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Tagliabue Reveals Al Davis As The Real Source of Labor Peace!!! from | http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9298321

Days of intensive negotiations have ensured labor peace in the NFL for the next several seasons. Tired but relieved, NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue sat down with Playbook host Paul Burmeister to discuss the difficulties of hammering out this agreement. Tagliabue also reacts to rumors that he might retire soon. NFL Total Access airs Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. ET/PT (aired March 10, 2006).

Paul Burmeister: OK, Commissioner, Wednesday night you said you were more relieved than anything. You've had 24 hours to step away from it a bit, maybe exhale for a while, is that still your overriding feeling?

Commissioner Paul Tagliabue: Well, I think now, probably, I have a little better sense that we accomplished something that was important for the game, important for the league, and for the fans, so maybe I'm getting beyond relief to a little sense that everyone feels they had to give, but everyone felt they gave to get something done ... that was very positive.

Burmeister: So there is maybe a feeling that there was something, a feat accomplished more so than a disaster avoided?

Commissioner: I think so, definitely. I think that when you look back, we discussed dozens and dozens of different ideas internally, dozens and dozens of different ideas with the Players Association, and we did make some really significant structural improvements. Hopefully, they will be improvements. The way the salary cap is going to be structured is different and hopefully better. The way we are dealing internally with some of our internal revenue-sharing arrangements and "incentivizing" teams to build stadiums, help them build stadiums, involve some structural changes. So, it was just not another extension, it was trying to improve and extend and I think in the end that's what we accomplished.

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Al Davis said to me very early in the meeting, "You've got the votes," And I said, "I do?" He said: "Yeah, now you just have to figure out what they're voting on." So I said: "That's not too easy."

But it was only when he said that, after the first four hours, that I finally had the sense that maybe he's right. But then it still wasn't easy to figure out what it is we were going to put on a piece of paper, and say we all agreed to.

And committing the digital media, committing some future revenue streams, and committing to develop them in intelligent ways and dedicating significant pieces of that from the high-revenue teams to fund the revenue sharing that's needed, and also understanding that moving into areas of best practices in helping teams help themselves, I think there was a good feeling that what we agreed to is a good program for both to going forward in helping but also getting people to build their own stadiums and prove their own local presence.

in place in the '60s and through the '70s, in my judgment, and that was basically the thrust of my speech ... so that everybody should try to keep it working, it'd be great for the game and, Al Davis jumped in and said that he's been around 10 years longer than I am, but he supported a good deal of what I had set forth. And I think that Al had a great impact on the meeting because he does have tremendous perspective, and when he comes in and says it's time to make the decision for the good of the game, it has a lot of impact, and he reinforced what I had said.

Burmeister: Were you surprised that it was Al Davis, the one to get up and do that?

Commissioner: Not really, because when I first became commissioner in '89, Al called me and spoke with me on a number of occasions and had some really good advice about how to change the relationship with the Players Association and to make it less adversarial and less confrontational, and build a relationship of respect and trust. We've tried to do that over the years -- Gene Upshaw and I -- and the owners and the Players Association Executive Committee. It's reflected in many things we do, meeting together in Indianapolis at the Combine and talking about safety and issues and the rules of the game, but Al gave me that advice 17 years ago, and it's some of the best advice I've ever gotten, and he and I have always been on the same page when it comes to trying to make this system work fairly.

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Thasnks for that Plunk.

Al seems to be mellowing out in his old age. I'm not sure how bad his health is but he didn't look good. His mind seems sharp as ever but physically he may see the end coming. Not sure but he seems to be more approachable these days.
 
your welcome phil

I notice that too. He may have realize his fighting with tags was lost cause and decided he needed to be more mellow out or like you said he is not good health these days.
 
Bah! Al Davis knew this was good for the Raiders and for football. He loves the game, and would be just as upset to see the league become baseball or basketball as he would be for the Raiders to fade into mediocrity permanently (which a non-capped league would have done).
 
Rupert said:
Bah! Al Davis knew this was good for the Raiders and for football. He loves the game, and would be just as upset to see the league become baseball or basketball as he would be for the Raiders to fade into mediocrity permanently (which a non-capped league would have done).
I think it's a little of both. Al saw this as a potential crumbling of the league as he mentioned. But I also think he's one of the old guard now and is mellowing slightly...I underline slightly, in his old age.

What Al needs to take with him is another Super Bowl Championship. That is why I say he won't go with Walter but will find a vet QB to start the season. Watch him prove me wrong! :p
 
I'm almost certain Al doesn't want to go with Walter, but it depends what they're saying in the warroom. If they're saying there's no way in hell we make the playoffs regardless of a good off-season then he might just go with Walter. If they think there's a legitimate chance, it's veteran city.
 
You think Al has any thought of trading up to take Matt Leinart?

It really makes no sense since we'd be in the same situation we are right now, i.e. rookie QB leading the team. That is like saying we have no shot at maing the playoffs. That's not how Al thinks but then again, Al loves those USC/Hiesman winners.
 
CrossBones said:
Thasnks for that Plunk.

Al seems to be mellowing out in his old age. I'm not sure how bad his health is but he didn't look good. His mind seems sharp as ever but physically he may see the end coming. Not sure but he seems to be more approachable these days.
He looked horrible Bones....I agree, his health cannot be good at all.
 
This is just like every other off-season, Al makes it so you don't know what he's going to do. He makes it likely that every position is a need, or that none are. Last season it was none. This season it's every one.
 
Another quote for Al....

"I think that Al had a great impact on the meeting because he does have tremendous perspective. When he comes in and says it's time to make a decision for the good of the game, it has a lot of impact and he reinforced what I said." - NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue on the role of Raiders owner Al Davis in helping owners decide to enter into an extension of the collective bargaining agreement with the NFLPA.
 
Say what you want but when Al Davis speaks, people listen. :)
 
Tagliabue is retiring. It seems there was speculation,then denial, and now it appears true. After seeing Tags give Al some love this year, the extra incentive of having Tags present Al with the Lombardi next February lost a little luster...

NFL says commissioner Tagliabue to retire in July

Associated Press


NEW YORK -- Paul Tagliabue is retiring as NFL commissioner in July after more than 16 years on the job.

The 65-year-old commissioner has led the league since 1989, when he succeeded Pete Rozelle, and had recently signed a two-year contract extension to complete the television and labor deals.

He finally got that done 12 days ago, finishing the most arduous labor negotiations since the league and union agreed on a free agency-salary cap deal in 1992.
 
It has indeed, but let's get the new bastard to hand that sucker over anyway.
 
Angry Pope said:
Tagliabue is retiring. It seems there was speculation,then denial, and now it appears true. After seeing Tags give Al some love this year, the extra incentive of having Tags present Al with the Lombardi next February lost a little luster...
See ya Tags....don't let the door hit ya!! ;)
 
Angel said:
See ya Tags....don't let the door hit ya!! ;)
Be careful what you wish for.

Ya never know what we might end up with.
 
CrossBones said:
Be careful what you wish for.

Ya never know what we might end up with.
Oh, I know Bones....been reading on who the prospects are....Condoleza Rice??? Let's pass on that one.....Rich McKay, Dick Cass....or Tags right hand man, Goodel have all been mentioned as possible replacements. :)
 
Here are odds on who the next commish will be, Michael Chiklas just missed the list....

Leading Online Sportsbook Posts Odds On Tagliabue's Successor

WILLEMSTAD, Curacao, March 21

Yesterday Paul Tagliabue
announced he'll retire as commissioner of the National Football League in
July, ending a 16-year reign at the helm of the country's most popular sport.
With the NFL's 32 owners now charged with selecting the sport's third
commissioner in league history, PinnacleSports.com today released odds on
who'll replace Paul Tagliabue as the next head of the NFL.

The largest sports betting site on the Internet, PinnacleSports.com has
created individual odds on 15 candidates replacing the retiring Tagliabue. The
early odds favor the owners appointing a successor from within the league
offices as current NFL COO Roger Goodell is an overwhelming 1/2 favorite to be

named the next commissioner. Atlanta Falcons' President and General Manager
Rich McKay, who co-chairs the NFL competition committee, has the second-best

odds at 3/1 followed closely by Baltimore Ravens' President Dick Cass at 5/1.
PinnacleSports.com lists NFL Executive Vice President Jeff Pash at 10/1 to be
promoted to the commissioner's office, while television executives Steve
Bornstein and Sean McManus are both listed at 20/1. Although she expressed
interest in the position in the past, current Secretary of State Condoleezza
Rice is a 100/1 long shot to become the first female commissioner of a major
sports league.

"By playing a major role in league expansion, labor negotiations and the
direction of NFL properties, Roger Goodell has solidified himself as the
leading candidate to become the professional football's next commissioner,"
said Simon Noble of PinnacleSports.com. "If the owners decide to go in another

direction, Rich McKay would be a logical choice as he's highly regarded in
every league circle and has extensive NFL experience. Nominating Condoleezza

Rice would certainly be a coup for the league, but the State Department
already said she'd decline the position despite her love of the sport."

PinnacleSports.com lists the likelihood of current NFL owners Jerry Jones
and Daniel Snyder replacing Paul Tagliabue as league commissioner as long
shots at 100/1 odds. Former Oakland Raiders' coach and longtime NFL
broadcaster John Madden is listed as a huge underdog for the position at 200/1

along with his sidekick in the booth, Al Michaels. Should the owners decide to
go the political route, they could select former President Bill Clinton
(200/1) as football's next commissioner. PinnacleSports.com also lists Terrell
Owens' agent Drew Rosenhaus and Hall of Fame quarterbacks John Elway and Dan
Marino as 200/1 long shots to succeed the outgoing commissioner.


Current Odds: *All odds subject to change*

Who Will Be The Next Commissioner Of The NFL?

Roger Goodell 1/2
Rich McKay 3/1
Dick Cass 5/1
Jeff Pash 10/1
Steve Bornstein 20/1
Sean McManus 20/1
Condoleezza Rice 100/1
Jerry Jones 100/1
Daniel Snyder 100/1
John Madden 200/1
Al Michaels 200/1
Bill Clinton 200/1
Drew Rosenhaus 200/1
John Elway 200/1
Dan Marino 200/1

About PinnacleSports.com
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largest sports betting site serving customers in more than 80 countries
worldwide. Founded in 1998, PinnacleSports.com was the first sports book to
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and casino gaming.
 
I also read Amy Trask might be considered. :)
 
Angel said:
I also read Amy Trask might be considered. :)
You're drunk AGAIN. :p

Amy will be in charge of the Raidahs when Al is gone.
 
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