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Interesting read...I saw a couple of quotes worth mentioning:

"We've all gone through it. This is part of our lives, what we live for," Davis said. "He's shooting for it. This is what he wants. ... I think someday the epitaph that shall be his will read: He was a football coach, he was a brilliant football coach. It's about time everyone raised their hand and saluted to John 'Great job."'

and this is really weird to me....

While Davis is a big supporter of Madden's bid, others connected to the Silver and Black aren't so sure he's deserving.

"I spent a long time in Raiderland," former Raiders receiver Tim Brown said on Fox Sports Net earlier this week. "And when you talk to the old guys who played under Madden, they say, 'Look, if not for this guy, maybe we win three or four Super Bowls.' They actually think that he may have hindered them."

I wonder who the hell said that? They blame facing quite possibly the two greatest teams ever in the early 70's Dolphins and the late 70's Steelers on Madden? WTF??? (I just hope this isn't some stupid Tim Brown sour grapes thing)
 
I love hearing Al speak so fondly of Madden....don't know what Tim's problem is crapping on John and basically the whole organization like that.
 
John in the HOF....

Hall of Fame class of 2006 announced

FOXSports.com
Posted: 3 minutes ago



Troy Aikman, Harry Carson, John Madden, Warren Moon, Reggie White and Rayfield Wright were announced as the 2006 class for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday.

The announcement was made by the Pro Football Hall of Fame election committee.

Troy Aikman, Harry Carson, L.C. Greenwood, Russ Grimm, Claude Humphrey, Michael Irvin, Bob Kuechenberg, John Madden, Art Monk, Warren Moon, Derrick Thomas, Thurman Thomas, Reggie White, Rayfield Wright and Gary Zimmerman were the 15 finalists. Carson, Greenwood, Grimm, Humphrey, Irvin, Kuechenberg, Madden, Monk, Derrick Thomas, Wright, and Zimmerman had all been finalists in previous years.
 
Here is our current list in the HOF before John....

Raiders In the Pro Football Hall of Fame

Name -Pos- Seasons -Year Inducted

Jim Otto C 1960-1974 1980

George Blanda QB/K 1967-1975 1981

Willie Brown CB 1967-1978 1984

Gene Upshaw G 1967-1982 1987

Fred Biletnikoff WR 1965-1978 1988

Art Shell T 1968-1982 1989

Ted Hendricks LB 1975-1983 1990

Al Davis Owner 1963-present 1992

Mike Haynes CB 1983-1989 1997

Eric Dickerson RB 1992 1999

Howie Long DE 1981-1993 2000

Ronnie Lott S 1991-1992 2000

Dave Casper TE 1974-1980, 1984 2002

Marcus Allen RB 1982-1992 2003

James Lofton WR 1987-1988 2003

Bob Brown OT 1971-1973 2004
 
Here is how John feels...

Madden Selected for Hall of Fame
February 4, 2006



Legendary Raiders Head Coach John Madden will be inducted into the Professional Football Hall of Fame in Canton, Ohio, it was announced today. Madden, who coached the Silver and Black from 1969-78 and retired with a record of 112-39-7 including postseason games, becomes the 17th Raider to be elected to the Hall of Fame.

Madden joins Jim Otto (Class of 1980), George Blanda (1981), Willie Brown (1984), Gene Upshaw (1987), Fred Biletnikoff (1988), Art Shell (1989), Ted Hendricks (1990), Al Davis (1992), Mike Haynes (1997), Eric Dickerson (1999), Howie Long (2000), Ronnie Lott (2000), Dave Casper (2002), Marcus Allen (2003), James Lofton (2003) and Bob Brown (2004).

"I am in shock, anything I say comes from the heart. I haven't taken a normal breath [since the announcement]," Madden said. "I'm so proud to be in the Hall of Fame. As a coach, it's all about players. I had great players and I want to thank every one of them. I want to thank [Owner] Al Davis and the Raiders organization for the opportunity. I'm humble and grateful."

"It's time John took his rightful place in the Pro Football Hall of Fame," said Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis. "He certainly brings an excellence to it that no one can deny.

"I saw greatness in John and he lived up to it. I also saw a tremendous competitor who loved to win. John is a standard bearer, someone that players, coaches, fans and the Raider Nation can all look up to. One of his great virtues, the fire that burned brightest in him, was his love and passion for football, which was seldom ever equaled.

"He not only competed against the greatest coaches, he played in the greatest games - Heidi Game, Immaculate Reception, Holy Roller, Sea of Hands and won the Super Bowl in 1976.

"He also coached some of the greatest players in the history of the game - including Fred Biletnikoff, George Blanda, Willie Brown, Ted Hendricks, Jim Otto, Art Shell and Gene Upshaw - and now will join them in the Hall of Fame.

"John's influence, even though his tenure as head coach of the Raiders spanned 10 years, carries on to this day. At the end, he got his break with the networks and he's done great with that. He's done great with everything he's touched.

"I think someday the epitaph that shall be his will read: He was a football coach, he was a brilliant football coach. It's about time everyone raised their hand and saluted to John 'Great job.'"

"John is a standard bearer, someone
that players, coaches, fans and the
Raider Nation can all look up to.
One of his great virtues, the fire
that burned brightest in him, was
his love and passion for football,
which was seldom ever equaled."

- Raiders Owner Al Davis


Madden, who will become the 15th modern era coach enshrined in Canton and the 21st overall, led the Team of the Decades to a 103-32-7 regular season record in his 10-year tenure. His .759 regular season winning percentage is the highest in the history of professional football among head coaches with at least 100 career victories. At age 42, he became the third-youngest coach to reach 100 wins, behind only fellow Hall of Famers George Halas and Curly Lambeau.

Madden led the Silver and Black to the franchise's first World Championship of Professional Football following the 1976 season when his Raiders beat the Minnesota Vikings, 32-14, in Super Bowl XI. He took his teams to the playoffs in eight of his 10 seasons on the sideline, posting a 9-7 overall record, guiding them to the AFL or AFC Championship Game seven times.

His teams also captured seven division titles, and from 1976-77 had a 17-game winning streak, the second-longest streak in pro football history. Madden, who for the last four years has been part of the broadcast crew for Monday Night Football, holds the record for most wins by any coach on Monday night with an 11-1-1 record.

When he was hired at the age of 33 in 1969, Madden became the youngest head coach in the history of the American Football League, and became the youngest coach to be named AFL Coach of the Year after he guided the Raiders to a 12-1-1 record in his first season. The victory in Super Bowl XI made him, at age 41, the youngest coach to guide a team to a Super Bowl championship at that time.

Madden coached in some of the greatest games in football history. Among those memorable contests is the Sea of Hands game, played December 21, 1974 against Miami and called "the greatest game I have ever seen" by legendary broadcaster Curt Gowdy, and the Holy Roller game on September 10, 1978 against San Diego.

In addition to coaching some of the greatest teams in some of the greatest games in Raiders history, Madden coached a number of the greatest players to ever don the Silver and Black. Biletnikoff, Blanda, Bob and Willie Brown, Casper, Hendricks, Shell and Upshaw all played for Madden, and 26 of his players made a total of 71 appearances in the AFL All-Star Game or the annual AFC/NFC Pro Bowl.

In his second season a head coach, Madden coached Blanda through one of the most amazing stretches by any player in football history. In the span of five games, Blanda threw five touchdown passes and kicking four field goals to rally the Silver and Black to four come-from-behind victories and one tie.



John Madden, who will become the 15th modern era coach enshrined in Canton and the 21st overall, led the Team of the Decades to a 103-32-7 regular season record in his 10-year tenure.



Madden compiled a 36-16-2 record against the 10 future Hall of Fame coaches against whom he competed, finishing his career with a winning record against each one. His 103 regular season victories account for 26 percent of the Raiders' 394 all-time wins and he was responsible for nine of the franchise's 25 postseason wins.

Madden joined the Raiders in 1967 as the linebackers coach. He began his coaching career at age 23 Hancock Junior College in Santa Maria, California as an assistant coach. Two years later, he was named the head coach at Hancock. In two years as head coach, Madden compiled a 13-5 record, including an 8-1 mark in his second year and a spot in the Junior College Top 10. In 1964, he was named the defensive coordinator at San Diego State. In his three years at SDSU, the Aztecs went 26-4 and were ranked number one among small colleges.

Madden was born in Austin, Minnesota, on April 10, 1936 and grew up in the San Francisco suburb of Daly City. He graduated from Jefferson High School and went on to the College of San Mateo. After two years there, he finished his college career at Cal Poly-San Luis Obispo. He earned a Bachelor of Science in 1959 and a Master of Arts in 1961, both from Cal Poly. He was drafted in the 21st round of the 1959 NFL draft by Philadelphia, but a severe knee injury suffered in training camp ended his playing career prematurely.

Since his retirement in 1978, Madden has become perhaps the most recognizable person in professional football through his standout work in the broadcast booth and the best-selling video game bearing his name. Madden entered broadcasting in 1980 with CBS.

In 2006, Madden will become the only broadcaster to work for all four major networks. After 14 years with CBS, he moved on to FOX, and joined the Monday Night Football crew on ABC in 2002. He will be a part of NBC's Sunday Night Football broadcast team beginning this fall.

Madden has won an unprecedented 14 Emmy Awards for the Most Outstanding Sports Personality/Analyst and has been nominated a total of 16 times. The American Sportscasters Association named him the Sports Personality of the Year in 1985 and again in 1992, and in 1982 Madden became the first NFL analyst to receive the prestigious Golden Mike Award from the Touchdown Club of America.
 
More on Madden...bio...

Born on the 10th of April 1936 in Austin, Minnesota, John Madden moved to Daly City, California with his family at an early age. He was always an avid athlete and sports enthusiast as a child, playing several sports throughout high school. At California Polytechnic College, Madden played on both the offensive and defensive lines for its football team and was a catcher for the school's baseball team.

john madden's injury stopped him

In terms of schooling, Madden received his Bachelor of Science diploma in 1959 and followed it up with a Master of Arts degree in 1961, both from California Polytechnic. It was his athletics, however, that showed the most promise career-wise. Madden entered the NFL draft in 1958 and was picked 21st overall by the Philadelphia Eagles.

Unfortunately, the dream of performing on the professional level came crumbling down when he suffered a career-ending knee injury. Months of rehabilitation confirmed Madden's inability to play but, though his hopes were shattered, he immediately opened his mind to other job opportunities in football. In 1960, Madden began coaching at Hancock Junior College in Santa Maria, California.

coach madden

After four years, he had learned the basic leadership and motivational tactics necessary to be a football coach. He went from high school to university coach, landing the defensive coordinator job at San Diego State in 1964. In the two seasons Madden stayed with San Diego State University, the Aztecs were 26-4 and ranked first among the small colleges in the country.

Despite this success, Madden could not pass up the next job offer that came his way. In 1967, he took the Oakland Raiders of the American Football Conference up on their offer to become linebacker coach. For another two seasons, he excelled in the role. In fact, Madden impressed the Raiders' top executives so much that when it came time to look for a new head coach in 1969, they did not hesitate to hire him.

With the new job, Madden became the youngest head coach in the American Football League, at 33 years old. He held the post for 10 successful seasons, creating a quasi-dynasty that included seven Western Division titles and a win in Super Bowl XI against the Minnesota Vikings.
 
As far as Madden's induction speech goes, Al could be the one to have that honor.

Madden and John Robinson were childhood friends when they lived in Daly City. Robinson was the backfield coach for Madden when John was our HC. I believe he was with Madden today.

Madden also has a son, Mike. I believe that he runs the family construction business. Mike might be another possibility for giving the speech.
 
Congratulations to John Madden.

They can say what they want but Madeen had an awesome record. Andyes had it not been for the gret Steeler teams and a couple of those Dolphin teams the Raiders would have a few more rings.

Another Raider hits the HOF! :D
 
John actually has two sons, Mike and Joe. Here is more about John....

Ex-coach expected a call but learned of Hall of Fame selection from TV

Ira Miller, Chronicle Staff Writer

Sunday, February 5, 2006



Detroit -- John Madden is never at a loss for words, but he was close Saturday. He stood on a podium in a hotel ballroom, arms flying, waving, gesturing, talking not in complete thoughts but in stream of consciousness.

This was the essential Madden, the Everyman to football fans, trying to keep from losing it while explaining what it meant to be elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, 27 years after he coached his final game with the Oakland Raiders.

"I'm in shock," he said. "I was coming over here, and I said, 'They can't take this away, can they?' At some point, you just gotta let it go."

He talked about watching the announcement on TV, about players he coached, about his family, and about his pal, former Rams coach John Robinson who is here as Madden's Super Bowl guest, Madden laughing, "that here's two doofuses from Daly City."

Finally, he said, "I'm not going to make a lot of sense, but I don't care. Believe me, it comes from my heart. I'm humbled and I'm grateful. I gotta sit down."

Madden was one of six men elected to the Hall of Fame after a five-hour selection meeting that started with 15 candidates in what the 39 selectors agreed was, top to bottom, the strongest group on the ballot in years.

It was an overdue honor for Madden, and then it was more overdue.

While the votes were tabulated, Madden was at Ford Field, site of today's Super Bowl, with ABC partner Al Michaels and their crew going through pre-game preparations. He was, meanwhile, waiting for a telephone call from the Hall of Fame, or so he thought.

But there was no call.

"Somebody in the room said, 'If it's good news, they're going to call,' '' said Mike Madden, one of John's two sons. Still, the phone did not ring. Then they noticed on the television, which was tuned to the NFL Network, that the Hall of Fame press conference was about to begin.

"We (thought we) were about ready to watch a train wreck," Mike Madden said.

Just about then, Ron Dougherty, interim executive director of the Hall of Fame, began to read the names of the new enshrinees. Troy Aikman ... Harry Carson ... John Madden.

"He literally, probably stood there in shock for about four or five minutes," Mike Madden said.

More than an hour later, delivered to the headquarters hotel with a police escort, John Madden still was quivering. This is the guy who looks so cool on Monday night, tie loosened, jacket opened, shoelaces untied, having the time of his life, and he was suddenly reduced to a jabbering mass of emotion.

Of course. There was no rehearsal for this show.

"You talk about someone that appreciates this, and maybe it's waiting a long time, and you have no control over it, waiting, and when you finally get it, thank you, thank you, thank you," he said.

"My legs are shivering right now. ... It's the anticipation, the phone call, no phone call, then here, you got the TV on and you're in a production meeting, and here it comes."

John Madden's other son, Joe, was at home in the Bay Area. So was John's wife, Virginia. They spoke shortly after the announcement, although there might not have been many words exchanged. "She was crying," John said. "She couldn't control herself."

Madden said he never thought about how he'd react if he got elected because he didn't want to prepare himself and then have to "go through the low of the disappointment," he said.

"If I get too high in expectations, then I wouldn't want to handle the low of disappointment, so I never let myself do that," he said. "And doing so, I think that's why I'm having these feelings I'm having now. I am so high, so emotional, so grateful, so everything, that maybe that's natural, because I didn't plan.

"Had I planned, I probably would have been more together than I am now. I've got a feeling from the top of my head all the way down to my feet. At some point, that has to go away, and I have to get back to normal. I don't know how to do it. I'm not normal."

Presumably, Madden will be back to normal for today's telecast. His friends were planning a surprise party for him to celebrate Saturday night and, after the game, his bus will head west, beginning the trek home to Pleasanton. Normally, all the new Hall of Famers go to Hawaii for the Pro Bowl, but Madden doesn't fly, so he'll take part in the introductions by satellite.

"If they said, 'You have to be in Hawaii, or we're taking it back,' I would row over there," he cracked.

Discussion on Madden in the selection committee, where he was presented by your correspondent, was almost entirely positive and largely centered on his 10-year coaching career that produced a winning percentage second in NFL history only to Vince Lombardi. There was brief talk about the role Madden has played as football's greatest ambassador, but his election was based on the coaching record.

"I know as a coach that it's all about players," Madden said. "I firmly believe that. The game isn't about a lot of stuff on the outside. It's about players, and I had great players. ... They all made this possible. As a coach, if you ever start to think any other way than that, you're off base."

The Hall of Fame induction is scheduled for Aug. 6 in Canton, Ohio. Madden said he probably would choose Raiders' owner Al Davis or Madden's son, Mike, to make his presentation introduction. When Davis was inducted to the Hall of Fame in 1992, Madden made the presentation, but Davis may not be up to it physically to reciprocate.
 
Here is Villapiano reacting to Tim's comments...

Morning Briefing There's no fury like old Raiders scorned

Former Oakland Raider Tim Brown said on FSN recently that "old guys" who played for John Madden during his 10 seasons as coach of the Raiders had told him that if not for Madden the Raiders might have won three or four Super Bowls rather than just one.

After Brown's quote ran Wednesday in Morning Briefing, Sandy Montag, Madden's agent, said that at least half a dozen former Raiders who played for Madden had called him to vehemently disagree with Brown. Linebacker Phil Villapiano was one, and he e-mailed Morning Briefing.

"I think we should have won six," Villapiano said. "Remember in 1972, the Immaculate Reception. In 1973, Larry Csonka's giant legs. In 1974, a questionable - and rarely called - tripping penalty on Jim Otto. In 1975, a frozen field in Pittsburgh. In 1977, Denver's Rob Lytle fumbled on the two-yard line and they called it a touchdown.

"With the Super Bowl win in 1976 and those five seasons, we should have won six rings. And John had nothing to do with us losing any of those games."

When the Raiders lost to the Green Bay Packers, 33-14, in Super Bowl II at Miami in 1968, Madden was an assistant coach.

"I remember arriving in Miami and watching television that night," Madden said on a conference call this week. "They showed the Packers arriving and Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr getting off the plane. Then the guy says, 'The Oklahoma Raiders' plane has also arrived.' The host city wasn't even sure where the other team was from."
 
Otto really pushed for Madden too...

Otto, who lives in Auburn and works for the Raiders in an administrative role, said Davis was elated over Madden's election.

"Al was very excited," Otto said. "He knew John had waited a long time for this. Last year I gave a half-hour speech to people on the selection committee on behalf of John. And when he didn't get in, I was told, 'Don't worry, Jim, he'll be right at the top of the list next year.'

"John is very deserving. I remember when Al made him the head coach at age 32. There was no negativity about it, I can tell you. He was already a buddy of the linebackers, and now he was our leader. That's how we thought of him.

"I don't understand why it took so long for him to get in after 100 wins in 10 years. I am sure there will a large delegation of former players, friends and family who will be in Canton with him. It will be a lot of fun."
 
I really don't know why Tim Brown has an axe to grind with John Madewn. But then this has been Tim's history --- to run his mouth. This is definitely a time that Brown should have kept his yap shut. I mean what's to be gained especially from somebody who knows very little about John Madden.

As must as I love Tim Brown this kind of thing irritates me about him.
 
CrossBones said:
As must as I love Tim Brown this kind of thing irritates me about him.

It's so crazy...Tim takes more cheap shots at the Raiders than Marcus Allen does? The only person that you would think Tim would be close to that would have said anything is Fred Biletnikoff to that effect, but I can't see that either. The only thing that held Madden out of more titles is that we were the 3rd or 4th best team in the league at the time.
 
While it was strange for Tim to raise the point, there is truth to his statement. The 1970s Raiders for all their talent should have won more than one Super Bowl. If not for some poor luck, questionable calls, and underachieving seasons in 1978/1979, they would have won more titles. They had the talent for it.

Hell, 1968 and 1969 were there for the taking as well.

I don't think Madden held them back. It was just the thin margin of error in the era of super teams. I have read Landry's biography and the Cowboys faced the same number of heartbreaking losses. I guess in a way you gotta be damn good to lose so many conference championship games.

Of course, the Steelers would win 4 titles in the same decade. :mad:
 
While it was strange for Tim to raise the point, there is truth to his statement. The 1970s Raiders for all their talent should have won more than one Super Bowl. If not for some poor luck, questionable calls, and underachieving seasons in 1978/1979, they would have won more titles. They had the talent for it.

Hell, 1968 and 1969 were there for the taking as well.

I don't think Madden held them back. It was just the thin margin of error in the era of super teams. I have read Landry's biography and the Cowboys faced the same number of heartbreaking losses. I guess in a way you gotta be damn good to lose so many conference championship games.

Of course, the Steelers would win 4 titles in the same decade. :mad:
Things like the immaculate reception and that fumble in Denver that wasn't called probably cost us 2 SB rings, but it did give Dallas it's only ring for that decade.
 
Things like the immaculate reception and that fumble in Denver that wasn't called probably cost us 2 SB rings, but it did give Dallas it's only ring for that decade.

Cowboys had two rings in the 1970s.
 
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