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By John Ryan

It isn't that Raiders fans have a persecution complex. It's that the persecution complex defines the Raiders fan. The men in the TV are always trying to warp the minds of the true believers.

This time, the believers might be right. Buzz put on the tinfoil helmet Sunday and was (electro)shocked. The Titans, Packers and Bucs are just as bad, and quite a few others are close, but nobody else's misfortune brought such unbridled glee.

• The most curious shot came from Fox's pregame show. After Howie Long finished a dispassionate analysis of what ailed his former team, Terry Bradshaw jumped in.

``The way the Raiders treated my man when he got his Hall of Fame ring in Oakland, the way they treated him, I'm glad they're struggling,'' Bradshaw said.

This is mysterious. News accounts from September 2000 mention only that when Long received his ring, he thanked fans and received polite applause. What's Terry talking about? Could the problem have been something like when Tim Brown returned in a Tampa Bay uniform in 2004 and, Brown said, his wife and children were locked out of a luxury suite until halftime? The truth is out there . . .

• ESPN's Ron Jaworski and Tom Jackson did a pregame segment called ``Patience or Panic.'' ``As a former Bronco,'' Jackson said, ``I say be patient, stay the course, keep doing what you're doing. It is fun to watch from right here where I stand.'' Off the set, but audible: laughter. Mommy, I hear voices!

• On 49ers radio, Joe Starkey noted upcoming opponents, including the Raiders on Oct. 8, and said he's starting a pool about when they might score a touchdown. Gary Plummer -- ex-Charger and ex-49er, and that explains it -- chuckled and said, ``I hate to see that. I always hate to see the Raiders not doing well.'' Mommy, the voices are laughing!

• NBC's ``Football Night In America'' sat at the ski lodge and went through the day's highlights. The first game -- the BIG STORY, above the Giants' comeback and Peyton Manning's 400-yard day -- was Raiders-Ravens. Really?

``If you're an Oakland Raiders fan,'' Bob Costas said, ``you will not refer to what you see as highlights.''

And Sterling Sharpe laughed like it was a Chris Rock show. Mommy, make it stop!

The schadenfreude cut across all lines -- old, young, black, white, player, announcer, bitter rival, Raiders legend. It's not born of jealousy, not in the past 23 years at least.

Is it possible the Raiders have been less than respectful in their dealings with that many people over that many years? Nah. Everybody just decided to gang up.

For no apparent reason.
 
Report: Raiders Nearly Traded Howie Long For Jay Shroeder
by RaidersBeat.com • August 29, 2015 • 0 Comments


Howie Long, the legendary Washington Redskin? If not for Joe Gibbs, it might have happened. According to a recent Washington Post story, it was Al Davis’ infatuation with Jay Shroeder that nearly led the Raiders to trade Long to the Redskins in 1987.

From the Post column, this was Redskins’ QB Doug Williams on how the trade ultimately fell apart:

From what I understand, it was real close on the Monday before the first game, but Coach Gibbs decided not to do it. Those deals are between the Bobby Beathards, the Ron Wolfs and the Al Davises. I just work here.

The Raiders would go on to start three different quarterbacks in 1987 – Marc Wilson, Rusty Hilger, and Vince Evans. Unwilling to watch another season defined by instability at quarterback, Davis traded for Shroeder the following year – this time giving up RT Jim Lachey, who ended up being a three-time 1st-team All Pro with the Redskins.

After not being dealt to Washington, Howie Long went on to play in four more Pro Bowls with the Raiders before retiring in 1993. Shroeder was 32-25 in five seasons as Al Davis’ starting quarterback, including a 12-4 season in 1990 that ended with the infamous 51-3 loss to the Bills in the playoffs.

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Report: Raiders Nearly Traded Howie Long For Jay Shroeder
by RaidersBeat.com • August 29, 2015 • 0 Comments


Howie Long, the legendary Washington Redskin? If not for Joe Gibbs, it might have happened. According to a recent Washington Post story, it was Al Davis’ infatuation with Jay Shroeder that nearly led the Raiders to trade Long to the Redskins in 1987.

From the Post column, this was Redskins’ QB Doug Williams on how the trade ultimately fell apart:

From what I understand, it was real close on the Monday before the first game, but Coach Gibbs decided not to do it. Those deals are between the Bobby Beathards, the Ron Wolfs and the Al Davises. I just work here.

The Raiders would go on to start three different quarterbacks in 1987 – Marc Wilson, Rusty Hilger, and Vince Evans. Unwilling to watch another season defined by instability at quarterback, Davis traded for Shroeder the following year – this time giving up RT Jim Lachey, who ended up being a three-time 1st-team All Pro with the Redskins.

After not being dealt to Washington, Howie Long went on to play in four more Pro Bowls with the Raiders before retiring in 1993. Shroeder was 32-25 in five seasons as Al Davis’ starting quarterback, including a 12-4 season in 1990 that ended with the infamous 51-3 loss to the Bills in the playoffs.

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The more we hear the more we know that Al was batshit crazy long before he got old.That and also doesn't seem like anyone could tell him anything.
 
The more we hear the more we know that Al was batshit crazy long before he got old.That and also doesn't seem like anyone could tell him anything.

Told these fuckers 15 years ago that Al was dead weight.
 
you guys remember those rumors of Al wanting to trade Tim Brown to the Lions for Jerry Ball?

this is when we had Gault and Fernandez, and Timmy hadn't really blown up yet.
 
Al was bad at football.

Yeah so apparently he lost a bit off his fastball even earlier than we thought. Never heard that Howie Long trade rumor. That would have been devastating. And Bradshaw needs a big glass of STFU juice
 
Sounds like Al wasn't using his magic 8-ball, but actually doing 8-balls when making decisions. Now Mark. Dumb runs in that family like a recessive gene.

#straightjacketcurly
 
Sounds like Al wasn't using his magic 8-ball, but actually doing 8-balls when making decisions. Now Mark. Dumb runs in that family like a recessive gene.

#straightjacketcurly
Sounds like Al wasn't using his magic 8-ball, but actually doing 8-balls when making decisions. Now Mark. Dumb runs in that family like a recessive gene.

#straightjacketcurly
Is this sime kind of new revelation?
:chuckle:
 
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