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Madturk said:
Yah I think there will be a run of OT's in the first. I don't think Vegas goes OL that early anyway, Seems to be a lot of smoke with Vegas taking a wr at 2.36. I don't know if it's indeed just smoke or if they are seriously looking at taking a wr that early.
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If Ilheanchor drops, I think Spytek takes him. But I don't think he will. I do think Lee Hunter will be there and I would not hate that pick.
 
PDX Raider said:
If Ilheanchor drops, I think Spytek takes him. But I don't think he will. I do think Lee Hunter will be there and I would not hate that pick.
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I think Macdonald will be off the board by then. I'm fine with Ilheanchor, Hunter or Christen Miller.
 
Madturk said:
Yah I think there will be a run of OT's in the first. I don't think Vegas goes OL that early anyway, Seems to be a lot of smoke with Vegas taking a wr at 2.36. I don't know if it's indeed just smoke or if they are seriously looking at taking a wr that early.
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My guess it depends on OT, Edges and CB pushing Boston or Concepcion down.
 
DonkeyKilla said:
I think Hunter and Miller will be there but the OTs will be gone.
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Miller is interesting. Some draftniks think his best play is ahead of him (he's only 21), but the college production was meh. Hunter seems pro ready and seems to be a guy who sets a tone in the middle of a D.
 
Madturk said:
I think Macdonald will be off the board by then. I'm fine with Ilheanchor, Hunter or Christen Miller.
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Hunter and Miller are certainly options if targeted OT, WR and CB are off the board and SpyGuy does not trade down. I think it would be between them and Bisontis, Pregnon or fast-rising Rutledge.
 
Sleet said:
Hunter and Miller are certainly options if targeted OT, WR and CB are off the board and SpyGuy does not trade down. I think it would be between them and Bisontis, Pregnon or fast-rising Rutledge.
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Bisontis seems to be in that sweet spot for that pick. Dude is just a good player. JPJ hasn't been a model of health and he can play either guard position.
 
PDX Raider said:
Bisontis seems to be in that sweet spot for that pick. Dude is just a good player. JPJ hasn't been a model of health and he can play either guard position.
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Agreed. And I don’t see SpyGuy leaving Day 2 without an OL, which leads me to believe OG is a real option at 2.36, or SpyGuy will either trade down in the 2nd or trade back into the 3rd for an extra Day 2 pick.
 
PDX Raider said:
Miller is interesting. Some draftniks think his best play is ahead of him (he's only 21), but the college production was meh. Hunter seems pro ready and seems to be a guy who sets a tone in the middle of a D.
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All the DT's have warts this draft.There's no consensus Jalen Carter this year. If Banks didn't have the foot issues, he probably goes off the board first.

It's such a crap shoot with these fatties. I'm guessing Leonard wants a guy with some versatility on the DL. I think Miller is that guy.

  • Versatility to line up anywhere from nose tackle to five-technique gives coordinators multiple looks; he has experience at every spot along the interior and can handle the responsibilities of each.
 
Madturk said:
All the DT's have warts this draft.There's no consensus Jalen Carter this year. If Banks didn't have the foot issues, he probably goes off the board first.

It's such a crap shoot with these fatties. I'm guessing Leonard wants a guy with some versatility on the DL. I think Miller is that guy.

  • Versatility to line up anywhere from nose tackle to five-technique gives coordinators multiple looks; he has experience at every spot along the interior and can handle the responsibilities of each.
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Last two Superbowls were won with deep D- lines. We have literally nothing at that position. We're deeper at edge, but the middle of the line needs help. Miller/Hunter- or a small trade up for McDonald and at least we'd be improving the depth there. Or Orange or Jackson a round later.
 
Madturk said:
All the DT's have warts this draft.There's no consensus Jalen Carter this year. If Banks didn't have the foot issues, he probably goes off the board first.

It's such a crap shoot with these fatties. I'm guessing Leonard wants a guy with some versatility on the DL. I think Miller is that guy.

  • Versatility to line up anywhere from nose tackle to five-technique gives coordinators multiple looks; he has experience at every spot along the interior and can handle the responsibilities of each.
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For Florida natives, why is Jackson not getting any run?
 
PDX Raider said:
Last two Superbowls were won with deep D- lines. We have literally nothing at that position. We're deeper at edge, but the middle of the line needs help. Miller/Hunter- or a small trade up for McDonald and at least we'd be improving the depth there. Or Orange or Jackson a round later.
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Agree completely with your assessment but as important as a DL is, no team is going anywhere without a solid OL, or a solid WR unit or a very capable secondary or even good depth at RB.

Raiders have a lot of holes all over this roster and think Spy could go in almost any direction with BPA in the second round and still hit a need that must be addressed if this team is going to have future success.

He ain't going to address all the needs in one offseason. Like you I prefer to build from the trenches out, but that said if there is a run on those positions, I have no problem with Spy going BPA and picking a player that fills another need on the roster.

I have come to terms with the fact that this is at least a two year process under Kubiak's direction to get this thing where it will really work.
 
signal said:
Agree completely with your assessment but as important as a DL is, no team is going anywhere without a solid OL, or a solid WR unit or a very capable secondary or even good depth at RB.

Raiders have a lot of holes all over this roster and think Spy could go in almost any direction with BPA in the second round and still hit a need that must be addressed if this team is going to have future success.

He ain't going to address all the needs in one offseason. Like you I prefer to build from the trenches out, but that said if there is a run on those positions, I have no problem with Spy going BPA and picking a player that fills another need on the roster.

I have come to terms with the fact that this is at least a two year process under Kubiak's direction to get this thing where it will really work.
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Hopefully he follows the TB and Seattle blue print and gets the trenches sorted out first, preferably the OL. Would be hard to reach for a position of need because we have so many.
 
Madturk said:
All the DT's have warts this draft.There's no consensus Jalen Carter this year. If Banks didn't have the foot issues, he probably goes off the board first.

It's such a crap shoot with these fatties. I'm guessing Leonard wants a guy with some versatility on the DL. I think Miller is that guy.

  • Versatility to line up anywhere from nose tackle to five-technique gives coordinators multiple looks; he has experience at every spot along the interior and can handle the responsibilities of each.
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It's been mentioned previously, should we be talking to the Giants regarding Lawrence?
 
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