Detroit Lions Vs. Oakland Raiders

BTW, the Saints, as I expected look vastly overated. I think they have a big come down this year. Then again, the Colts look like a damn good team.
 
BTW, the Saints, as I expected look vastly overated. I think they have a big come down this year. Then again, the Colts look like a damn good team.
I agree. I'm thinking that in spite of all the Saints hype they aren't all that good. Reggie Bush looks pedestrian. He looks really small. Exciting but probably not all that in the pros.

The Saints aren't going to catch anybody by surprise this season.
 
I agree. I'm thinking that in spite of all the Saints hype they aren't all that good. Reggie Bush looks pedestrian. He looks really small. Exciting but probably not all that in the pros.

The Saints aren't going to catch anybody by surprise this season.

He seems like a much bigger threat catching the rock, ala that dude that played HB, WR and KR for the Browns (and the Raiders briefly) some years ago. What the F*&K was his name?????

I hope our defense plays as "badly" against the run as the Colts defense has the last few games dating back to the last years playoffs. :)
 
He seems like a much bigger threat catching the rock, ala that dude that played HB, WR and KR for the Browns (and the Raiders briefly) some years ago. What the F*&K was his name?????

I hope our defense plays as "badly" against the run as the Colts defense has the last few games dating back to the last years playoffs. :)

Eric Metcalf?

Anyways, I actually thought Reggie looked pretty good.

*shrug*
 
Man Brees looked real small out there today. N.O. better straighten out there CB situation. That guy made PBuch look like Mike Haynes.
 
Eric Metcalf?

Anyways, I actually thought Reggie looked pretty good.

*shrug*

I don't know...12 carries for 39 yards and looked to go down pretty easy. He has all the talent and skill in the world, but seems to miss alot of open holes.
 
From the Lions perspective...


Line will set tone for defense
by Tom Kowalski
Friday September 07, 2007, 7:51 AM

ALLEN PARK -- While there is a lot of fan anticipation about the Detroit Lions' explosive offense heading into Sunday's season opener against the Oakland Raiders, there is plenty of skepticism about the team's defense.

Last year, the Lions showed flashes of greatness on offense. And they made some improvements in the off-season, including adding wide receiver Calvin Johnson, the second overall pick in the NFL draft.

The Detroit defense, meanwhile, added just one new starter -- left defensive end Dewayne White. Rookie cornerback Gerald Alexander also will be in the starting lineup, but only because of a season-ending knee injury to Daniel Bullocks.

The Lions had the 28th-ranked defense in the league last year, 21st against the rush and 25th against the pass. Opposing quarterbacks completed 66.3 percent of their passes against the Lions, by far the highest percentage against any defense in the league. As a result, no NFL defense spent more time on the field than the Lions.

And yet, the Lions defenders, now in their second season of the Tampa Two system, are excited about showing what they've got. Their optimism is buoyed by the talent on their line, the group that is supposed to spark the entire defense.

"I'm very excited, about the team, about the defensive front, about the defense. I'm excited about the year. I can't wait to get started," said Lions backup defensive end Jared DeVries, who is well aware of what the critics think. "That's fine if they want to think that. We know what's in this locker room."

Said right defensive end Kalimba Edwards: "I'm excited for (the fans) to see what we can do. We already know what we can do."

Edwards and White, along with defensive tackles Shaun Rogers and Cory Redding, are under the most pressure. It all starts with them.

"If we don't get it done, our whole defense hurts," said White, a free-agent addition from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. "We're the foundation of the defense. If you build a house on a bad foundation, there's going to be a crack here and there and it won't be standing long. That's how we should feel as a defensive line.

"If we don't put pressure on the quarterback so the ball will be out (passed) quick, it hurts the secondary and linebackers. It's the same thing with the run, if we don't make them block us, the linebackers won't be free. Everything rotates around the defensive line."

The Tampa Two system is based on timing, and it is the defensive line that dictates that. The pass rush must force the Raiders quarterback -- Josh McCown or Daunte Culpepper -- to throw quickly.

"Coach (Rod) Marinelli has been saying from the beginning that it all starts with our front four," cornerback Fernando Bryant said. "In this system we have, if they can get pressure, it makes our job a lot easier. Our scheme is based on that, for us to do the things we're supposed to do, as far as reading the quarterback and breaking on the ball before it's thrown."

If the quarterback has time to pump in one direction and then look -- and throw -- in another direction, the defense is lost.

"That's how coach Marinelli describes it," Bryant said. "If he (quarterback) has time enough to look one way and go back the other way, he (Marinelli) believes there's no way you can cover that."

It also will be important for the Lions to quickly establish a tempo at the line of scrimmage. They have to get the much-maligned Raiders' offensive line on its heels and keep it there.

"It's always important to start fast; coach (Marinelli) always says 'Play at our level, set our tempo.' Once you get that first series together, we'll start meshing," White said. "We all know what we've go to do."
 
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Frankly, I'm more worried about who is going to cover the slot receiver in all the three wide packages Martz runs than I am about who is going to play QB for us... That freakin Mike Furrey is a little pain in the ass...

Is Carr still the nickle or is it Routt who has missed most of the preseason?...

That Martz offense generally craps out if you can disrupt the timing by getting to the QB early so hopefully Sapp and Burgess are on their game...
To be honest, that was my exact concern. Someone somewhere said we can man up with their top two, and I agree, but they will bring out 3WR very often.

I think our first way of handling it will be the big nickle 4-2-5 with Ward handling the SS duties and Huff in coverage. I don't know if that makes me too happy about our coverage, but we'll have to cover our asses against the run, and if we go with Carr we're certain to see a heavy dose of running on early downs. We can swap Carr for Ward on 3rd and long.

Personally, I think Routt is going to have to work into game shape. He might even be inactive Sunday, regardless of how sphincter tightening it is to think that Chris Johnson could get some reps.
 
I know.

Though I litteraly stopped watching ALL TV about 18 months ago. Even last year I watched games at Sports bars, online (crappy quality) or listened to the radio. I've decided to watch them on TV this year at home (yes, I plugged in the basic cable about 3 weeks ago), but paying for TV doesn't jibe well with my "minimalist" existense.

By minimalist, I mean the 3 neccesities of course: Roof over my head, car and pu**y. :D

Oh yeah, and food.
You pay for food? I get mine free.:pound:
 
To be honest, that was my exact concern. Someone somewhere said we can man up with their top two, and I agree, but they will bring out 3WR very often.

I think our first way of handling it will be the big nickle 4-2-5 with Ward handling the SS duties and Huff in coverage. I don't know if that makes me too happy about our coverage, but we'll have to cover our asses against the run, and if we go with Carr we're certain to see a heavy dose of running on early downs. We can swap Carr for Ward on 3rd and long.

Personally, I think Routt is going to have to work into game shape. He might even be inactive Sunday, regardless of how sphincter tightening it is to think that Chris Johnson could get some reps.

IF you believe KK - Routt will see plenty of action on Sunday.
 
Marinelli: I've got to be "smart'' about Rogers
by Tom Kowalski
Friday September 07, 2007, 1:30 PM


The Lions are in relatively good shape going into their regular season opener against the Oakland Raiders. Running back Kevin Jones (foot) is listed as doubtful -- "pretty doubtful,'' head coach Rod Marinelli said -- while quarterback Dan Orlovsky (toe) is questionable and fullback Jon Bradley (shoulder) is probable.

Marinelli said Shaun Rogers will start but that he doesn't want to duplicate what he did in last year's opener against the Seattle Seahawks. Rogers didn't play in any preseason games last year either, but had a dominant game against the Seahawks.

"He shocked me last year and I did a poor job last year. It was my first time around with him,'' Marinelli said. "He played about 55 snaps of pretty good football last year. What hurts those guys is the second and third week because their body doesn't recover. I've got to be smart. I've got to space it out more, space the reps out before I get him back in.''

Of course, if the Lions are locked in a grueling battle in the fourth quarter and the game's on the line -- like it was against the Seahawks -- Marinelli knows it'll be hard to resist the temptation of playing Rogers more.

"That's why I have to see how the flow of the game is going. If he's rushing really well, which he's done in camp, in terms of movement and things like this ... I've just got to see,'' Marinelli said. "You're wind will come back, but your legs go. I've got to make sure I'm on top of it. I think we can build him as the season goes on.''

Also, Tatum Bell is expected to start at running back, but there will be a rotation system going on with Bell and T.J. Duckett.
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Eric Metcalf?

Anyways, I actually thought Reggie looked pretty good.

*shrug*


Yes, Eric Metcalf. Very good player. Didn't he smoke the Raiders for 3 TD's in a game once (rushing, recieving & returning) ???
 
Yeah Metcalf was a Raider killer, so was Ronnie Harmon at SD. There wasn't anyone better on 3rd down coming out of the backfield and catching that little flare or crossing route for a first down. It was almost automatic.
 
He seems like a much bigger threat catching the rock, ala that dude that played HB, WR and KR for the Browns (and the Raiders briefly) some years ago. What the F*&K was his name?????
I told you it was Greg Pruitt. Fuck a buncha Eric Metcalf. :gripe:
 
Metcalf played for Cleveland too.
But not for the Raiders! ;)

Originally Posted by RaiderIVlife
He seems like a much bigger threat catching the rock, ala that dude that played HB, WR and KR for the Browns (and the Raiders briefly) some years ago. What the F*&K was his name?????
 
That Ryan is a funny dude. Like Tatum could hate us more...


Lions RB Bell 'ticked off' about Radiers' trash talk

September 7, 2007

By CARLOS MONARREZ

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

There are times in sports when having something named after you is considered an honor, such as the Heisman Trophy, the Stanley Cup or the Cy Young Award.

Then there are times when having something named after you isn't such an honor, such as the Tatum Bell Drill.

The Oakland Raiders took a swipe at the Lions' running back this week by naming a fumble-recovery drill after him. Last year, while playing with Oakland's AFC West rival, Denver, Bell had a career-worst five fumbles - all of which he lost.

News of the dubious honor didn't sit well with Bell on Friday.

“I'm still pissed off. I'm a little ticked off,” he said. “Maybe it's motivating (for) them. I don't know why. I ain't never had a fumble against them, so I don't know why they feel it's a problem. Oh, well. I'm going to look forward to playing them.”

Bell pointed out that in his three seasons with Denver, the Broncos had a 5-1 record against the Raiders. Bell's fumbling history isn't a concern for him or, it appears, for Lions coach Rod Marinelli, who said Friday that Bell likely would start Sunday.

“No, it ain't an issue at all,” Bell said. “I'm not thinking about it or nothing. I'm just going to go out and play my game, get a couple of dirty words in to some of the players.”

And he might not limit his discourse to guys in black jerseys.

“From the beginning of the game to the end of the game you might catch me out there jawing with a lot of those guys, maybe the coaches, too,” he said. “I'm going to find one of the defensive coordinators and tell him how I feel about it.”

Actually, there's only one defensive coordinator and Bell knows him well. Rob Ryan was the coordinator at Oklahoma State when Bell played for the Cowboys, and Ryan even showed Bell around the campus during a recruiting trip.

“So I know him and I always talk to him before the game,” Bell said. “This time it's going to be a little bit hard for me.”

Given equal time to devise a drill that he would choose to name after himself, Bell thought for a moment. The Tatum Bell Touchdown Drill was suggested. Bell smiled.

“That sounds good: touchdown drill,” he said. “I would do that and then go over and mess with their bench or something on the sideline.”
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Could you imagine what Sapp would do if Ms. Bell tried to get in Ryan's face?
oh god...
What would Ryan do? I mean he could take swing himself.
 
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