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Per Houston Texans website.

Also Dom Williams (Davis)

Al get on the phone
 
Make this happen Kiffin!!!

The only QB out there who would allow me to abandon leading the Russell Jihad...

I like Carr's leadership and mobility, and at 27, he still has the tools to succeed.

GET ER DONE.
 
This would SO be the right thing to do.

Then, swap #1's with Atlanta and pick up both their second round picks and a 1st next year. That'd get us Alan Branch or Lynch or someone pretty nice at #8 and then with three picks at the top of round two.. we can either sit back and collect falling talent or trade back up into round one for any number of highly regarded players.
 
Turo said:
This would SO be the right thing to do.

Then, swap #1's with Atlanta and pick up both their second round picks and a 1st next year. That'd get us Alan Branch or Lynch or someone pretty nice at #8 and then with three picks at the top of round two.. we can either sit back and collect falling talent or trade back up into round one for any number of highly regarded players.
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If we're not going to use the 1 on JaMarcus, then this would be the next best thing for me... though I'll admit that reading the Tejans message board has scared the living crap out of me in regards to Carr...


I have a feeling that Calvin Johnson running that 4.3 at the combine put him in a Raiders uni... Despite the all too recently failed logic of building around a WR and retread QB, we appear to be stumbing down that same path once again... Let's just hope that none of the AFCWest guys drafts that known CJ killer Eric Weddle...
 
I want Carr on a f'ing airplane to oaktown NOW.
 
The ball is now in Carr's court. the Texans said they wanted to "do right by David" and they did. If there was a trade on the table from any team, then DC must have nixed it. Likely there were none. Now it's up to him. I kinda liked the trade option. Get him for two years at about 6million per year with no signing bonus. The next 2 years (including SB and guaranteed money) will likely cost more than that for whoever signs him, and they'll also be stuck with him for the contract, which will likely be longer than two years, if he does not work out.

That said, we should defintiely sign him.

Jmac thinks:

Carr free to chose
Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Friday at 12:56 pm
David Carr will hit the open market today when the Houston Texans give him his release.

The Texans will make the announcement shortly, an NFL source said.

If the Raiders are interested, they won't have to part with any draft picks to bring Carr aboard. On the other hand, as a free agent, Carr may want assurances he won't be pushed aside for a high draft pick.

The Minnesota Vikings and Miami Dolphins are in the market for quarterbacks, but may be looking elsewhere. Miami reportedly has a deal in place with Kansas City's Trent Green, although the two teams have not worked out compensation.

As for the Vikings, Minnesota coach Brad Childress is not a big fan of Carr's skills.

"David Carr is a tremendous person," Childress said on a local radio show. "I always struggled with where his release came from. It's kind of a drop-down, three-quarter release. ... He can make some of the throws; he can't make all the throws."
http://www.ibabuzz.com/raidersblog/
 
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Carr is a california guy maybe he might want to come back to the west coast
 
He's probably going to want to go where he has a chance to be a starter, which limits him to maybe 2-3 teams, including us.
 
If aquiring Carr means not drafting JR, I'm dead against it. Is Kubiaks system going to be that much different than Kiffin's? We have the same sorry line that the texans have with no running game. We're switching to zone blocking, like the texans. I just don't see how Carr can be any different here than he was there.

Somebody help me here.
 
Bayareaplaya said:
It comes down to 3 teams Oakland, Miami, Minnesota.
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Comments from Minny's coach lead me to believe that he won't be heading there in a starting capacity and Miami is looking to land Green. I think we'll honestly be the most attractive team for him.
If we can get him in on a 2-3 year contract that is fairly backloaded and with only a $3-5M signing bonus, it would be attractive to both sides and would give him a chance to redeem himself in the eyes of the NFL.
 
Ark Raider said:
If aquiring Carr means not drafting JR, I'm dead against it.
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I'm feeling the same way... I almost hope the Dolphins sign Carr and the Chiefs are then forced to cut Trent Green... I'd rather sign Green to hold the fort down till JR's ready and then act as his sideline mentor the rest of the way...


Is Kubiaks system going to be that much different than Kiffin's? We have the same sorry line that the texans have with no running game. We're switching to zone blocking, like the texans. I just don't see how Carr can be any different here than he was there.
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The only way this makes sense to me is if we sign Carr then trade down, acquire more draft picks and go ahead and match Carr up with the franchise RB Adrian Peterson... and then pick up some help on the line and at TE... and we could still draft a solid WR in RD2...

I just have a feeling that Al is always going to revert back to what he's comfortable with: Signing FA QB's and drafting speed freak athletes... I'm only partly joking when I say that I think that Al is sitting in the back of his black Cadillac Brougham scheming of ways to come out of this draft with both Calvin Johnson and Tedd Ginn..


::shrug:: I just hope all the guys with Randy Moss authentics have enough money to buy them Calvin Johnson authentics....


Somebody help me here.
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www.valtrex.com
 
Yeah, I just don't see any possibility other than CJ if we don't take JR. Unless offered a Ricky Williams draft day deal, we'll stand pat. If we take Carr, that would be tipping our hand and that actually could work in our favor as far as getting teams willing to trade up for some stupid amount. I think teams are much more enamoured with CJ than JR.

By the way HB, that was an unexpected Valtrex zing. I figured a link to the NAMBLA website would be forthcoming from you, considering your affiliation.
 
Ark Raider said:
If aquiring Carr means not drafting JR, I'm dead against it. Is Kubiaks system going to be that much different than Kiffin's? We have the same sorry line that the texans have with no running game. We're switching to zone blocking, like the texans. I just don't see how Carr can be any different here than he was there.

Somebody help me here.
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I'll help........kinda.

I could care less if we draft russell. I just see flop with this guy, he is Culpepper, only less mobile. So that plays no factor in my opinion on any Carr move.

But we are sitting just like the Texans, no line, no running game and only one or two MARGINAL NFL WR's after no production Moss and Whining Porter. I see disaster! Only way I'd be on board with Bust Carr is if we drafted CJ and then spent the rest of the draft on work horse O Linemen and then I'd still be a little scared. Carr is a bust, but a change could do him well.

I'd be more inclined with H-boys idea of waiting to see if we could land Green as a 2 year mentor. Dude is a proven NFL commodity, PERIOD! Then draft a WR in round 2
 
Ark Raider said:
By the way HB, that was an unexpected Valtrex zing. I figured a link to the NAMBLA website would be forthcoming from you, considering your affiliation.
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SECRET affiliation... see that's why I can't take you anyplace anymore...
 
The Panthers will definitely be in the running too.

As could the Chiefs, Lions, Dolphins, Vikes and Browns...

We should have made the trade, because we will be among the least desireable destinations for him once he hits the market, with a first overall pick in hand that could go QB...
 
If signing Carr means not drafting Russell, which I think it would, then you can count me out. He went from #1 overall pick to outright release in 5 seasons.

Tim Couch, anyone?



I think Cleveland's a darkhorse in this race as it would allow them to take Joe Thomas or AP.
 
I have a feeling in my GUT that we're going to sign carr

I this happend I ain't gonna lie, I will be happy, I always Liked Carr for some damn reason.

WHEN we GET carr I say he goes off... Cable will work his but off with this O-line of ours....so when does the new david carr jerseys come out??? :)
 
Raider Nation said:
If signing Carr means not drafting Russell, which I think it would, then you can count me out. He went from #1 overall pick to outright release in 5 seasons.

Tim Couch, anyone?

I think Cleveland's a darkhorse in this race as it would allow them to take Joe Thomas or AP.
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Put me in Natty's corner on this one.

I have done a 180 on Russell. Anybody with that much upside has to be a Raider.

I'm getting worried as I told HBoy (or did he tell me? -- senior moment) that Al might just f/ck this shit up. Unless Al is dancing trying to screw somebody and still get Russell I think any move that gets us off one of the franchise QB's is a bad thing. Natty brings up Tim couch...perfect analogy. Couch had a great arm, was the #1 pick, was young and had similar problems as Carr when Couch was in Cleveland. No thanks if it precludes Russell or Quinn. If it's just a year holding Russell's place OK, but then Carr isn't going to do that IMO.
 
I'm in the grab Calvin at #1 and then see what the hell drops to the Bucs at #4. If at least 2 out of the 3 of Russell/Quinn/Peterson are still on the board then wait until #8 is on the clock and then unload Calvin.

Screw that draft value chart. If you can take one of the above 3 at #4 and pocket a 2nd rounder or one of them at #8 and pocket a 2nd and future 2nd then thats a good deal overall.

That #1 overall pick is a curse. Your talking about giving some kid a $70M dollar contract with $30M of it fully guaranteed. Just unloading that obligation on to somebody else and still getting a blue chip prospect at a much cheaper price and an extra day 1 pick or 2 is the way to go.
 
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