Former Raider Vann McElroy to represent our 1st round pick

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Ah... so i'm guessing you know something cause that means Chris Long is falling to us at 3rd or 4th???
 
Maybe Howie and Art already spoke and said we take him if he is there.
I would be thrilled with either him or McFadden.....!!!!!
 
I think it's more to signify the fact that Howie and Vann were teammates and he's trusted by the Long family. Not too much to read into here, if you ask me.
 
ok Rnat you know the rules. Check out your "posting in football forums handbook"

Chapter 3, sub-link A, 3rd bulleted point clearly states...

Discussions pertaining to any draft hi-jinks should not be justified, explained or rationalized in the off-season.
 
Vann was the man as a player. IIRC, in his first NFL game, he ruptured Steve Watson's kidney.

Can't go wrong with this kid, or Dorsey.
 
Yeah Natty is right. Much ado about nothing. I'm thinking the Long family is secretly hoping he doesn't get picked by Oakland for the obvious reason of being under his father's shadow.
 
After watching the standoff between Al and Russell's virgin agents... I think this is a great sign that we'll be negotiating with a trusted and familiar face........

Though I think it's laughable that some of us are still there's a chance that Long lands anywhere but here... Long's the pick and McElroy is cutting the deal. So what's the problem? Bunch of fucking black clouders. Your negativity is sickening.... :rolleyes:
 
Does Vann have a kid we can throw back there at safety?.... Loved that dude...


Being a top 5 pick = Pressure

Being a top 5 pick when your old man was a Hall of Fame Player at the same position = A lot of pressure

Being a top 5 pick when your old man was a Hall of Fame Player at the same position with the same NFL team you just got drafted by = Holy shit! :huh:

I gotta think that Howie is hoping like hell his boy ends up with Parcells...


Not that it would make a difference, but am I correct in remembering that Howie wasn't exactly an Al Davis fan?...
 
I concur but look at the flip side. From a Raider marketing and ticket sales standpoint, it would be a big shot in the arm. Al has a Bones like metamucil induced flashback to 1983. Absolute genius. Then we draft one of the big hogs in round 2.
 
Chris Long in round 1
+
Pat Sims in round 2
=
Way better defense!

BUT...is this better than us going with

Darren McFadden in round 1
+
Malcolm Kelly in round 2
=
Way better offense!

It's a tough call no matter how you slice it.:shakehead:
 
Chris Long+ Pat Sims= Bonerific.

Sign me up for Boss Bailey and Bernard Berrian too.
 
Freakshow said:
BUT...is this better than us going with

Darren McFadden in round 1
+
Malcolm Kelly in round 2
=
Way better offense!

It's a tough call no matter how you slice it.:shakehead:
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It's an easy answer from the Raiders organization standpoint. Not necessarily my opinion but...

``...we didn't score enough" ~ Al Davis
 
hawaiianboy said:
Not that it would make a difference, but am I correct in remembering that Howie wasn't exactly an Al Davis fan?...
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There is an anecdote in "You're OK, it's just a bruise" about a time in the locker room when Al wanted Howie to play with a gash on his head, or something, but the doctor wouldn't let him out there without properly treating it.

Can't remember if Howie was on Al's side of that or not.

I do remember that Howie was pissed because he played a season at DT but Al had him listed as a DE for the Pro Bowl ballot, which basically cost him a spot in Hawaii because his sack totals as a DT would not stand up to other DEs, but would have been strong enough to get him in at DT.
 
You know, the idea behind this system is that a decent RB who would be a 4.0 ypc guy somewhere else can be a 4.5 guy here.

But then does it follow that a guy like McFadden, who is expected to be a 4.5 ypc guy somewhere else could be a 5.5 guy here?
 
Regardless of the system a playmaker is a playmaker. LT would be dangerous no matter what system he is in.
 
Chris Long all the way baby...

I want some rampant blood sucking zombie like DE just storming off the middle... Pancaking the fuck out of Left Tackles and absolutely nailing the Quarterback from that blind spot...

While it may be good seeing McFadden move the chains and us get our first downs, I'd rather see Jake Plummer and Philip Rivers get taken off in stretchers of golf buggies cause Howie Jr wasn't in a good mood and had to take out his punishment on some scrub.
 
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