Brayton May get Suspended. But was he provoked?

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Shell against suspension, says Stevens acted first
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ALAMEDA, Calif. -- Raiders coach Art Shell worked in the NFL office long enough to know that Tyler Brayton will be punished for kneeing Seattle's Jerramy Stevens in the groin.

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Shell just hopes the punishment will be a fine, not a suspension, because he said videotape showed that Brayton was only reacting to a kick from Stevens.

"Tyler was reacting to someone trying to kick him in the groin area," Shell said Tuesday. "So there was a reaction to that. Sometimes when there's pushing and shoving, you might not react. But when that happens, guys will react and he did. There will be something. What it is, I don't know. Could be a fine. Hopefully that's all it will be. Then we'll go from there."

Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren disagreed with Shell's interpretation of the tape, saying Stevens' foot got extended as he tried to disengage from Brayton.

"It wasn't anything close to resembling what actually occurred, afterward ...," Holmgren said, comparing what Stevens did to Brayton's reaction. "If you look at the film, I think it's pretty clear that's not what happened."

Both Brayton and Stevens were unavailable for comment Tuesday.

Shell, who heard player appeals on fines and suspensions for on-field conduct during his time in the NFL office, gave the Raiders' side of the story to the league earlier Tuesday.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league was looking into the play and could have a decision on further punishment as soon as Wednesday.

Shell said he hopes that Stevens gets the same punishment that Brayton does.

"It should because he initiated it and Tyler reacted," Shell said. "You tell your guys not to react to things like that, but in that situation you understand."

The play in question happened in the final minutes of Oakland's 16-0 loss to Seattle on Monday night. Brayton and Stevens were pushing and grabbing at each other's shoulders away from a 4-yard run by Mack Strong with 1:54 remaining in the game.

Shell said a replay showed that Stevens tried to kick Brayton. Brayton then responded by raising his right knee onto the upper inside half of Stevens' left thigh while an official watched just yards away. Brayton got a penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct and was ejected.

Brayton admitted after the game that he made a mistake and shouldn't have let his emotions get the best of him. But he didn't accuse Stevens of acting first.

Stevens said he did nothing to antagonize Brayton and said it was just the reaction of a player frustrated by the loss.

Raiders safety Stuart Schweigert, who drew a taunting foul from Stevens earlier in the game, called the tight end a dirty player and said Brayton would never have done what he did without provocation.

"He's not going to do that for no reason," Schweigert said. "He's not going to do it out of frustration. If a guy's doing that and talking stuff, every man has their limit. Sometimes things got to give, and last night it gave for Tyler. So I mean, that stuff happens."

Brayton's infraction was Oakland's third unsportsmanlike penalty in the game, with defensive coordinator Rob Ryan getting one in the first quarter for arguing with an official and defensive lineman Terdell Sands getting called for barking out signals while the Seahawks were attempting an extra point.

But Shell took issue with critics who said Brayton's reaction was a sign that the Raiders had lost their composure.

"That's unfair," Shell said. "It's not losing your composure. Tyler has great character. That's uncharacteristic of him. He doesn't do that. If you look at his track record in the league office in terms of being fined for things I think he's only been fined once, which was for grabbing a face mask, which is normal when you're trying to tackle somebody."

Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press
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I feel braytonwouldnever have done that if he wasnt provoked.
 
Brayton blows.

Suspend him a game or two so that Huntley can get some PT.

On a serious note though, I think Steven's is such a punk he was chirping and taking a cheap shot at Brayton.

Steven's has the thug past...Brayton doesnt.
 
If Tyler had ripped Stevens' helmet off and punched him square in the face, I'd have been behind him because, let's face it, Stevens has spent his entire career - both college and NFL - begging somebody to punch him in the face.

Still, what Tyler did was stupid and low and he'll deserve to be fined or suspended for it. Personally, I watched the replays on TV... and I don't think I'm buying this "reacting to what Stevens did" excuse. I could be wrong... but I saw Stevens pushing and yapping, but I didn't see him try to kick Tyler.
 
Stevens' leg does come up near Brayton's crotch, but it sort of looks like he was just thrown off balance to me.
 
Raiderfan007 said:
Brayton blows.

Suspend him a game or two so that Huntley can get some PT.
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Ha... :D

It's tough for me to buy into all the controversy surrounding this one since Brayton isn't really much of an impact player. If nothing else, at least Brayton will get some good publicity out of this one.
 
Jack's sore libido said:
Stevens' leg does come up near Brayton's crotch, but it sort of looks like he was just thrown off balance to me.
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That's the way I saw it as well.
 
SoCalRaider said:
Ha... :D

It's tough for me to buy into all the controversy surrounding this one since Brayton isn't really much of an impact player. If nothing else, at least Brayton will get some good publicity out of this one.
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Welcome aboard, SoCal.

Good to see ya.
 
Jack's sore libido said:
Stevens' leg does come up near Brayton's crotch, but it sort of looks like he was just thrown off balance to me.
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Yes, that's how it apears, but when you're in a shoving match with someone, and you feel a knee graze your crotch, are you going to ask yourself if they meant to?
 
brayton is fined 25k stevens 15k...Art has league office pull.
 
Fuckin' Stevens. That guy was cauing gtrouble the entire game. A head butting incident; got Stu all worked up; and had Sapp on the verge of fighting the entire Hags team by himself if necessary.

Stevens is a punk.

I heard Tyler on the Dan Patick radio show today. Guy seems really sorry for what happened but told Patrick it was a culmination of frustration that had built up and when Stevens did his thing Tyler kind of snapped.

He was happy that Warren Sapp and Coach Shell had his back in the incident.
 
Rupert said:
Yes, that's how it apears, but when you're in a shoving match with someone, and you feel a knee graze your crotch, are you going to ask yourself if they meant to?
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I agree.

I'm not saying Brayton's reaction was wrong.

Just saying that when they're doling out fines, it should be noted that Stevens didn't actually attack Brayton the way Brayton attacked Stevens.
 
After listening to Tyler Brayton today - I think we get a pretty good idea about what kind of person he is.

Even if you forget that Jerramy Stevens already has a reputation for being a dirty player in the NFL, his off the field behavior reminds you who he is.
In 1998 - pled guilty to assault - while going to college in Washington
2000 arrested for sexual-assault allegation - charges dropped.
2001 pled guilty to hit and run when he plowed his car into a retirement home and then took off. A complete PUNK!
2003 arrested for DUI w/two open champagne bottles on the front seat - When he plead guilty to reckless driving it was his seventh moving violation since July 2002.

Brayton has been a model citizen and was the unquestioned leader & defensive MVP at Colorado. He's struggled as a LB
and at DE but after reviewing the tape, I don't know that I blame him a bit.
 
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Jack's sore libido said:
I agree.

I'm not saying Brayton's reaction was wrong.

Just saying that when they're doling out fines, it should be noted that Stevens didn't actually attack Brayton the way Brayton attacked Stevens.
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It looks like they agree: 25K for Tyler 15K for a$$hole.

Bones's friend Tony's response was very funny at the time. He was watching through the binoculars. He sat almost straight up (he was leaning forward), "He kicked him right in the Jimmy." I was just about to talk to Bones and turned just in time to see the flag fall from the apex, "Who?"
 
I'll say this, Brayton showed pretty good muay thai form with that knee....


And I agree it would make a good gif for an avatar... That is if the NFL doesn't get all pissy seeing as how they ordered youtube to remove all NFL clips :rolleyes:
 
hawaiianboy said:
I'll say this, Brayton showed pretty good muay thai form with that knee....


And I agree it would make a good gif for an avatar... That is if the NFL doesn't get all pissy seeing as how they ordered youtube to remove all NFL clips :rolleyes:
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are you friggin serious? they ordered you tube to remove all nfl clips?
 
Plunkett16 said:
are you friggin serious? they ordered you tube to remove all nfl clips?
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Yeah, the No Fun League decided to knee us in the eggets as well... I have a feeling making a payment to the NFL to play FFL is next....

From Profootballtalk:

NFL SAYS "YOMOMMA" TO YOUTUBE

The San Jose Mercury News reports that the folks at Internet phenom YouTube.com recently wiped out 3,000 clips of NFL content at the request of the league office.

"[W]e recently asked the site to remove more than 3,000 clips featuring NFL game footage," NFL director of corporate communications Brian McCarthy said. "The site complied.''

We've also received from a reader a copy of a notice that he received from YouTube regarding the posting of NFL copyrighted content. The notice contains the following warning: "Repeat incidents of copyright infringement will result in the deletion of your account and all videos uploaded to that account. In order to avoid future strikes against your account, please delete any videos to which you do not own the rights, and refrain from uploading additional videos that infringe on the copyrights of others."

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act provides the legal rules in this regard, and YouTube is insulated (in theory) against liability for the posting on its site of copyrighted material, if it promptly takes down the content upon the request of the holder of the copyright.

But there's something about that procedure that doesn't sit well with us, frankly. In our 24-hour-news-cycle society, the fact that a clip is available even if for only a day is more than enough time for most interested people to get a look-see.

Look, we're not opposed to having instant (and free) access to NFL highlights. But we also believe that the NFL (and anyone else who holds a copyright on publicly desirable content) should be entitled to have their rights respected without being forced to constantly police whether their rights are being violated. Really, shouldn't the obligation be on the YouTubes of the world to ensure that copyrighted content isn't being posted?

And while it appears that many NFL clips we've seen in the past (such as Ocho Stinko getting jacked up by Brian Russell of the Browns) are long gone, a search for "Tyler Brayton" reveals multiple clips of Brayton's knee knocking the nuts of Jerramy Stevens.

Moving forward, our hope is that the NFL.com web site will include a searchable database of clips that allows fans to pull up short segments with the same ease that YouTube provides. The challenge for the NFL, if it ever would adopt such a service, would be to determine whether to charge for the ability to sift through game footage in this way -- or whether to generate revenue via advertising.
 
Does a knee to the jimmy really hurt all that bad anyway? I think you guys make it up. :P
 
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