Jordan Out For Season - Gallery Too?

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KANSAS CITY, Mo.(Nov. 19, 2006) -- Oakland running back LaMont Jordan is likely out for the season with a serious injury to his left knee.

"Jordan's prognosis is that he tore his MCL (medial cartilage ligament)," Raiders coach Art Shell said after the 17-13 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

Jordan was helped off the field in the first quarter after a 12-yard gain. He rushed for 34 yards on five carries before the injury, bringing his season total to a team-leading 434 yards on 114 carries. Jordan, who went to Maryland, is a six-year NFL veteran and in his second season with the Raiders.

The Raiders also lost starting left tackle Robert Gallery with a dislocated left elbow in the third quarter.

"When I fell, I put my hand on the ground and somebody fell into me and it popped," Gallery said. "They said there was no damage to the bone, which is good. I'll wait until tomorrow to see how much I tore as far as ligaments. We've got six weeks to go. I hope I can get back."

Gallery was a 2004 first-round pick out of Iowa.
 
If I'm not mistaken, Gallery got knocked on his ass
 
Man...

I think we can not have too much of a drop off at running back, but if we roll with Slaughter out there for the remainder it's gonna be tough to steer clear of 2-14. As bad as Gallery has been.
 
donovan said:
Man...

I think we can not have too much of a drop off at running back, but if we roll with Slaughter out there for the remainder it's gonna be tough to steer clear of 2-14. As bad as Gallery has been.
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Ha ha, yeah, how do we replace a wet paper bag with a wet paper towel? Hope this won't negatively affect the pass protection.:eek: :D
 
LaMont hasn't done much for us this year, anyway. He was certainly running hard today before he got hurt, though.

Still, Fargas/Lee/Crockett can get the job done as well as LaMont did.

Maybe Adrian Peterson is in our future, after all.

It appears as though we'll be drafting no later than 3rd.
 
Jack's sore libido said:
LaMont hasn't done much for us this year, anyway. He was certainly running hard today before he got hurt, though.

Still, Fargas/Lee/Crockett can get the job done as well as LaMont did.

Maybe Adrian Peterson is in our future, after all.

It appears as though we'll be drafting no later than 3rd.
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It's all about speed

I just saw LT do a simple kickout and gained 28 yards

He just cut it around the end and turned on the Jets and beat the Bronco corner for fat yards

Lamont Jordan gets tackled for a 3 yard loss on that play

I want a speed RB, one thats quick and can flat out boogie like an LT

No more big slow MF'ers
 
Fargas is a speed RB, but he's a one-cut back who's not likely to bounce it outside. Today he got the same plays Jordan did and got yards in an entirely different way. Jordan bounced and evaded the tacklers in the hole, Fargas hit the hole and either beat them there or took them on. Crockett has more power than Fargas, but doesn't have the top-end speed. Crockett also has a little bit of Marcus's ability to avoid the big hit in the hole, which Fargas does not. I haven't seen enough of Lee to know what he is.

Either way, I'd like an everything back. Otherwise, we're a little too predicatable based upon personnel. It's funny that Gannon could "tell" what we were doing by the personnel in the backfield (and then they fooled him on the next play). I think it was often easy to tell by the WR's. When Porter and Curry were in together I said, "Run," and we ran it. Then they pointed out that Curry was in for Moss and I said, "Run," and we ran it again. We often ran with Moss out of the game.
 
I just want a fluid runner, someone who makes running look natural and easy.

LT, LJ, Curtis Martin, Emmitt ... those guys didn't/don't make running look like work. LaMont seems like he's scratching and clawing for every yard, and then you look up and he's only 4 yards downfield.
 
Jack's sore libido said:
I just want a fluid runner, someone who makes running look natural and easy.

LT, LJ, Curtis Martin, Emmitt ... those guys didn't/don't make running look like work. LaMont seems like he's scratching and clawing for every yard, and then you look up and he's only 4 yards downfield.
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That's a great way to put it. Alotta times I'll watch him do all this juking and finishing by carrying a defender or two.. I'm thinking, "nice run".. .and it's for like, two yards...

I want a back like Frank Gore... I think that's the kinda guy you're looking for... man, he looks good. Goes into a pile at the line of scrimmage and comes out the other end shot out of a cannon.
 
I want Adrian Peterson!!!

PLEASSSSEEEE!!!

**Atleast I'll draft him in Madden...and probally a new QB as well haha!!!**
 
Jack's sore libido said:
I just want a fluid runner, someone who makes running look natural and easy.

LT, LJ, Curtis Martin, Emmitt ... those guys didn't/don't make running look like work. LaMont seems like he's scratching and clawing for every yard, and then you look up and he's only 4 yards downfield.
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The difference is having a quality (or LEGENDARY) offensive line for most all those guys when they were/are producing. We have, arguably, perhaps the worst offensive line (or scheme, take your pick) in the business. So, instead of first contact being 2-3 yards downfield and the RB having to earn that extra 1-2 yards a pop.. he's getting hit at the line of scrimmage and having to earn that 1-3 yards a pop.

However, with a blown knee.. Lamont isn't going to be the same until maybe the 2008-09 season.. so count me in on the 'draft a RB' bandwagon now. Feh.
 
AP is my guy in the first... if we can get him.

If not... BAW - Best Available Wolverine... Jake Long, Branch... either would sit quite well with me.
 
Jack's sore libido said:
I just want a fluid runner, someone who makes running look natural and easy.

LT, LJ, Curtis Martin, Emmitt ... those guys didn't/don't make running look like work. LaMont seems like he's scratching and clawing for every yard, and then you look up and he's only 4 yards downfield.
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WHO DOESN'T WANT A BACK LIKE THESE GUYS!!!!

Last year I heard no complaints about this guy?
Then this year he is hurt and we suck and he is a bum??

Come one guys.........

let him get healthy and let's fix the Line and he will be the back of last year and the one we hoped for.

We some real talent at other positions, RB needs to be addresses since we don't have depth but it isn't where I want to use a real high draft pick on!
 
LJ's a decent back and you almost have to give him a pass this injury with the abortion of an offensive system Tom Walsh has implemented but he's not in the upper echelon of backs like LT, LJ, Tiki. It would be hard to pass on a guy like Adrian Peterson if he's there when we pick which will be the case in most likelihood.
 
Drafting a RB in the top 5 is great, but as teams like the Pats, Colts, Jets and Jags ahve shown, you don't need to draft a RB in the top 5 to get an imidiate impact player at the position. Bush may turn out to be the best RB in last years draft still, but all the teams I listed found a top flight RB much later.

With the depth of RB's coming out this year the Raiders would be well served to trade down ( I know will never happen) or spend an early 2nd on the RB position.

Peterson - great RB, but top 5 is too much to pay with these guys also coming out.
Lynch, M. Buch, Leonard, Irons. All grade out as 1st round/2nd round players.

I think that the Raiders definately need to bring in another RB. Fargas is good for a change of pace, as is Crockett, and IMO Jordan. They need a true starter. Hell draft Irons in the 2nd and run the committee until someone earns the starting spot.

But IMO in the Value to draft spot equation, RB's don't make the top 5.
 
Let's say that we don't draft a running back with our first pick. Let's also assume we're not trading down because we're not. You know we're not going to draft a QB that high -- we've been over this time and again.

So what then? Another OL? A DT? I don't think there is a Peppers type DE in this draft...

OK...Ted Ginn, Jr. --- fast as hell. Looked to me to have pretty good hands. :p (Clearly he's not a top 5 guy)

Man, I hate to draft a WR that high. WR's are easier to come by it seems than RB's in the mold of AP or Lynch. Said it before, San Diego never looked back when they got Tomilison. We could do worse than taking a stud RB with our first pick.
 
We could get a lot of value trading down but we know, as long as the old man is in charge, he's not going to budge. Most likely he'll take one of the wideouts. My biggest fear is that he takes Ginn. Personally I wouldn't be upset if we took a RB later, maybe Michael Bush or Irons.
 
We need to run Crockett a LOT more. The dude's a bull.

I think our best bet on the o-line is to move Sims back to LT and put Badger in at RG.

JMO.
 
Rupert said:
Fargas is a speed RB, but he's a one-cut back who's not likely to bounce it outside. Today he got the same plays Jordan did and got yards in an entirely different way. Jordan bounced and evaded the tacklers in the hole, Fargas hit the hole and either beat them there or took them on. Crockett has more power than Fargas, but doesn't have the top-end speed. Crockett also has a little bit of Marcus's ability to avoid the big hit in the hole, which Fargas does not. I haven't seen enough of Lee to know what he is.

Either way, I'd like an everything back. Otherwise, we're a little too predicatable based upon personnel. It's funny that Gannon could "tell" what we were doing by the personnel in the backfield (and then they fooled him on the next play). I think it was often easy to tell by the WR's. When Porter and Curry were in together I said, "Run," and we ran it. Then they pointed out that Curry was in for Moss and I said, "Run," and we ran it again. We often ran with Moss out of the game.
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We had plenty of opportunities to sign backs like Arlen Harris(spelling?) or grab a couple of FA like KJ Harris. I was not very impressed with the crew we started the season with and thought we needed help in that area. Now I know we do. Fargas is a one trick pony and Crockett lack the speed to be a real threat. I wonder how Echemandu would do? I think we are probably going to find out.
 
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