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-- That was a bad call. You know it. I know it. The world knows it. When Burress did it, it was a fumble. Every other time in league history that a player has lost control of a ball forward of himself, it has been a fumble. This was a fumble, too.

-- San Diego radio and fans actually trying to spin this into a correct call was eerily reminiscent of New England fans and radio guys. Only now, instead of the sensible ones saying it's payback for Sugar Bear, these guys are saying it's payback for the Holy Roller.

-- San Diego fans are pussies. No offense, Tommygirl. Chris Rock has a routine in one of his stand-up acts where he's talking about domestic violence and he's like, "Now I ain't saying it's right to hit a woman. You NEVER hit a woman. So I ain't sayin' it's right ... but I understand." That's the way I felt at the game. When a fight broke out in the cheap seats and you could see some Raider fan swinging away on someone (never actually saw who), I empathized with Rock's thoughts. I mean, it's not right to resort to violence. You NEVER hit a pussy unless it hits you first ... but I understand."

-- An awful lot of San Diego paraphernalia is devoted to Raider-hating. You saw it all over the stadium.
"Raiders suck."
"Fuck the Raiders."
"Raider Hater 4 Life."
"Jesus Hates the Raiders."
It occurred to me that they spend as much time hating us as they do loving themselves. We don't feel the need to put their logo on our clothing, though.

-- Warren Sapp got held ALL DAY LONG, and I don't think he got a single call to go his way (including the LT pass to Gates).

-- Randy Moss ... just leave. If you're going to WALK your routes, I have no use for you.

-- Sebastian Janikowski didn't look like he even starting running on the Cromartie return until Cromartie passed him.

-- MacGregor's seems like a cool place to watch the ball games in San Diego, but the food sucked.

-- Aaron Brooks: Man, I wish I knew what to make of this guy. One of my great fears is that he will play just solid enough to get a contract extension. I just can't trust him, but I have to admit he's playing a lot better than Walter. His escapability often turns a 3-yard sack into a 10-yard sack, but at least he's giving us a chance to make plays out there.

-- Fargas continues to run very hard, even though he's not very productive.

-- Oakland has outplayed two divisional opponents in a row, only to lose by one score each time. Five down, one to go. Please, let's beat KC and knock them out of the playoffs.
 
This was probably the worst officiated game I've seen in a long time and not because it involved the Raiders. Aside from the blown fumble call, Eric Parker dropped that critical 3rd down pass in front of the official and it was ruled a catch. Instead of challenging the play, dumb ass Shell uses our last TO. But previously he challenged a call where Jammer obviously did not step OB.

They also blew an obvious false start on the SD RT earlier which resulted in a pass completion for a first down. That was so blatantly obvious but the refs chose to ignore that. I also saw a blatant hold on Brayton on a toss to LT that resulted in a nice gain. I do believe that on the HB option to LT that one of our DL (can't recall which) was tackled on the play. That should have negated the TD. Also a horse collar on Madsen was ignored.
 
Did I see correctly that if the playoffs started today the Chargers, Chiefs and Broncos would all be in?
 
Madturk said:
They also blew an obvious false start on the SD RT earlier which resulted in a pass completion for a first down. That was so blatantly obvious but the refs chose to ignore that.
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I remember calling that out to my friends, and being relatively amazed that it was ignored completely.
 
Oh well, we were screwed by refs again, but we gave them (both refs and chargers) the chance to do so. The second half was bad for us -as usual- because the chargers did the best adjustments. Also Jano missing an easy FG didn't help. The sack and further INT on brooks were devastating. What's the use of having a good game as a QB only to drop it out in one or to plays? Brooks has all the tools, but his poor decision making will haunt him the rest of his career. You don't win games with a guy like Brooks in control. But we knew that from him already.

As for Art Shell he challenged a bad play, and he didn't challenge when he had to. Though that's Tom Walsh responsibility. He didn't do much in halftime, though the game plan was good... for a half.

In the end we lost a game we deserved to lose, even if we dominate the game for three quarters. You win by scoring more points not by stopping the enemy for a while. When are we gonna socre more than 20 points consistently?

I've said there are infinite ways to lose and a very few to win, and seems like The Raiders are exploring deeply the first option. You can blame the refs, the league, the offensive line, Brooks ill decisions making, Walter's lead boots, Moss lack of attitude, lots of excuses, but the awful truth says this is not a good football team.

Is there an improvement? maybe, but we already had the same defence for two years under Turdner, so performance is not a merit of the new coach. As for the offence, its still as incompetent as usual. The fact Aaron Brooks can escape from many sacks, doesn't solve the equation. This is one of the worst teams in the league right now and to wipe out this opinion they just have to... win more games NOW. Its the only way to redeem yourself. "Next year" is always the proposal of losers. Against Houston we may have a legitimate advantage. But wait... they just defeated us not so long ago...
 
Jack's sore libido said:


-- An awful lot of San Diego paraphernalia is devoted to Raider-hating. You saw it all over the stadium.
"Raiders suck."
"Fuck the Raiders."
"Raider Hater 4 Life."
"Jesus Hates the Raiders."
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I found that interesting in my visits to Qualcomm as well... but back then it seemed like the ratio of Raider fans to Bolt fans was 1:1... don't know what it's like now that the Bolts have a legit team to present... Great place to watch a game in any event...



-- MacGregor's seems like a cool place to watch the ball games in San Diego, but the food sucked.
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That the pool hall?...


* How sad is it when scoring 14 points and having your QB go 17-30 187 yards and 2 picks consitutes an offensive explosion?... At least we posted a touch in the second half... That's something, I guess...

* Can't pin all of it on Walsh this week though... We're finally doing things to help the QB and O-line in terms of utilizing the shotgun, consistenty using three WR sets and getting the backs involved in the pass pattern.... Why we waited till mid-season is something only Teflon Tom knows... Maybe it's just me but it seems like we've been inventing a playbook as we've gone along, not exactly a great sign IMO... A much better job by Walsh but far from anything one would label past pedestrian and still not something I'd look to emulate if it were another team running it... and as mentioned, the process of getting the play from coordinator to QB to the line of scrimmage is still too slow and it's costing us time outs in every game... With 5 preseason and 11 regular season games under our belts, you would think it's something that wouldn't still be a problem...

Between the lack of production from the offense, the wasting of time outs, and Art's mismanagement of challenges, we look an awful lot like an expansion team outside of the defensive side of the ball.... :(

* Nnamdi

He's clearly reached the stage where he's just reacting as opposed to thinking then reacting... He's playing at a very high level right now... Kind of what we expected from Sir Charles when he was cashing those huge game checks Keep it up Aso...

* Madsen

White boy is looking good out there... I still think we'd be better off playing him at WR next year and getting a legit TE in here...


* Tomlinson

He's going to get his in every game, but at least this time we made him work hard for it... Good job up front of maintaining gap discipline and letting Morrison and Howard clean up...

* It seems like we've been involved with about 90% of the controversial calls/games since the league began... Immaculate Deception, Holy Roller, Heidi Game, Tuck game, Wood hydroplaning a fumble recovery into a safety, Rob Lytle, Ben Dreith and on and on....

I'm numb to it already... At least this time it also hurt the Chiefs in the process...
 
Stu just flat out sucks monkey balls

This guy cant tackle worth a sh*t

He had LT for a minimal gain in the flats until he tried to ankle tackle him when he scored the 3rd TD

That kinda sh*t is killing us

Kudos to Huff for a solid game

I still say he needs to be moved to FS and bring in or draft a SS that is not afraid to make contact and can tackle in the open field

Becasue Stu simply cannot tackle

He his horrible

Speaking of Jano

We need to dump him as well

He's too inconsistant

Theres a cat I want you all to pay attention to

A junior from Rutgers that graduated from my HS

Jeremy Ito

I saw this guy kick agaisnt my USF Bulls (Who by the way knocked out #7 ranked West Virgina.. can the Nips get a little love?)

Anyways.. I'm telling ya, this kid Ito is frekin money

He was booting every kick out of the endzone like 98% of the time

strong leg.. very consistant and accurate kicker

He's a junior and might not declare, but if he does, We should really consider this kid

If not next year for sure

If you guys get a chance to see Rutgers play... Check this cat out
 
oh no. There's our first round pick!
 
The fact Aaron Brooks can escape from many sacks, doesn't solve the equation.
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nope but i fear it will complicate matters if it buys Walsh more time as our OC.
 
Yeah Charger fans are a contemptible little bunch of punks aren't they? I've been to many a game in SD. Great city, too bad Charger fans reside there.

Great posts to start the thread.

Agree about Madsen, but (and yes, I'll pat myself on the back) I've been touting PT for him for a while. Yes, Wr. Yes, WR.

Moss - Art's single biggest failing is the failure to bench (and ultimately suspend) this asshole. To think I was such a huge fan of the trade when it was consumated. Silly me.

The defense and many of the guys on this team deserve better for their collective effort. Say what you will, but this team has far from quit. Art should get a few brownie points there.

BTW, my girlfriend now refers to Art as the "Country Bear Jamboree". LMFAO

Brooks? Shit, I don't know. He does look better, but his detractors are being proven right in each 4th QTR. Plays decently earlier, but damn his mistakes are glaringly late (and BAD).

Now that Walsh is gone, I must admit that it will be curious to see if Shoop can make chicken salad out of chicken shit (IMO) on offese.....
 
LOL @ Country Bear Jamboree

haha!
 
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