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Jerry Mac's case against Art (also Brooks to start vs the Jets/ Sapp info)

From Jerry Mac's blog, he'll make a case to retain Art tomorrow...


The case against Shell

Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Wednesday at 5:00 pm


Art Shell presided over the worst offensive showing in the history of the Oakland Raiders and most of the problems were of his doing.

The Raiders have some promise, but it's virtually all on the defensive side of the ball, where Rob Ryan operated in a separate universe.

You don't blow out a coach in one year unless the results were so incomprehensibly terrible that it was made abundantly clear there is no future in the status quo.

Like the Raiders.

Shell promised a power running game. The Raiders can't run or don't run, ranked No. 28 in the NFL.

Shell talked of a return to the vertical passing game. They have no pass play over 57 yards and no receiver with 10 or more catches averaging more than 13.9 per reception.

Shell hired inexperienced line coaches in Irv Eatman and Jackie Slater, then revamped the blocking scheme, eliminating virtually all zone schemes for straight-up, man-to-man, power blocking. All downhill, always advancing. The Raiders can't open holes for their runners and have given up a staggering 70 sacks.

He wasted no time in making his first mistake, appointing Tom Walsh as his offensive coordinator. Walsh hadn't coached in the NFL since 1994, the year he and Shell were run off together in a palace coups by Mike White and friends.

The Raiders struggled mightily, made little in the way of adjutments and finally Walsh flopped positions with tight ends coach John Shoop, who had been an offensive coordinator with the Chicago Bears.

All indications are that Shell didn't want to make this move, and that it was done at the best of Davis. Shoop has shortened up passing routes and been more creative, but hasn't been able to undo the damage done to the foundation which was laid by Walsh and Shell.

Proper clock management and correct use of instant replay has been a season-long mystery. The Raiders are so disorganized offensively they routinely get to the fourth quarter without a full complement iftime outs.

Shell's handling of the roster was as bad as his execution of philosophy.

There were problems early on with Jerry Porter, and rather than work to solve them, Porter became a Raider in exile. It's hard to imagine the me-first Porter being a sympathetic figure, but Shell managed to pull it off. He got one reception for 19 yards out of what should have been his No. 2 receiver.

Porter got off on a bad foot with a bad face-to-face meeting with Shell last April. Randy Moss never said anything inflammatory to Shell directly, so he got a free pass.

Moss started the season talking about how things were "fishy'' on the Raiders before the opener, and managed to say something every other week which was construed as negative about the Raiders.

At a press conference announcing an award for college return specialists, Moss broke a silence with local reporters long enough to say the reason he was dropping so many passes was because he was unhappy and in a bad mood.

Shell chose not to deal with this issue, either, and Moss went on his un-merry way dropping balls and looking disinterested until he suffered an ankle injury against Cincinnati, one that apparently has finished his season.

Not long after Walsh was demoted, Shell spoke to the local media about his concerns over an element of the Raiders front office which was trashing his tenure as coach behind his back with anonymous quotes to the media.

The man Shell was talking about was personnel executive Mike Lombardi. Two problems _ Shell never named Lombardi, and by going public with his concerns he was doing something he urges players not to do _ go to the media with their complaints.

If you're Davis, you add it all up, write it all off to a mistake you made with the best of intentions, and move on.

Next: The case to retain Shell


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Wednesday's news and notes:

– QB Aaron Brooks practiced without pain Wednesday, and barring a setback, will start for the Raiders against the Jets Sunday.

– WR Randy Moss did not practice and was termed by Shell "very doubtful'' even as the injury report listed him as questionable. Whatever the official designation, Shell said Johnnie Morant would start with Doug Gabriel getting on the field in three wide receiver sets.

– DT Warren Sapp expects to have a chat with management regarding his future shortly after the season ends.

"I plan on having a sit-down or talk with everybody upstairs, seeing what they're planning for me because I know what I have planned for me,'' Sapp said. "Just going to sit down, have a nice conversation and see what everybody is thinking. See if we're all on the same page. If not, then we'll go different ways. If so, then we'll find a way to come back and put this thing on and go for another 25 weeks.''

– Sapp said it's not his place to make reccomendations to Davis regarding the coaching staff. Brooks said essentially the same thing but said he believes in Shell.

Running back LaMont Jordan didn't say anything negative regarding Shell but made it clear he liked the way John Shoop went about the business of running an offense, as opposed to Tom Walsh.

"I know that Shoop has the guts to try new things,'' Jordan said. "Shoop is the kind of coach where if you say, `I can do this, put me in a position to do this,' then he's going to say, `you asked for it, there you go. Make it work.'

"You don't want a coach where as a player you have no input. And I feel that's how things were at the beginning of the season. And it's one of those things that carried over through the entire season. Offenisvely, we let out defense down. We let our team down. And the only thing we can do is come back next year, and whatever happens, happens.''

– WR Ronald Curry was the named the winner of the team's Ed Bloch Courage Award, one of 32 recipients from around the league.
 
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What a fuckin' mess.

Pretty compelling argument for running Shell next Monday.

It'll be interesting to see Jerry Mac's counter argument.
 
I thought homeboy was supposed to start against the Chiefs? :confused:

I'm so... flustered. But it's almost over.
 
CrossBones said:
What a fuckin' mess.


True dat... I hope we get it together offensively because in addition to San Diego and Denver, next years schedule features the defenses of Chicago, Jax, Minny and Miami... ::sigh:: Jason fuggin Taylor again...
 
What's the point of starting a lame duck QB who won't be back next season?
 
Madturk said:
What's the point of starting a lame duck QB who won't be back next season?

There isn't one. Shell is an idiot. I loved him as a player but I think he may have gotten his bell rung a few too many times in his playing days. If nothing else I would like to see Kent Smith get a few reps. Why the hell not?
 
hawaiianboy said:
Shell hired inexperienced line coaches in Irv Eatman and Jackie Slater, then revamped the blocking scheme, eliminating virtually all zone schemes for straight-up, man-to-man, power blocking. All downhill, always advancing. The Raiders can't open holes for their runners and have given up a staggering 70 sacks.

He wasted no time in making his first mistake, appointing Tom Walsh as his offensive coordinator. Walsh hadn't coached in the NFL since 1994, the year he and Shell were run off together in a palace coups by Mike White and friends.

The Raiders struggled mightily, made little in the way of adjutments and finally Walsh flopped positions with tight ends coach John Shoop, who had been an offensive coordinator with the Chicago Bears.


Proper clock management and correct use of instant replay has been a season-long mystery. The Raiders are so disorganized offensively they routinely get to the fourth quarter without a full complement iftime outs.

Shell's handling of the roster was as bad as his execution of philosophy.

I think Jerry Mcdonald pretty much nailed it here.
 
I'm really curious to see what McDonald puts on the other side of the ledger. I can't really come up with anything. Other then the vanilla "1-year ain't enough time" and "nobody else will take the job".
 
Banter said:
I'm really curious to see what McDonald puts on the other side of the ledger. I can't really come up with anything. Other then the vanilla "1-year ain't enough time" and "nobody else will take the job".
Heh...that's about where I am. The Raiders don't have a lot of options. Mac's +side analysis ought to be fun...where is it?
 
Al needs to open up the wallet and pay somebody so much they cant turn this job down. Then sign a monster FA or two. Dump whoever doesnt want to play here and have a good draft. If not i am going to start watching porno 24-7.
 
BigTron said:
Al needs to open up the wallet and pay somebody so much they cant turn this job down.

New guy. Don't get up Gentlemen, I'm probably only passing through. (And TG, no woman is ever expected to even notice the likes of me. But based on what I read, many here might start standing for you at 40 paces.)

Seems to me that coaching is the one aspect still available to a team that wants to beat the parity game - i.e. salary cap, FA, exhaustive information on the draft prospects. Every team is drawing from the same player talent pool, with the same scounting and combine info, all within a scaled system. The coaches salaries are not included in the cap and is unregulated. Yet, Al doesn't seem to believe in a market economy for talented coaches. Not that just paying top dollar is the simple solution. As with the players, still need to be able to identify talented coaches. Just like finding the diamond in the rough player ("project player" that becomes All Pro), Al seems to want to find the unhearlded coach to turn into a Super Bowl winner. No doubt gratifying when it happens, but it seems like an incredibly hard way to go about the business.
 
He offered Petrino a good contract... Its more hes willing to pay what youre worth. Gruden isnt worth the bucks hes getting now. Payton was offered a meager contract. Al wants to get a deal or get what the guy is worth. he wont overpay a coach.
 
Jokerman said:
Welcome.

Jokerman said:
Seems to me that coaching is the one aspect still available to a team that wants to beat the parity game - i.e. salary cap, FA, exhaustive information on the draft prospects. Every team is drawing from the same player talent pool, with the same scounting and combine info, all within a scaled system. The coaches salaries are not included in the cap and is unregulated. Yet, Al doesn't seem to believe in a market economy for talented coaches. Not that just paying top dollar is the simple solution. As with the players, still need to be able to identify talented coaches. Just like finding the diamond in the rough player ("project player" that becomes All Pro), Al seems to want to find the unhearlded coach to turn into a Super Bowl winner. No doubt gratifying when it happens, but it seems like an incredibly hard way to go about the business.
This is a place where the Raiders are at a disadvantage. People like Paul Allen can hire coaches and pay what they want. Holmgren I believe is making $8 Million/yr. Contrast that to the $1.8 Million Al is paying Art Shell and you have your problem. First, the Raiders don't have Paul Allen money. Same with a lot of owners in the NFL. Synder comes to mind too. The revenue thing is a problem when it comes to uncapped coaching salaries. Not that Al can use that as a total excuse -- he's cheap and always has been when it comes to HC's but still it's a consideration. Playing in that shit hole stadium doesn't exactly have the money rolling in.

On Petrino, the way I heard it (maybe from HB) is that Lombardi pretty much had a deal done with "Bernard"...money wan't the issue but when it came down to the terms of the ctntract Al wanted a 2 year deal with a club option on a third. Petrino wanted a 3 year deal with coaches option on a 4th. Al balked and it was a deal breaker. Sounds very much like that may have been how it went down. Oh wait, I forgot, his kid didn't want him to go cuz he was in his last year of high school. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
 
Madturk said:
What's the point of starting a lame duck QB who won't be back next season?

Because the Raiders are probably still evaluating him? We already know that Andrew Walter, who has been largely ineffective WILL be back next season, whether it be as a starter or back-up, but the team isn't sure about Brooks.

JMO
 
You think the Raiders are going to give Brooks a $5 Million roster bonus?
 
CrossBones said:
You think the Raiders are going to give Brooks a $5 Million roster bonus?


If Al agrees to that then it's time for the guys with the funny white jacket.
 
CrossBones said:
You think the Raiders are going to give Brooks a $5 Million roster bonus?

Probably not, but they could still release & re-sign him at a different salary. Personally, I'm not sold on Brooks or Walter, but then again this is year 1 under the new system, coaching staff, etc.

Oh yeah, don't tell anyone else this.....but our offensive line....well, it isn't very good.....

:)
 
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