming up behind him?
 
Without Russell being signed it is a bad idea to trade either guy.
If Culpepper's knee was not 'iffy' you could pull the trigger on a deal.

If Russell is signed I'd favor moving Walter over McCown.
 
signed or not russel will be a part of this team. and we only really want to carry 3 QBs. Curry can be #3 till russ is signed... or we still have Jeff Otis around too.
 
Andrew Walter-QB- Raiders Aug. 22 - 7:36 pm et


NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Falcons "would love to get their hands on" Andrew Walter or Josh McCown.

The Raiders might be willing to give up either, but would likely ask Atlanta for more in exchange for Walter. McCown would make sense as cheap, short-term insurance behind Joey Harrington, as he's in the final year of his deal.
Related: Josh McCown, Falcons
 
Trade Russell to the ATL for a 2008 1st and a 2008 3rd and ANY DL they will offer up!

Otherwise, I'd trade AWAL for a 4th or 5th or any player they offer.
 
Unless ATL offers a ginormous package for russell he won't be traded. I get that he's not popular for this holdout but lets wipe the sand outta the vages people. He's still our future
 
Which QB goes?
Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on August 23rd, 2007

Now that things appear to be moving along at a brisk pace, given their "three or four" face-to-face meetings since April, you'd think the signing of JaMarcus Russell ought to come any month now.

What happens next?

Unless the Raiders take the unusual step of carrying four quarterbacks on the 53-man roster, either Daunte Culpepper, Josh McCown or Andrew Walter will be released or traded.

"I'm going to figure that out when (Russell) gets here, and we're giong to go with what we have right now," coach Lane Kiffin said Wednesday. "Like I've said before, I've got to get this team ready to beat Detroit with who we have right now, and when he gets here, we'll figure that part out."

Given the strides he's made, the most unlikely candidate to go would be Culpepper. Al Davis made it clear the Raiders wouldn't rush Culpepper into a starting role, likening him to Jim Plunkett as a guy who needed some recovery time.

Culpepper's signing might have even been part of a strategy to get Russell to sign, with the Raiders figuring paying off the $750,000 contract guarantee would be money well spent to get Russell to sign for less.

If that was a strategy, it hasn't worked, and Culpepper's $3.2 million in salary and bonus money will only make it a tighter fit for Russell under the cap. But there was a big consolation prize _ Culpepper has been better than anyone expected.

Aside from a disturbing snap exchange problem, Culpepper has been mobile enough to roll out and complete passes and even ran 13 yards for a first down against San Francisco. He hasn't forced passes into coverage and appears on board with Kiffin's "avoid sacks and turnovers at all costs" philosophy.

Remember when Culpepper played in Oakland in 2003? He passed for 396 yards but turned the ball over five times on fumbles and interceptions. It's precisely the sort of thing Kiffin is worried about.

If Culpepper can get through the St. Louis game by taking snaps without mishap and performing efficiently, he could end up starting in Week 1.

The thought here all along was that McCown was brought in as a caretaker for Russell. But McCown never separated himself by a considerable margin from Walter, let alone Culpepper. Although the most mobile quarterback of the three, and one who is very good on the outside throwing to backs and tight ends, McCown's passing has been erratic over the middle, an area which is prone to the tunovers Kiffin wants so desperately to avoid.

Walter has the most potential in trade value because he remains under contract after this season and has shown resiliency after taking such a beating in the Tom Walsh offense last season.

Given time to pass, Walter has shown that in a dropback, play-action system _ like the one the Raiders had under Norv Turner and Art Shell _ he has the potential to be an NFL starter.

The Raiders don't run that system any more, and the Falcons don't, either. That doesn't mean Atlanta wouldn't interested in Walter on a temporary basis, but ideally for his sake he would land with a team that runs a system better suited for his skills.

WEDNESDAY FOLLOWUP: One note regarding Wednesday's blog items. A blog is not a news story, but a "Web log." It's a running compilation of events and opinions. Lane Kiffin says it's the first-face-to-face meeting between the Raiders and the Russell's agents, and it is reported accurately, word-for-word, within an hour after he said it.

One of the Raiders negotiators calls to say Kiffin was in error, and that gets reported as well, within an hour after the call was received. (Someone in Alameda is paying attention _ I got a call on my cell phone less than 30 minutes after the post).

The negotiator did not dispute what Kiffin said and agreed nothing was misquoted or taken out of context.

There was some polite disagreement with some aspects of my opinion of how the process was going. None of those thoughts will be printed because it was all off the record. That's how the Raiders do business, and it's their prerogative. It was an extremely civil exchange and not heavy-handed or condescending in any way.

My main contention all along has been that both sides should have been much farther along in the process, given Russell's status as the top pick. They weren't. And the face-to-face contact, whether it was "three or four times" or just once, hasn't been often enough for a pick of this magnitude.

The Raiders are not entirely at fault, nor are Russell and his agents.

It's a negotiation. Both sides are accountable, and it ends when they meet somewhere in the middle.

When it does, and the dollars are pretty much what everyone expected they'd be, all that will be left is to wonder why it took so long.
 
Walter has the most potential in trade value because he remains under contract after this season and has shown resiliency after taking such a beating in the Tom Walsh offense last season.

that's a true statement you have to give the kid some credit for coming out there every week and not taking getting any serious injury.
 
Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on August 23rd, 2007


The Raiders are not entirely at fault, nor are Russell and his agents.

It's a negotiation. Both sides are accountable, and it ends when they meet somewhere in the middle.

When it does, and the dollars are pretty much what everyone expected they'd be, all that will be left is to wonder why it took so long.

I'd like to put these statements on a damn T-shirt.
 
I get that he's not popular for this holdout but lets wipe the sand outta the vages people. He's still our future

I never really bought into this kind of reasoning. If this were the NBA and we're talking Shaq or Kobe or LeBron, then I'd be on board with the "he's our future" argument... but this is the NFL. One position or one player is not going to make or break this organization. I have no problem with people hoping this very unproven player can be a franchise QB for the Raiders... but you have to realize that there are people who are equally justified in thinking that trying to develop a franchise QB is a waste of time and money, with or without a holdout.

So you might as well get used to the cat calls to lead pipe Russell... and they necessarily go away if he signs.
 
Jerry McDonald said:
Now that things appear to be moving along at a brisk pace, given their "three or four" face-to-face meetings since April, you'd think the signing of JaMarcus Russell ought to come any month now.

What happens next?


It's starting to feel like the Jamarcus signing will directly correlate to when we make a decision on exactly who is 1,2, and 3 on the QB depth chart....


Given the strides he's made, the most unlikely candidate to go would be Culpepper.

Someone should school Jerry Mac on the Tyler Brayton performance philosphy: "You can't properly evaluate the guy till he does it against the ones." :nono:



I'm guessing McCown is the likely one to go if we get JaMarcus signed... It would be great if we can actually trade him to 'Bernard' Petrino to recoup a draft pick, though it would be certainly be nice to somehow get Grady Jackson in the deal...
 
I'm guessing McCown is the likely one to go if we get JaMarcus signed... It would be great if we can actually trade him to 'Bernard' Petrino to recoup a draft pick, though it would be certainly be nice to somehow get Grady Jackson in the deal...

Why Grady Jackson? Just curious
 
Why Grady Jackson? Just curious


Because he was one of my favorite players when we mistakenly let him go and having a 360 pound country boy to rotate with Sands at NT would make me feel a lot better...

Basically, because it's all about me :D
 
Because he was one of my favorite players when we mistakenly let him go and having a 360 pound country boy to rotate with Sands at NT would make me feel a lot better...

Basically, because it's all about me :D

:eek: *snicker*

I've always liked Gravy Jackson as well. It would be nice to have a mountain to try and move... Im still worry about the Run D :shakehead:
 
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