Frampton Comes Alive......

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Sorry guys I had to do the "Title" of the thread......

Really, how many times are we gonna see in print or on sportscenter this if this kid make a impact......


http://www.realfootball365.com/nfl/articles/2007/05/raiders-ericframpton-headhuntingwithasmile070507.html


You wonder -- does the "character issue" ever work in reverse?
If players with obvious physical skills often slide down the draft ladder because of some transgressions in their past, does it follow that other players might move up based on their clean records?
Not a chance -- in the NFL, "character" is a one-way street. If the coaches really like you and you don't perform to their expectations, they may feel a little worse when they cut you.
Thus, fifth-round Oakland draft pick Eric Frampton will get no points for a glowing recommendation from Bill Doba, his coach at Washington State, who called him "a sweet kid."
A sweet kid who will knock your head off if he meets you on the football field.
Frampton explained that discrepancy in one of his pre-draft interviews, saying, "I really love people, until I get on the football field. Then it gets competitive."
A first-team All-Pac 10 pick at safety, the 5-foot-11, 205-pounder was being talked about as a second- or third-round pick prior to the NFL Combine. That changed after he ran a 4.64 in the 40 in Indianapolis, among the slower times of all the invited defensive backs.
Yet Oakland coach Lane Kiffin remembered Frampton's tenacious, physical play against his own star wideout, Steve Smith, at Southern Cal last season. Frampton had 13 tackles in that game.
A native of San Jose, Frampton is apparently a devout Christian kid who is nice to his parents and made 100 tackles last season. He saved his biggest performances for the biggest games, including 16 tackles against Oregon. He had five interceptions, returning one for a touchdown against arch-rival Washington, and eight pass breakups.
According to scouting reports, Frampton's forte is flying up to the line of scrimmage from his safety position and smacking people. What remains to be seen is whether he can cover pro receivers consistently.
Actually, that may not be a problem this season. With Darnell Bing moving back to safety to join Michael Huff and Stuart Schweigert, Frampton -- if he makes the team -- will probably see most of his action on special teams.
But then again, you never know. Frampton picked off five passes last season, and, as mentioned earlier, returned one 43 yards for a touchdown against Washington. And another point in his favor is that he never lost any playing time to injuries in college. Ever.
True, he's not that fast, as safeties go. But maybe he doesn't realize that.
And at least the other guys will probably like him
 
"When someone drops a cup and I submerge
I'm swimming in a circle
I feel I'm going down
There has to be a fool to play my part"

**Enter**

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If you watch tape of him his playing speed isn't slow.
 
If you watch tape of him his playing speed isn't slow.

It's easy to complain about him either way. If he ran a 4.3, you can scream, "Workout warrior!". He runs a 4.6, and the question is, "Why are we drafting some guy to be a backup? He can't start at that speed!"

I am just convinced that some people are determined to find a negative. Johnnie Lee Higgins convinced me. "Runs fast? Must be a track star! Al musta made that pick!" Didn't realize we had so many UTEP homers around. :rolleyes:


/Rant
 
Derrick Gibson (if my memory is correct) had all the measureables you would want in an NFL safety, but "played slow".

I bet that Frampton "plays faster" than his 40' time. Bahh.
 
And for the love of God, that font.

:eek:
 
Whoever it was that said Huff will eventually be moved to FS with this kid playing in the box, yeah, I agree with him.
 
Drafting a db that runs a 4.64 forty, never thought I'd see it. Al is loosening his grip no doubt. Nice to see some change.
 
Do You!----- You!-------Field Like I do !!!!


LOL:D
 
Is it just me, or is a low 4.6 40 not all that slow for a SS :confused:

Some a the oldtimers in the league have got to be much slower than that.
 
Didn't Jerry Rice run a 4.6?

Seriously.. two TENTHS of a second is all the difference we're really talking about here between 'OMFG FAST' to 'OMFG SLOW!' ...

Add to that, all of these 40 times are done with these guys running in tights.. what the hell IS that about anyway? Who gives a flying F how fast they are in their underwear.. put some damned pads on them and THEN let's see how they do. I will never, ever, understand why these guys are made to work out in anything other than full pads.
 
.2 is about a half yard over the forty yard dash...

If my SS is running 40 yards in a line, Im more worried.

I think Frampton has the hip swivel and intensity to do some damage in the box or in coverage.

Im more worried about him being 5-11 200 pounds as a SS.
 
.2 is about a half yard over the forty yard dash...

If my SS is running 40 yards in a line, Im more worried.

I think Frampton has the hip swivel and intensity to do some damage in the box or in coverage.

Im more worried about him being 5-11 200 pounds as a SS.

Agreed. If we are concerned about Huff's lack of "beef" at SS, what about this cat?

I could see a platoon situation with Frampton/Bing at SS and Huff/Schwiegert at FS.

I think Jarrod Cooper is the odd man out here if Frampton has a good preseason and can play well on ST.....
 
Good point.

I still see us running with Huff-Stu as the starters, and Bing as the Big nickel (Gibby's old role)

Frampton is apparently a ST demon, and Cooper can fill in at FS and SS, as well as being the captain on ST.

5 safeties plus BJ Ward on the bubble isnt too much, considering we might only run with Aso-Fabs-Routt-Bowie at CB (Carr and Starks are on the bubble, especially if Higgins and Rhodes can return kicks)
 
Carr may be able to stick as a swing guy, he played safety as well in college, I thought.
 
A lot of competition there. BTW, wouldn't it be something if Bing is the odd man out? Could happen.
 
I don't think his size is a problem depening on his build. I think most worry about Huff becasue he's high cut.... but I always think of Mike Minter as a smaller guy that's played alotta quality years and had some impact.
 
One way that Frampton makes up for his 'lack' of speed is he's got good instincts.
 
No matter how you slice it, this is a good problem to have.

A few years ago we were trying to decide if Johnnie Harris or James Trapp should start instead of Marquez Pope or Anthony Dorsett...

Now we have rotation of capable guys who can make plays at both safety spots...

#1 secondary baby, Woo hoo!
 
I fucking loved Johnnie Harris! Kid came out of the Arena League and made a couple of plays. I'm not saying that he was all world... but I can't let you badmouth the guy. He was a kick ass underdog to root for.
 
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