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Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on November 21st, 2007

Robert Gallery tried his best not to draw blood while biting his lip.

Dominic Rhodes was diplomatic but couldn't hide his disappointment.

LaMont Jordan had no comment.

Michael Bush, friendly and accomodating all season, was nowhere to be found in the Raiders' locker room.

With a 2-8 record and six difficult games remaining to be played, it's not exactly a big, happy family in Alameda.

The lone transactions Wednesday found the Raiders placing starting right tackle Cornell Green on injured reserve and signing Seth Wand, a 6-foot-7, 327 pound tackle who didn't make it out of training camp with the Tennessee Titans.

At practice Wednesday, Paul McQuistan and Robert Gallery worked at right tackle. Gallery started at right tackle in his first and second seasons, moving to left tackle last season and left guard this season.

Gallery will do what is asked, but did not appear thrilled with the idea of being on the move again.

"I mean, it’s hard to get used to a different side, but they’re checking to see what’s best for this football team," Gallery said. "Cornell’s down and they’re going to have to make a change so I think they’re just going to see what’s best for this team."

If Gallery were moved to right tackle, Lane Kiffin said Chris Morris or McQuistan would be the left guard.

The deadline to put Bush on the 53-man roster came and went. Bush remains on the Physically Unable to Perform list, and will be there for the rest of the season ineligible to practice or play with the team. He will work out on the side with injured players and attend all meetings and functions.

Still on the roster are Jordan and Rhodes, who were thought to be the 1-2 punch back in training camp only to be passed on the depth chart by Justin Fargas. Jordan reportedly asked to be released. Rhodes clearly wouldn't have minded it.

Kiffin conceded Bush was ready to play and that the experience would have helped him.

"We just really didn’t have a spot for him right now. He practiced well and it was good to get a chance to be around him practicing and to get a feel for him," Kiffin said. "It kind of is a security blanket for you if some other things happen, some other injuries or one of the running backs especially but even someone else where a spot would open. But having to sign another lineman today, today being our last day to be able to make a move, we just didn’t have a spot for him."

The end result is the Raiders have a healthy running back who they would like to see play on a physically unable to perform list (technically the non-football injury list) and two veteran running backs who they haven't wanted to put in the game still on the roster.

They've also got a fourth quarterback in Andrew Walter who in no way fits into the club's longterm future other than as a low-priced backup _ something Walter does not want to be.

It's not hard to envision Kiffin wanting Bush active, but Al Davis deciding he didn't want to see one of his veteran running backs helping Kansas City or Denver over the next two weeks.

The Chiefs will start Kolby Smith, a fifth-round draft pick and former Louisivlle teammate of Bush, against the Raiders. Larry Johnson is out with a foot injury and Priest Holmes retired Wednesday after a neck injury.

In Denver, Travis Henry is battling a bum knee and is reportedly facing a possible suspension.

When I asked Kiffin if the Raiders were hesitant to cut a running back which could help an opponent, he said, "You mean like the team we're facing Sunday? Yeah, sure. Everything counts. You've got to look at everything and I'm sure that's a part of it. Denver and Kansas City need a running back."

Kiffin tried his best to keep Bush's spirits up.

"I talked to him this morning about today, he's competing to be the starting running back next year, and he should go about every day that way, the way he works in the weight room, the way he pays attention in the meetings and how serious he prepares," Kiffin said. " He's going to play these teams two times a year. He should be studying Kansas City, studying the others, so if he's the starting running back next year, he's ready for it. He should prepare that way."

Rhodes said he is as confused as anyone as to why he is not getting much action even as a change-of-pace back. When asked if he wished he had been waived to make room for Bush, Rhodes broke into a smile and said, "Oh, man, I’d really rather not answer that kind of question, know what I’m sayin? Like I said, I’m just here trying to help this team right now and that’s the bottom line."

Later, Rhodes conceded the obvious _ that he wouldn't have signed with Oakland if he had any idea how things would play out.

"I know there are a lot of teams I'd be starting on right now," Rhodes said. "I think God does things for a reason and I'm just here waiting for opportunities."

(Note: If you're thinking Jordan and Rhodes will bring something in trade before the draft, guess again. Jordan is scheduled to make $4.7 million in 2008 and $5 million in 2009. Rhodes is due $5 million in 2008, with $3 million in salary and $2 million in a roster bonus. When you trade for a player, you trade for the contract. Teams know the Raiders don't intend to pay those figures either, and they'll simply wait until they are cut and sign them as free agents).

More news, notes and observations:

– JaMarcus Russell said he is fine with Kiffin's stated plan being in a non-starting role, and said he doesn't know when that time will come. Russell said he first played as a reserve at LSU and led a comeback victory.

Kiffin said Monday he thought Russell made "great strides" last week in practice. Starter Daunte Culpepper said Russell's improvement has been steady.

"I think he’s gradually getting better from the first time I saw him to now and he’s continued to do that," Culpepper said. "And I’m going to continue to help him out any way I can."

– LB Isaiah Ekejiuba, who reinjured the same ankle which caused him to miss the first four games, did not practice and was walking with a pronounced limp in the locker room.

– It was overshadowed on a league-wide basis by the shot Jacksonville's Maurice Jones-Drew laid on Shawne Merriman, but Fargas absolutely crushed Minnesota's Ben Leber in a pass blocking situation Sunday.

Leber was down on all fours for a few moments before he could get back up.

"I've got to give him a little payback for the way they hit me," Fargas said.

– With Jake Grove (knee) out and Jeremy Newberry suiting up but not practicing, Chris Morris was the center Wednesday. Newberry is expected to play, however. Grove believes that if he takes a few days off the knee could calm down to the point where he could play.

– Wand, the tackle signed to take the place of Green, was a 16-game starter for the Houston Texans in 2004. He was predominantly a special teams player with Houston in 2005, released by the Texans in 2006 and picked up by Tennessee. He played seven games for the Titans but didn't make it out of training camp this year.

– CB Nnamdi Asomugha, kicked in the head against Minnesota, practiced without restrictions, as did S Stuart Schweigert, who had a quadriceps contusion. Neither were listed on the injury report.

– WR Jerry Porter was limited in practice.

– As the losses pile up, so do the insults. Minnesota coach Brad Childress, talking about the challenge of Tavaris Jackson this week playing against the New York Giants, said, "You don't get to play them all against the Oakland Raiders. These guys are a 7-3 football team."

Jackson, not known as an accurate passer, was 17-for-22 for 171 yards against Oakland with an interception.
 
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It is getting to the point where I don't even understand this team any more. Why would free agents come to this team the way that we treat them? Why is our first consideration not to help another team instead of trying to improve our own? Our team is run completely back assward and it is getting really old. If any business were run like our team it would have declared bankruptcy long ago. It is no wonder we are always claiming that we are broke. We don't have a damn person one in the organization that has a damn clue.
 
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It is getting to the point where I don't even understand this team any more. Why would free agents come to this team the way that we treat them? Why is our first consideration not to help another team instead of trying to improve our own? Our team is run completing back assward and it is getting really old. If any business were run like our team it would have declared bankruptcy long ago. It is no wonder we are always claiming that we are broke. We don't have a damn person one in the organization that has a damn clue.
You beat me to it Destiny.

WTF is going on with this team? Why aren't we actrivating Michael Bush. His leg isn't healed up after a yer and a half? If not we pissed another draft pick away. Why aren't we playing the young kids? You;d think we were in the thick of a playoff run. Nothing could be further from the truth. Fact is we absolutely suck and we need answers. Maybe some of the answers are on the bench or the PUP. News falsh -- we have an opportunity to see these young guys play (Higgins, Henderson, Bush, Russell etc.) in real live competition but we're treating them like they're completely incapable of understanding the play book? Fuck that. I refuse to believe that line of bullshit.

This organization operates very strangly. We traded a third for Henderson and by year end we'll have no idea if the man can play a lick in real games. *shrug* I'm tired of this crap.

And now, what the fuck are we going to with tht whinning, bad attidude fat running bakc Jordan? Let him stew on the inactive list for the rest of the seaosn. I'd say his trade value is necxt to nothing... :banghead: We let a HOF RB go to our rivals in the division and we're afraid the big bad LaMont fucking Jordan might follow suit? So what?
 
You beat me to it Destiny.

WTF is going on with this team? Why aren't we actrivating Michael Bush. His leg isn't healed up after a yer and a half? If not we pissed another draft pick away. Why aren't we playing the young kids? You;d think we were in the thick of a playoff run. Nothing could be further from the truth. Fact is we absolutely suck and we need answers. Maybe some of the answers are on the bench or the PUP. News falsh -- we have an opportunity to see these young guys play (Higgins, Henderson, Bush, Russell etc.) in real live competition but we're treating them like they're completely incapable of understanding the play book? Fuck that. I refuse to believe that line of bullshit.

This organization operates very strangly. We traded a third for Henderson and by year end we'll have no idea if the man can play a lick in real games. *shrug* I'm tired of this crap.

And now, what the fuck are we going to with tht whinning, bad attidude fat running bakc Jordan? Let him stew on the inactive list for the rest of the seaosn. I'd say his trade value is necxt to nothing... :banghead: We let a HOF RB go to our rivals in the division and we're afraid the big bad LaMont fucking Jordan might follow suit? So what?

I guess I understand the organization's point. With our D, Jordan could easily gain 200 yards, which would be pretty damn embarrassing is we are saying he can't play. That is a perfectly logical reason not to try to improve our team or try out the talent we do have. Of course, I could probably gain 200 yards against our D, so I am expecting a call from the Raiders front office any minute now to lock me up and keep me from playing for KC. Like I said, perfectly logical.
 
There are times when I psyched to see Al get involved (DC, Walter, Russell).... and there are times when I can't stand when he gets involved (Bush, Gallery)....

Either way, it looks like he's got Kiffin by the balls right now because Al clearly has his fingerprints all over the offensive roster.
 
Hey don't look at me for answers. I am totally baffled.
 
If they were smart they should have traded Rhodes long ago. Even now is a good moment cos you can get a lot from a good bargaining based on a desperate client like KC or Denver, a relatively high pick for example. They're desperate for a RB, make them pay for it. We already lost the season, what difference does it make? addition by substraction? We should be working for next season already, players could be lot less stressed. They face the probability of not winning one more game, it's scary for a pro. If they take it as a free ride they may play a little more relaxed and maybe pull out a win somehow.

As a fan I'm sad cos it could've added a little interest. Russell to Bush... If it's gonna be the future why do they restrain of at least taking a glimpse?
 
If they were smart they should have traded Rhodes long ago. Even now is a good moment cos you can get a lot from a good bargaining based on a desperate client like KC or Denver, a relatively high pick for example. They're desperate for a RB, make them pay for it. We already lost the season, what difference does it make? addition by substraction? We should be working for next season already, players could be lot less stressed. They face the probability of not winning one more game, it's scary for a pro. If they take it as a free ride they may play a little more relaxed and maybe pull out a win somehow.

As a fan I'm sad cos it could've added a little interest. Russell to Bush... If it's gonna be the future why do they restrain of at least taking a glimpse?

you can't make trades after week 6 or we'd still be shopping walter.
 
This sucks. Michael Bush is clearly in the future plans after reading Kiffin's quote's. Maybe he is in good shape but not ready for the jump to the NFL at this point over Dom Rhodes, Fargas and LJ. If he takes his offseason seriously and comes back 100% healthy and ready to be the starter next year this move might be smart. Why risk Bush if your not going to play JaMarcus or Henderson, JHL, O'Neil, Bowie etc.. all havent done squat. We are seriously nursing these kids. I hope Kiffin plans to dump the older dead weight and bring in some high quality semi- young free agents... if not we are fucked. It's obvious we Kiffin is coaching this team for the future and is aware of the players on this team who need to go...

I think the only real things for anyone to look forward to are us playing out the season and hopefully getting a division win, cutting the dead weight and spending the huge amount of cap room we have on quality young free agents. Then drafting McFadden , Dorsey or Long and another starter in Rnd 2. We have some quality young players on defense and might be a FS and DLine starter away form being very good.

here is my drunken dream of next year...

QB- JaMarcus, McCown, Rook
RB- D.McFadden, Bush, Fargas
FB- Griffith, O'Neil
WR- B.Berrian, R.Curry, JLHiggins, L.Sweed/E.Doucet/M.Manningam (Rnd 2)
LT- B.Sims, M.Henderson
LG- R.Gallery
C- J.Grove / Newberry/ Rookie
RG. Carlisle
RT- J. Gross
TE. Z.Miller, J.Madsen

DE- D.Burgess , C.Clemons
DE- T.Suggs/J.Kearse/D.Howard, J.Richarson
DT- G.Warren, T.Kelly
DT- Sands, Sapp
OLB - L.Briggs
MLB- K.Morrison
OLB- T.Howard
CB- Nnamdi Asomugha
CB- S.Routt
CB- F.Washinton, Bowe
FS- E.Wilson, Stu
SS- M.Huff
 
Robert Gallery tries his best not to break a sweat while blocking.
Edited for accuracy.

LaMont Jordan had no comment, but that was likely due to his having a mouthful of fried chicken.
See above.

With a 2-8 record and six difficult games remaining to be played, it's not exactly a big, happy family in Alameda.
Sounds like the fears of Kiffin losing the team may not be without merit.

The lone transactions Wednesday found the Raiders placing starting right tackle Cornell Green on injured reserve and signing Seth Wand, a 6-foot-7, 327 pound tackle who didn't make it out of training camp with the Tennessee Titans.

At practice Wednesday, Paul McQuistan and Robert Gallery worked at right tackle. Gallery started at right tackle in his first and second seasons, moving to left tackle last season and left guard this season.
Okay...so we added a scrub to our OL to compete for the starting RT position that we have two other guys, and a wasted draft pick, in line for? Why? That makes absolutely no sense.

If Gallery were moved to right tackle, Lane Kiffin said Chris Morris or McQuistan would be the left guard.
So where does Wand fit in again?

The deadline to put Bush on the 53-man roster came and went. Bush remains on the Physically Unable to Perform list, and will be there for the rest of the season ineligible to practice or play with the team. He will work out on the side with injured players and attend all meetings and functions.
:shakehead:

Still on the roster are Jordan and Rhodes, who were thought to be the 1-2 punch back in training camp only to be passed on the depth chart by Justin Fargas. Jordan reportedly asked to be released. Rhodes clearly wouldn't have minded it.
Kiffin won't even activate a healthy Jordan or use Rhodes on anything more than the occasional kick return. What exactly is our plan at RB?

Kiffin conceded Bush was ready to play and that the experience would have helped him.
So, I ask again, what the hell is our plan at RB? If Bush is ready to go, and we have no desire to play Jordan or Rhodes in even a relief capacity, what in the hell are we doing?

"We just really didn’t have a spot for him right now.
Complete and utter bullshit.

He practiced well and it was good to get a chance to be around him practicing and to get a feel for him," Kiffin said. "It kind of is a security blanket for you if some other things happen, some other injuries or one of the running backs especially but even someone else where a spot would open. But having to sign another lineman today, today being our last day to be able to make a move, we just didn’t have a spot for him."
Did we actually have to sign another lineman? I just don't see why. What good does adding an extra scrub to our line do? Adding another RB would obviously be useful, however. I seriously question our personnel decisions here.

The end result is the Raiders have a healthy running back who they would like to see play on a physically unable to perform list (technically the non-football injury list) and two veteran running backs who they haven't wanted to put in the game still on the roster.
Brilliant, isn't it?

They've also got a fourth quarterback in Andrew Walter who in no way fits into the club's longterm future other than as a low-priced backup _ something Walter does not want to be.
We also have a guy named Josh McClown who serves no purpose other than to, evidently, prevent the activation of a RB we really need to get a look at, if only in practice.

When I asked Kiffin if the Raiders were hesitant to cut a running back which could help an opponent, he said, "You mean like the team we're facing Sunday? Yeah, sure. Everything counts. You've got to look at everything and I'm sure that's a part of it. Denver and Kansas City need a running back."
So cut a QB. Resist the urge to sign that perennial All Pro Seth Wand. Put Grove on IR. Yeesh.

Kiffin tried his best to keep Bush's spirits up.
No...his best would have been to activate him.

"I talked to him this morning about today, he's competing to be the starting running back next year, and he should go about every day that way, the way he works in the weight room, the way he pays attention in the meetings and how serious he prepares," Kiffin said. " He's going to play these teams two times a year. He should be studying Kansas City, studying the others, so if he's the starting running back next year, he's ready for it. He should prepare that way."
Great job of motivating him to do so, Kiff. Ya dunce.

Rhodes said he is as confused as anyone as to why he is not getting much action even as a change-of-pace back. When asked if he wished he had been waived to make room for Bush, Rhodes broke into a smile and said, "Oh, man, I’d really rather not answer that kind of question, know what I’m sayin? Like I said, I’m just here trying to help this team right now and that’s the bottom line."

Later, Rhodes conceded the obvious _ that he wouldn't have signed with Oakland if he had any idea how things would play out.

"I know there are a lot of teams I'd be starting on right now," Rhodes said. "I think God does things for a reason and I'm just here waiting for opportunities."
Looks like god thinks you suck.

(Note: If you're thinking Jordan and Rhodes will bring something in trade before the draft, guess again. Jordan is scheduled to make $4.7 million in 2008 and $5 million in 2009. Rhodes is due $5 million in 2008, with $3 million in salary and $2 million in a roster bonus. When you trade for a player, you trade for the contract. Teams know the Raiders don't intend to pay those figures either, and they'll simply wait until they are cut and sign them as free agents).
Madden freaks, take note.

– It was overshadowed on a league-wide basis by the shot Jacksonville's Maurice Jones-Drew laid on Shawne Merriman, but Fargas absolutely crushed Minnesota's Ben Leber in a pass blocking situation Sunday.

Leber was down on all fours for a few moments before he could get back up.

"I've got to give him a little payback for the way they hit me," Fargas said.
That really was a sweet block. I missed the MJD block, but it must have been a whopper.

– Wand, the tackle signed to take the place of Green, was a 16-game starter for the Houston Texans in 2004. He was predominantly a special teams player with Houston in 2005, released by the Texans in 2006 and picked up by Tennessee. He played seven games for the Titans but didn't make it out of training camp this year.
We're saved.

– WR Jerry Porter was limited in practice.
Due to...

– As the losses pile up, so do the insults. Minnesota coach Brad Childress, talking about the challenge of Tavaris Jackson this week playing against the New York Giants, said, "You don't get to play them all against the Oakland Raiders. These guys are a 7-3 football team."
Yeah, that was kinda fucked.
 
Why doesnt this team ever look to the future ??- they never used nfl europe properly by always
sending street scrubs over rather than see what a draft pick/practise squad player could do.
( except for the brilliant stratagy with Laroi Glover!! )

Conversely the chiefs amongst others sent prospects who made the team.

So if Fargas gets injured now we have to play 2 want away rbs instead of a fit one we need
to keep!

Absolute bloody madness
 
QB- JaMarcus, McCown, Rook
RB- D.McFadden, Bush, Fargas
FB- Griffith, O'Neil
WR- B.Berrian, R.Curry, JLHiggins, L.Sweed/E.Doucet/M.Manningam (Rnd 2)
LT- B.Sims, M.Henderson
LG- R.Gallery
C- J.Grove / Newberry/ Rookie
RG. Carlisle
RT- J. Gross
TE. Z.Miller, J.Madsen

DE- D.Burgess , C.Clemons
DE- T.Suggs/J.Kearse/D.Howard, J.Richarson
DT- G.Warren, T.Kelly
DT- Sands, Sapp
OLB - L.Briggs
MLB- K.Morrison
OLB- T.Howard
CB- Nnamdi Asomugha
CB- S.Routt
CB- F.Washinton, Bowe
FS- E.Wilson, Stu
SS- M.Huff

If we're going into next season with Sims, Gallery and Grove starting on the OL, we're really fugged. :shakehead: I think we need at least two quality FA signings on the OL and a guy capable of starting through the draft. Henderson better be ready to compete for a starting gig or we wasted yet another first day pick on an OL. :mad:

As far as the DL, we'll see the same results with that rotation. I don't think Sapp will be back for cap purposes plus we can use that money to try to go after a space eater. Sands has been absolutely useless after signing that fat deal. He'll probably be back next year though. :rolleyes:

So here's my drunken dream for next year:

QB Russell, Daunte, ?
RB Bush, Fargas, Rookie
FB Griffith, Oneill
WR Chad Johnson, Curry, Adarius Bowman (Ok State) , JLH
LT Mario Henderson, Chad Rinehart (N Iowa)
LG Ryan Lilja, Gallery
C Mike Pollack (Ariz ST), Newberry
RG Carlisle, Grove
RT Jordan Gross, ?
TE Miller, Madsen

DE Burgess, Clemons
DT, Kelly, Warren
DT Corey Williams, Terd
DE Chris Long (VA), Jay Richardson
OLB Howard
MLB Morrison
OLB Alston/Thomas
CB Routt
CB Aso
SS Gibril Wilson
FS Huff
P Lechler
K Seabass
 
Why did we sign Dominic Rhodes?

Kiffin is stating to confuse me. Actually this entire organization confuses me. We make moves that make no sense for the future. We're 2-8 and likely will lose out yet we continued to play people like Barry Sims and 'False Start' Gallery. We don't need to play players who "give us the best chance to win" anymore this season. We need to be sure we're ready for next season for a change by playing the young kids who better be playing next year. Oh hell why give them any game experience? That would make too much sens.

Jesus H. Christ. I hate this team.

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Fuck this is literally becoming the black hole. After this season what FA in their right mind would even consider signing with the Raiders? Wow Kiffen is really scrambling and coming up with nothing recently. I'm really disappointed with how he is handling being a head coach. The guy seems to be just as stubborn as Al on certain things; no wonder the old man likes him. We are in games I'll give him that but his personnel decisions so far are dog shit. Not that we have good personnel but riding McClown for so long was just insane. Now Kiffen seems to be isolating players creating a very uncomfortable environment for himself. Given we have assholes like Jordan but were not getting much from are rookies either and that worries me. Miller has looked good but we never get him the ball. Higgens showed some flashes in the pre-season but quickly died out. Bush well we cut off are nose to despite are face I guess.

I was recently listening to a radio show and they brought up how having a elite receiver really helps a football team. To me we really need to key on this position again and of course having a Qb that doesn't shit his pants.Hopefully that is JR next season, but we all just have to wait and see what he can bring. I'm for drafting defensive line first next year that's a given, but upgrading the receiving core really needs to happen. Every team that is competitive right now has gamebreakers at this position; while we have guys that struggle just moving the chains. A lot of that falls on are QB but how many times have we been hearing no one is open? D-line:O-line: Recievers and hopefully some better decision making from Kiffen next year. That's all I want god dammit and some fucking victories again god dammit . Why can't we get off the snide because of Al fuck fuck fuck........Well I'll be rooting for us against the Chiefs like all the other hardcore fans that are numb to this point. Heres to three wins Baby! :beerbang: Yeah I know getting ahead of myself. I'm ready for the false starts:holding calls:fumbled snaps:defense making a no name look like Jim Brown:Stu whiffing badly:Morrison and Howard overue pursuing:McQuistan getting clowned:Being in the game in the fourth Qaurter; only for us to pee are pants. I'm sure I missed some things but you'll all be there with me suffering. Fuck I just want to watch a good football team again.
 
Why did we sign Dominic Rhodes?

Kiffin is stating to confuse me. Actually this entire organization confuses me. We make moves that make no sense for the future. We're 2-8 and likely will lose out yet we continued to play people like Barry Sims and 'False Start' Gallery. We don't need to play players who "give us the best chance to win" anymore this season. We need to be sure we're ready for next season for a change by playing the young kids who better be playing next year. Oh hell why give them any game experience? That would make too much sens.

Jesus H. Christ. I hate this team.

:raiderbag: :raiderbag: :raiderbag:

I am totally baffled by some of these personnel decisions this year. :confused: Didn't Kiff hand pick Rhodes for this offense? Between LJ and Rhodes that's a lot of coin being paid to two guys who are seeing very little action, if any. Shit we could have used that money to bolster up the Ol or DL.

As far as playing the young kids, i.e. Bush, Henderson, JLH, I have no freaking clue
 
Dumbshits, we can't bail on things right now and go with the kids, 'cuz we're just 3 back -- still in the race!!


errrr .... yeah ....


Me thinks there is something 'wrong' with Rhodes.
Some undisclosed reason why Kiffin has seriously limited his action.

Assuming Al decides to go forward with year two of the Kiffin era (which at this point, despite the very poor record and possible lockerroom discontent brewing, looks to be his only rational move) we will no doubt see some serious housecleaning done.

I'm disappointed in the direction of THIS season's team.
I believe a good coaching job would have had this team starting to believe in itself RIGHT NOW.
I expected to see some rough edges, sure, but had hoped to see a team that was beginning to look like it was pulling together for a change.

Instead I see a team that has had penalties continue an upward trend, along with missed tackles and assignments.
And of course the losing keeps coming.
It feeds on itself.

You'd think that after 4 straight years of drafting in the top ten we'd have some capable players in here by now.
You know, guys who don't CONTINUE to make Pop Warner level mental & effort mistakes week in and week out.

It's just exasperating, frankly.

It's not popular to bash on Kiffin, but I'll be straight.
Forget his age, he's supposed to be an NFL head coach.
He gets no free pass from me.
I just don't think he's done a very good job with THIS year's team.
 
I wanna play.

QB: Russell, Walter, Dennis Dixon (R-Rd6)
RB: Bush, Fargas (FA), Julius Jones (FA)
FB: Griffith, O'Neil

WR: Curry, Bernard Berrian (FA), Madsen (position switch), Higgins, Ernest Wilford (FA)
TE: Miller, Bo Scaife (FA), Wakefield (TE/OT), Stewart

OT: Gallery (RT), Henderson, Wakefield (OT/TE),
OG: Alan Faneca (FA), Carlisle, McQuistan,
C: Newberry, Grove, Morris, Gods help us

DE: Burgess, Chris Long (R-Rd1), Richardson, Clemons (DE/OLB)
DT: Warren, Bryant Young (FA), Red Bryant (R-Rd2), Sands, Kelly

LB: Morrison, Howard, Thomas, Larry Izzo (FA), Clemons (OLB/DE), Rd4 rook?

CB: Aso, Washington, Routt, Carr, Bowie
S: Huff, Cooper, Ken Hamlin (FA)

Specialists: Jano, Lechler, Condo


52, by my count. Hopefully, we can do the O-line more good in reality than I did here.
 
I wanna play.

QB: Russell, Walter, Dennis Dixon (R-Rd6)
RB: Bush, Fargas (FA), Julius Jones (FA)
FB: Griffith, O'Neil

WR: Curry, Bernard Berrian (FA), Madsen (position switch), Higgins, Ernest Wilford (FA)
TE: Miller, Bo Scaife (FA), Wakefield (TE/OT), Stewart

OT: Gallery (RT), Henderson, Wakefield (OT/TE),
OG: Alan Faneca (FA), Carlisle, McQuistan,
C: Newberry, Grove, Morris, Gods help us

DE: Burgess, Chris Long (R-Rd1), Richardson, Clemons (DE/OLB)
DT: Warren, Bryant Young (FA), Red Bryant (R-Rd2), Sands, Kelly

LB: Morrison, Howard, Thomas, Larry Izzo (FA), Clemons (OLB/DE), Rd4 rook?

CB: Aso, Washington, Routt, Carr, Bowie
S: Huff, Cooper, Ken Hamlin (FA)

Specialists: Jano, Lechler, Condo


52, by my count. Hopefully, we can do the O-line more good in reality than I did here.

I could get on board with that, and the personal moves, with the possible exception of Alan Faneca, are all realistic options for the Raiders.

When I actually see the Raiders make a play for a top tier veteran offensive lineman I'll believe it. Until then..........just say Cooper Carlise.
 
Yeah, Faneca and Berrian are almost certainly pipe dreams. But, why not? We must all be on the pipe to still be following this team.
 
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