Chad Slaughter & some thoughts

[NIPS]

Another solid game from the big man

There's no question in my mind he is simply a better LT than Gallery and deserves to be the starter at LT

When Gallery comes back next year he needs to be plugged in at LG

He is simply not tackle material

Blitzing

Teams are blitzing the Raiders on just about every play.

Chad Slaughter did a fantastic job yesterday picking them up. If youy watch him closely, he took on Super Mario, held him up then quickly side stepped to pick up the blitzing CB on several plays.

Our right side is collapsing like a Chief fans living room lawnchair.

Trades

Jerry Porter for a 4th

Trade Randy Moss straight up for Matt Schaub.

Falcons drafted him in rd 3 in 2004. It's where Randy wanted to go and it could be a great move for both the Raiders and Falcons.

Falcons are ranked dead last in passing. If they expect to hang with the Panthers and Saints they are going to need to get a big time WR

Enter Randy Moss

Draft

It looks clear to the Nips, we might get the #1 overall pick. Which is good.

Now with Schaub acquired via a trade, we wont get the heat from the media in regards to Quinn.

Raiders trade down to around 5 and pick up a early second from either the Redskins, Green Bay or the Browns

Raiders then trade down one more time to around 9-10 and pick up a 3rd

Raiders draft Marshawn Lynch

With Oaklands 2 2nd rd picks they move up again into rd 1 and select

Kyle Young - Center (Kyle Young is a big badass MoFo) Jake Grove is just not getting it done.

Kyle Young may or may not fall into rd 2. I personally see this cat as a pro bowler in the NFL.

Barret Robbins was a big reason we won, Young is fantastic at calling the OL plays and reconizing blitzes.. He's a leader on the OL and although not atheletic, he is a "football player"

Now Oaklands got 2 3rd's and 2 4th's to fill other needs

Free Agency

With the depature of Moss and Porter and the elevated cap limit Oakland will be in a good position to pickup a major FA

Enter Max Starks RT - Steelers very young and one of the better RT's in the NFL

Is a RFA, I'm not so sure the Steelers would be able to counter offer

Raiders have more cap space than the Steelers

WR is another area the Raiders should consider at FA, perhaps a cat like HB had mentioned Drew Bennet

WR's

Curry, Madsen, Whitted, Morant, FA, Draft pick

Al Davis

Will he trade Randy Moss?

Will he trade down and get another high 2nd to move back into the 1st rd to take the big mammoth Center in Kyle Young?

2007

Matt Schaub - QB

Marshawn Lynch - RB

Kyle Young - Center

Max Starks - RT

FA - WR

 

[Banter]

Forget Max Starks. At the very least they'll tender him with the lowest tender which would cost us our 3rd rounder to sign him. But most likely they use the middle tender which would require our 1st rounder.

 

[Crossbones]

Trade Randy Moss straight up for Matt Schaub.

Done.

It looks clear to the Nips, we might get the #1 overall pick. Which is good.

Now with Schaub acquired via a trade, we wont get the heat from the media in regards to Quinn.

Raiders trade down to around 5 and pick up a early second from either the Redskins, Green Bay or the Browns

Raiders then trade down one more time to around 9-10 and pick up a 3rd

Raiders draft Marshawn Lynch

With Oaklands 2 2nd rd picks they move up again into rd 1 and select

Kyle Young - Center (Kyle Young is a big badass MoFo) Jake Grove is just not getting it done.

Kyle Young may or may not fall into rd 2. I personally see this cat as a pro bowler in the NFL.

Barret Robbins was a big reason we won, Young is fantastic at calling the OL plays and reconizing blitzes.. He's a leader on the OL and although not atheletic, he is a "football player"

Now Oaklands got 2 3rd's and 2 4th's to fill other needs

Trading down makes more sense this year than ever...but you know my rant about that. I wish Al would just once throw his tradition out the window and get a buncha picks and draft a whole lot of good football players. It's the only way we're gonna ever climb outta this hole.

 

[YodasBeast]

Isn't Schaub an RFA tho? Unless he is tagged and agrees to sign an in-place contract with us, I don't think he can be traded.

 

[Banter]

They can trade him. Its what the 49ers did with Brandon Lloyd. They tagged him with a 1st round tender then traded him to Washington for a 3rd and 4th rounder. I have a feeling there could be quite a few RFA getting traded next year. Schaub for one. Michael Turner another.

However, I don't think Moss in Atlanta is going to fly. Arthur Blank made a statement a few weeks ago about how he's a "what have you done for me lately" type of guy in regards to business. Moss dropping a lot of balls this year and putting up anemic stats the past 3 years isn't going to appeal to a bottom line guy like Blank. Schaub and Michael Jenkins to Detroit for Roy Williams seems like something he would go for.

 

[NIPS]

. But most likely they use the middle tender which would require our 1st rounder.

Sumbeech

So much for that

Feel like I just caught my pecker in the zipper

 

[Madturk]

I think Porter to Atlanta would make more sense but it's going to take more than that to get Schaub. I don't think I'd be willing to part with a #1 for a QB who has put up mediocre numbers and is banking on a weak crop of FA QB's this offseason.

 

[hawaiianboy]

I think Porter to Atlanta would make more sense but it's going to take more than that to get Schaub. I don't think I'd be willing to part with a #1 for a QB who has put up mediocre numbers and is banking on a weak crop of FA QB's this offseason.

Yeah someone is probably going to give up a 1 for Schaub... Alot of people like him but he's thrown only 50-60 passes in each of a couple of seasons, one year looking good and one year not so much... Mora seems to like him and he's a good fit for Knapp's West Coast Offense after playing in a similar one at Virginia... Probably a good fit with Childress WCO in Minny, though Childress saw first hand the downside of trading for a guy who looked good in relief of a starting QB when the Fish gave a 2 to Philly for AJ Feeley... Be interesting to see how that Vick-Mora thing shakes out...


It seems you East Coasters haven't been seeing Kyle Young much this year... His play has really dropped off, he's been chastised about his bad practice habits by Pat Hill and he's been kicked off the team for flunking out of school... For all his size, he's more of a wall off type technician than mauler IMO... I think he'll get a look at either LT or most likely LG as a pro... He's probably dropped himself into the 3rd to 4th round area IMO...

After watching Grove getting tossed around, I'd prefer someone powerful who can get low and root.... The kid from Ohio State has been impressive... Sampson Satele is just a beast.... maybe even take Josh Beekman and move him from guard to center ala Richie Igcognito of the Rams...


Marshawn Lynch = good
Max Starks = good

I'd give up a 3rd for Max Starks in a second if Pitt only gives him the low tender...

 

[fatdog]

why draft more O-lineman in the top rounds? With the exception of Sims and Treu the line is extremely young and has been through more scheme and position changes than most veterans do their entire career.

Why not address this problem with FA .

 

[Madturk]

It seems you East Coasters haven't been seeing Kyle Young much this year... His play has really dropped off, he's been chastised about his bad practice habits by Pat Hill and he's been kicked off the team for flunking out of school... For all his size, he's more of a wall off type technician than mauler IMO... I think he'll get a look at either LT or most likely LG as a pro... He's probably dropped himself into the 3rd to 4th round area IMO...

That's news to my ears. He's still the top dog in most of the draft sites I've seen. Maybe the fact that he could eventually make the move to tackle might have his stock still high. I don't get a chance to see Hawaii that often, you think Satele is the real deal?

 

[Banter]

I'd give up a 3rd for Max Starks in a second if Pitt only gives him the low tender...

How about McQ for Starks? Florio from PFT makes it sound like the Steelers are thinking about giving the RT job to the rookie Willie Colon next year. Starks might be out of their long-term plans and so getting a young lineman signed for the next 3 years might appeal to them.

 

[hawaiianboy]

That's news to my ears. He's still the top dog in most of the draft sites I've seen. Maybe the fact that he could eventually make the move to tackle might have his stock still high. I don't get a chance to see Hawaii that often, you think Satele is the real deal?

I rarely push for UH players... Matter a fact, I didn't like Vince Manuwai as anything but a center coming out, but Satele is a real unique guy... Strong as hell, great feet, aggressive and can snap out of the shotgun... More than that, it's very rare to see a center be the leader of a team... not just an offense, but that whole team follows his lead... He reminds me of Olin Kruetz in that perspective, without the tendancy to fight every damn day in practice... Most people have him as a power guard, but he looks damn good at center IMO...

How about McQ for Starks?

I'm actually not ready to give up on McQ which is why I'd prefer to get a guy like Jon Runyan in for a year or two and give McQ time to develop as a RT... Be nice to give him a look now at RT since we already know what Badger and those guys are capable of...

Another interesting name is George Foster.... I read somewhere that Denver intends to outright release him after the year and go with Erik Pears and Lepsis as their tackles... I never understood the concept of them putting a power guy in their zone scheme... He was a roadgrater when they played him at guard at Georgia, so we could either give him a look at our LG spot or at RT....

MCQ working out at RT could save us a lot of headaches... If so, I'd be happy with this lineup just because it gives us maulers right up the gut:

LT: Gallery
LG: Foster
OC: Satele
RG: Boothe
RT: McQ

I'd still prefer Runyan at RT, but this would be a way to go if we don't want to spend the big money on our O-line for a guy like Steinbach etc...

 

[Langlier]

I think youre taking a lot away from gallery if you think slaughter has outplayed him. Slaughter has played well but its been the inside guy whos made the difference. RT and LG are the big spots to fill... if slaughter/mcq step up thats a small difference. I think if we aquire a good LG (Eric Steinbach) then let Slaughter/McQ compete for RT... that we might solidify our line quite a bit.

 

[Rupert]

Another interesting name is George Foster.... I read somewhere that Denver intends to outright release him after the year and go with Erik Pears and Lepsis as their tackles... I never understood the concept of them putting a power guy in their zone scheme... He was a roadgrater when they played him at guard at Georgia, so we could either give him a look at our LG spot or at RT....

WHAT? I thought Foster looked pretty good. I wonder how long it would take him to get zone blocking out of his system.

 

[Rupert]

I think youre taking a lot away from gallery if you think slaughter has outplayed him. Slaughter has played well but its been the inside guy whos made the difference. RT and LG are the big spots to fill... if slaughter/mcq step up thats a small difference. I think if we aquire a good LG (Eric Steinbach) then let Slaughter/McQ compete for RT... that we might solidify our line quite a bit.

I don't know that Gallery wouldn't still overcompensate for being beaten inside or outside. He doesn't have confidence in his ability to block guys at this level because it's been spotty. Can he improve? I don't know. Nothing has shown me that he can (good game followed by multiple mistake game). No consistency. That's worrisome.

 

[jatfly]

Like my 11th grade history teacher use to say " Are you High son?"

 

[hawaiianboy]

WHAT? I thought Foster looked pretty good. I wonder how long it would take him to get zone blocking out of his system.

They yanked him in our game with them... Problems with Burgess maybe?...


Foster falling out of favor

Denver: If offensive tackle George Foster continues to sit on the bench, don't expect him back with the Broncos next season. He was replaced by Adam Meadows last week at Oakland.

The Broncos love Foster's ability, but they are frustrated because he has shown laziness and a lack of intensity at times. The Broncos will be in good shape with the salary cap in the offseason, but if Foster is not in their plans, they will take the extra cap savings and cut him loose.

Another factor will be the emergence of Erik Pears. He has been terrific since replacing injured Matt Lepsis at left tackle for the past three-plus games. Lepsis is expected to be back at full strength next season, and if Pears continues to improve, the Broncos will want to make room for him. So a Pears-for-Foster switch could be a reality in 2007.



http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_4674748

 

[Banter]

Foster is entering the final year of his rookie contract (he can void the 2008 season). Feels like an Ashley Lelie situation where the Broncos have a guy they have no intention of re-signing so they'll try and unload him a year before he hits free agency.

 

[NIPS]

LT: Gallery
LG: Foster
OC: Satele
RG: Boothe
RT: McQ

I'd still prefer Runyan at RT, but this would be a way to go if we don't want to spend the big money on our O-line for a guy like Steinbach etc...

Love ya bro

But ya gotta get off the Gallery wagon

T-Rex aint getting it done in the NFL at LT

He's better suited for RT or guard

Arms are to short to take on DE's lining up 5 feet to the outside of him

Slaughter is more productive and quicker feet

 

[hawaiianboy]

Love ya bro

But ya gotta get off the Gallery wagon

Nah, I think I'll stay on another year...The herd has thinned out so I'll have a row of seats all to myself... Sometimes people surprise you... I mean there were a fair amount of people that wanted to dump both Nnamdi and Ryan last year....

Arms are to short to take on DE's lining up 5 feet to the outside of him

I'm not one to but into that short arm mumbo jumbo... His problem has been with his balance, which relates to his feet... A guy with immaculate footwork coming from a Kirk Ferentz program doesn't all of a sudden have the footwork of a just born calf taking it's first steps... We gave him some help getting there... I'll be more than happy to eat my words should he flatline coming out of the gate next year, but for now I'll stay with the big fella...