Dante Culpepper?

Raider Nation said:
Good point, RHC. Vick being stuck in any offense that involves the QB passing isn't a very good fit ;)
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Or thinking. Or being accurate.

No, my opinion is that Vick could be put in a far better situation. They never should have gone so long without getting him a go-to receiver, for one thing.
 
I would rather the Raiders throw a 5th round pick and get McCown to come in and compete with AWAL...Pepp is done in my eyes. He's much better in an offense in which he can play "playground" with multiple hot reads in which he uses his athletic ability to bail him out. One his athletic ability or mobility will now be in check due to the nature of the injury and the WCO Hybrid that Lane will be running I think wouldn't work well with Pepp. When the Vikes switched it up, he looked mentally and I mean mentally lost and I believe that could of lead to his injury. With Kiffins offense, it will be all about timing and structure and you will need to have the smarts with the reads, line protection and the ability to audible and adjust on the fly. And this doesn't mean look over at Moss and nod.
 
Crow said:


That reminds me. Any of you ladies wanna stand up and take credit for call me a dummy when I told you that trading a 2nd round pick for Culpepper would be a huge mistake? Anyone?
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I have no problem stepping to that... but I don't recall suggesting trading our 2nd... My suggestion was swapping firsts with the Vikes...

I don't care what any of you Cult of Crow mofos say... I'm trading our 1st RD pick for the Vikes 1st and Pepper and I'll use the Vikes first on Tamba Hali to play RE...
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So we would have had Tamba Hali or Marcus McNeil instead of Huff... and Aaron Brooks would never have worn a Raiders uni... and to be fair, this was happening at a time when we were staring at resigning Kerry Collins or signing Aaron Brooks right in the eye... and the first preference was trading for Steve McNair... and I hate being wrong dammit...


And here we are, a year later still needing a QB...
 
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Lions have given no recent indication they're willing to trade backup QB Josh McCown.

Schefter says the Lions may be posturing, but that it "sounds to (him)" like the team will not be moving McCown before the season. This would eliminate another candidate to start at QB for the Raiders in 2007, possibly forcing them to focus their attention on Daunte Culpepper.
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R4Life said:
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Lions have given no recent indication they're willing to trade backup QB Josh McCown.

Schefter says the Lions may be posturing, but that it "sounds to (him)" like the team will not be moving McCown before the season. This would eliminate another candidate to start at QB for the Raiders in 2007, possibly forcing them to focus their attention on Daunte Culpepper.
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When it's all said & done, I think Culpepper will end up being a Raider, competing with Walter for the starting job and Russell will open the season at #3. I'm OK with that configuration. Culpepper IS a veteran QB that has seen highs & lows during his career. I'm guessing he could impart some knowledge to Russell (and Walter).
 
Screw Culpepper. He's done.

I'd rather Walter start and Russell take over at mid season unless, of course, the Raiders are 6-2 under Walter. Hehehe.
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CrossBones said:
Screw Culpepper. He's done.

I'd rather Walter start and Russell take over at mid season unless, of course, the Raiders are 6-2 under Walter. Hehehe.
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Well, he has shown "flashes of brilliance" (wink, wink)

Turo, I kid dude, I kid.

Bones - We gotta' sign one veteran, right? I'm betting it's Culpepper......
 
I don't think PFT or rotoworld or anyone else's speculation about Pepp is any more valid than any jerky sitting in a bar speculating that the Raiders would like Ricky Williams because they take a chance on fallen vets.

I really don't think there's anything there.

The Raiders are looking for a guy to hold the fort till Russell is ready to go, and is fine with that role. Pepp fails on on this account. He doesn't want to be a caretaker, won't be signing for peanuts, and his availalibility for the start of the season is in serious doubt. Why are we even talking about him?
 
R4Life said:
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports the Lions have given no recent indication they're willing to trade backup QB Josh McCown.

Schefter says the Lions may be posturing, but that it "sounds to (him)" like the team will not be moving McCown before the season. This would eliminate another candidate to start at QB for the Raiders in 2007, possibly forcing them to focus their attention on Daunte Culpepper.
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SILVER-AND-BLACK DEALINGS
For all the speculation that Detroit could deal quarterback Josh McCown to Oakland, a high-ranking Lions official said this week that his team is not interested in trading its backup quarterback.

The official could have been posturing, trying to get the Raiders to surrender even more for McCown. But it certainly didn't sound that way.

His message was that McCown is too valuable to give up for a late-round pick and that without him, Detroit would need a proven backup for Jon Kitna.

Without McCown, Oakland could explore the possibility of acquiring another veteran quarterback to stand in while the team redshirts its expected first-round pick, JaMarcus Russell. But the Raiders also still have former third-round pick Andrew Walter, and Oakland decide to hand its offense to him next season.


Jerry Porter wanted a trade last season, but it seems he's stuck in Oakland for another year.
However it works out, the Raiders still have some decisions to make at quarterback. But by the end of the draft, they should be wrapped up.

But Oakland could be far from through dealing. Teams around the league have confirmed that Oakland is shopping its two high-profile receivers -- Randy Moss and Jerry Porter -- seeing what it can get in return.

Problem is, it's a buyer's market.

Neither player has much value around the league, plus Raiders owner Al Davis typically wants a ransom for his players. Just last year, he was asking for two first-round picks in return for Porter. But new coaching staffs like to start with their own players. Moss and Porter are leftovers from other regimes and darker times.

It would surprise nobody if neither receiver returns to Oakland this season, whether each is traded or even released. Should the Raiders release Moss, they would get the greatest return he could bring: Oakland would free up his $9.75 million base salary and save $7.75 million against its salary cap this season and another $9.25 million next season, space that could and would be used on other players.

Porter's contract voids after this season, so teams would be leery about trading for him. If Oakland cut him now, the Raiders would lose $4 million in salary-cap space this season, so it looks like, for now, Porter is back in Oakland.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10138086


Shopping players could be misinformation
 
Well we better get a proven back-up in here as we're quickly running out of options. I guess Rattay is about as good as we'll be able to get this late in the game unless we can somehow wrangle a deal with the Bucs for Plummer if he still has any intention of un-retiring.

BTW screw McCown:p
 
Id rather have McCown or Rattay over Plummer.

Both will make good backups to Walter and Russell. :)
 
Raiderfan007 said:
Id rather have McCown or Rattay over Plummer.
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I'd ratther have Plummer... I don't know how much help a couple of guys with limited starting experience will be to young players like Walter and/or draftee...
 
hawaiianboy said:
I'd ratther have Plummer... I don't know how much help a couple of guys with limited starting experience will be to young players like Walter and/or draftee...
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You guys just don't get it!!!!

He was a dirty assed Bronco who helped lead his team on a couple thrashings against us.

Therefore, I wish he was dead.

Trent Green?

Nope. Not while Im alive.

Phillip Rivers in a trade for Cornell Green? No thanks. Dudes a dirty slut Charger. I don't wan't him.

Jeezus.
 
R4Life said:
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Porter's contract voids after this season, so teams would be leery about trading for him. If Oakland cut him now, the Raiders would lose $4 million in salary-cap space this season, so it looks like, for now, Porter is back in Oakland.
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Everything I've read and heard thus far says he's back on board so it really doesn't make much sense letting him go. He better have a career year or he's probably seen the last of the big paydays. I did read somewhere that the Moss to GB rumors are heating up again so stay tuned.
 
Culpepper may not even be ready this year? I wouldn't go into camp with him and Walter..........and Booty!

Just Trade for McCown and Draft a Kolb and I would be happy......

I have swung to the CJ at #1 side of the fence!
 
DANTE WILL BE READY THIS YEAR. Will he be what he was? maybe. he'll definitely have chemistry with Moss. His mobility will be a question and we will have block for him.

Also Porter being on board is like candidate saying he's on board with bipartisan solutions. Yea you want to believe him, but when adversity hits, dont expect those promises to hold. If theres value for him out there, take it and draft CJ with a qb pick in the second or 3rd round along with bringing in culpepper, rattay, or any vet with experience. bitch mode or not, the tandem of Moss/Johnson would even scare the Bronco Secondary. Dre Bly would be screwed trying to cover either guy.

Thats a long shot scenario. But i'd like it if it came about, especially with Cullpepper in the mix throwing to basically two randy moss's out there. Bleh again long shot. :o
 
Culpepper wouldn't cost that much at all IMO. As far as him not wanting to be a caretaker, he just needs a gig where he can showcase to the league that he can still play. 2007 would simply be an audition for 2008.

I'd have preferred Trent Green, but that ship has sailed. I don't want to give up a day-1 selection for McCown so the options are pretty damn limited.

I say bring Culpepper into camp for an incentive laden 1-year deal and if he rebounds, great, if not, you release him and don't lose much in the process.
 
RaiderIVlife said:
I say bring Culpepper into camp for an incentive laden 1-year deal and if he rebounds, great, if not, you release him and don't lose much in the process.
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Give him the old giggles routine :)
 
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