Bobby Hamilton Traded To The New York Jets

Jets acquire DE Hamilton from Raiders

Friday, September 1, 2006


(09-01) 18:09 PDT EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (AP) --


The New York Jets acquired defensive end Bobby Hamilton from the Oakland Raiders on Friday for an undisclosed draft pick.


This will be Hamilton's second stint with the Jets, having played for them from 1996-99. The 12-year veteran spent two years with the Raiders, recording 102 tackles, 2 1/2 sacks and starting 28 games. But his chances of making the team were in doubt as Oakland has lots of depth on the defensive line.


"Bobby has done good for this organization," Raiders coach Art Shell said. "It would have been tough to keep him here. We wanted to make sure we gave him every opportunity to go somewhere else and get a chance."


The Jets were in need of help on the line, where they have some depth problems. Linemen Sione Pouha and Tui Alailefaleula were placed on injured reserve and Monsanto Pope left the team for personal reasons.


They have been busy making trades before the regular-season starts, with four deals in two days. On Thursday, they traded tight end Doug Jolley to the Bucs and acquired tight end Sean Ryan from the Cowboys. They also traded quarterback Brooks Bollinger to the Vikings for defensive tackle C.J. Mosley.


Also Friday, the Jets signed defensive back Hank Poteat, who played in the preseason finale later in the day against the Eagles. Poteat spent the last two seasons with the Patriots and played for current Jets coach Eric Mangini. New England waived him Tuesday.
 
Hamilton traded, plus game notes

On a 5:30 conference call with coach Art Shell, the Raiders announced that defensive end Bobby Hamilton has been traded to the Jets for an undisclosed draft pick. Hamilton was a mainstay of the defensive line for two seasons, but did not seem to figure in the team's plans this year. At 35, he simply didn't offer enough in the pass rush to justify playing time.


Hamilton will be missed by the writers, and almost certainly by his former coaches and teammates. He wasn't always a great quote, but he was one of those dignified athletes who command respect. He was like an extra coach for the Raiders, too, almost always staying after practice to work one-on-one with a young D-lineman.


The good news for Hamilton is that he gets a chance to play for somebody this year. He's going back to New York, where he played from 1996-99 (though the location seems like an odd fit for the Mississippi native with his thick Southern drawl). And he'll be playing for Eric Mangini, whose system should be similar to the scheme that helped Hamilton win two Super Bowl rings in New England.

Now on to the Seahawks game:

So this is what it has come to: Jerry Porter, main man of the Raiders' receiving corps for a brief period in 2004 and former budding star, out there with Rod Smart and Kevin McMahan, mopping up as the clock winds down on a lopsided loss at Qwest Field. As Ronald Curry integrates into the offense and Johnnie Morant looks back on his usual strong preseason performance, Porter twists in the wind.

It will be very interesting to see what becomes of Porter in the coming weeks. Will the Raiders lower their standards and unload him in a trade? Will owner Al Davis and coach Art Shell decide he's been punished enough and welcome him back into the fold? Will he rot on the vine all season, like outcasts Marcus Allen and Steve Beuerlein before him?

I talked to a couple of Raiders front-office people Thursday, and they seemed genuinely to have no idea.

Leaving Aaron Brooks' locker in the crowded visitors' locker room after the game, I turned and nearly ran straight into Porter, who was exiting with a roller suitcase. I apologized and moved aside, and he shot me a glare that I interpreted as half "get out of my way" and half "don't even think about interviewing me."

Don't worry, pal. Suddenly, there isn't much you can tell me about the Raiders' on-field performance.

Other notes from Seattle:

Michael Huff again came up frustratingly short on a big play. Remember the Vikings game, when he missed Chester Taylor in the backfield on a third-and-one play, and Minnesota converted the first down into a touchdown? Thursday night, Huff blitzed and got a hand on Matt Hasselbeck, but the quarterback beat the rush and threw to Nate Burleson. Nnamdi Asomugha interfered, and it led to a Seattle touchdown.

Huff was regarded as an uncommon physical specimen after his performance at the scouting combine in February, but he doesn't strike me as someone who can dominate on speed and strength alone. He has to make those plays. Fortunately for the Raiders, he does seem to be in the right place a lot of the time; he just needs to learn to seal the deal.

The team certainly is making good on its promise to use Huff in various roles. When the Seahawks split their tight end wide on a couple plays, Huff was out there in single coverage, nose to nose with his opponent.

The familiar faces most in jeopardy of finding themselves among Saturday's cuts: LB Danny Clark, DE Bobby Hamilton, OL Brad Badger, QB Marques Tuiasosopo and WR Alvis Whitted.

What might save each of them: Clark is injury insurance should one of the backers (read: Sam Williams) fall to injury. Hamilton's specialty is stopping the run, something the Raiders haven't really proven they can do. Badger is versatile, and Jake Grove is hurt. Tui comes cheap and knows how to run a scout team. Whitted is on the James Jett Scholarship, awarded semi-annually to a sprinter whom Al Davis fancies as a receiver.

The game was a mixed bag for John Madsen, a sentimental long shot to make the squad at tight end. On one hand, with Randal Williams down, Madsen saw the field on the Raiders' fourth play from scrimmage, getting valuable time with the first team. On the other, he doinked an easy pass in the flat in the second quarter.

How about the rejuvenated Sebastian Janikowski? Not only did he go 7-for-7 on field goals in the preseason. He has been routinely banging his kickoffs deep into the end zone. He kicked off twice Thursday, and both were downed for touchbacks. His opening kickoff nearly sailed completely out of the end zone.
 
Hamilton to Jets

September 1st, 2006

The Raiders announced before a conference call with coach Art Shell Friday night that veteran defensive end Bobby Hamilton had been traded to the New York Jets for an undisclosed draft choice.

Hamilton, 35, joined the Raiders before the 2004 season and had been a locker room leader as well as a solid run defender. He arrived at the same time as defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who was linebackers coach with the New England Patriots when Hamiton was there from 2000 through 2003.

Hamilton played with the Jets through from 1996 through 1999. New York’s coach, Eric Mangini, was a New England assistant when Hamilton played with the Patriots.

“Bobby’s been good for the organization and it would have been tough for him to play here, and we wanted to make sure we gave him the opportunity to go somewhere else and have a chance,'’ Shell said.

Hamilton was replaced at end by Tyler Brayton, a first-round pick from 2002 who had been playing at linebacker. Shell also praised the play of Kevin Huntley, a first-year player who did not play last season after rehabbing from an injury.

_ Jerry McDonald
 
I watched Hamilton last night in the fourth quarter and figured he was toast. He looked slow and used up.

Thanks for being a good Raider. Good luck Bobby.
 
So with Madsen playing with the starters yesterday, it appears that he makes our final roster. Now with Bobby being traded to the Jets, it appears that Huntley will now make the final 53.
 
I was under the impression that Huntley was staying no matter what and that Hamilton was going to get a visit from the Turk. Art's remarks about the trade confirmed my suspicions, "it would have been tough for him to play here."

Madsen probably stays, but it's no guarantee. The question is how well he blocks and how much blocking we want our TE's to do. Still, if Anderson gets hurt, we've had several guys already through here who we could pick up off team living room.

I think Clark sticks unless they can find a good trade partner. He's VERY valuable, but I'd give him the opportunity to start somewhere.

Badger, hmmmm. If they think he's better than Slaughter, Hulsey, and/or Garmon he stays, otherwise, I doubt it. Today I tend to doubt it.

Tui is the biggest question mark on the team. It depends upon how well George does in practices up until the Turk comes knocking.
 
I had Hamilton as a trade on the roster I made up earlier in this thread also and that Huntley was probably going to take his spot. Huntley just needs to get stronger and make up for that lost year in college.

Madsen is not a strong blocker but he pass catches well and Al Davis really likes him. I have a feeling he will get picked up if we try to sneak him onto the practice squad and that will probably keep him on the roster.
 
I agree on Madsen. I think at least a couple teams are thinking, "How did we not draft him?" And that makes him a roster must-have if we want him at all.
 
Raiders trade Hamilton to Jets
Defensive end had been displaced as starter

By Jerry McDonald



When the Art Shell era begins on Sept. 11 against the San Diego Chargers, Bobby Hamilton will not be part of it.

The Raiders traded Hamilton, a starter in 28 of the 30 games he played over the past two seasons, to the New York Jets on Friday for an undisclosed draft choice.

"Bobby's been good for the organization, and it would have been tough for him here," the Raiders coach said in a conference call with Bay Area media. "We wanted to make sure we gave him every opportunity to go somewhere else and have a chance."

The Raiders decided during minicamps that Tyler Brayton, who had been playing linebacker for the past two seasons, would return to the defensive line. He was installed as the starting left end and has not relinquished the position.

Brayton had a couple of nice plays Thursday night in a 30-7 loss to the Seattle Seahawks, a night when those types of plays were few and far between.

Hamilton, 35, played with the second and third defensive units, as he has been since training camp began.

Over the past two seasons, Hamilton has 84 tackles and three sacks. At 6-foot-5, 285 pounds, he has been one of Oakland's most stout run defenders as a base end. He usually came off the field on passing downs in favor of a faster player.

Hamilton, in his 12th year out of Southern Mississippi, played for the New York Jets from 1996-99 and with the New England Patriots from 2000-03.

He is reunited with Jets coach Eric Mangini, who was a Patriots defensive coach while Hamilton was there.

The Raiders must trim 21 more players off the roster by noon today to reach the 53-man limit.

Shell, who was keeping his comments close to the vest regarding who would stay and who would go, said he rolled tape twice on the Raiders' unsightly loss to the Seahawks, which came after a 4-0 start.

"You've got to look at it, find the positives and find the things that you really need to zero in on and work on and get our players better," Shell said. "You want to pick it up, throw it away and burn it up, but you can't do that. You look at it, then move forward."

In terms of health, always a main consideration on cutdown day, the Raiders appeared to emerge intact.

Tight end John Madsen, who had some work with the first team and threw a key block on Chris Carr's 72-yard punt return for a touchdown, twisted an ankle. Shell said he did not know how serious it is.

O.J. Santiago, also a tight end, sustained a heel injury, and backup quarterback Andrew Walter had an MRI on his knee, the result of a sack by Seattle's Chatric Darby.

"No structural damage, he's all right," Shell said.

Shell was encouraged with how Walter, who had tendinitis and bursitis in his throwing shoulder last week, threw the ball.

"I thought he threw the ball pretty decent," Shell said. "He didn't connect like we wanted to, but I thought he was all right. He showed me that his arm was OK."

Two other issues to consider as the Raiders finalize their 2006 roster:

-Four quarterbacks or three? Marques Tuiasosopo struggled as the No.3 quarterback. Newly signed Jeff George did not play. "That's still a work in progress," Shell said. "We'll have a meeting to discuss those things."

-What about Jerry Porter?

Porter appears no closer to getting serious playing time, based on his use in the preseason. He's requested a trade and seems unlikely to get it. He was not only behind Doug Gabriel against Seattle, but Ronald Curry as well. The possibility exists that the Raiders were simply getting a very good look at Curry, who has undergone surgery for a torn left Achilles' tendon in each of the past two seasons.

"He's a part of this team, he'll make a contribution, that's why you're here," Shell said of Porter.

When asked if there was a plan regarding Porter, Shell said, "There is no plan. He's a player. He'll play when we want him to play."

EXTRA POINTS: WR Alvis Whitted sat out with a groin injury, but Shell said he's "doing well." ... LB Darnell Bing (stinger) continues to be monitored, but there was no word on whether his condition is serious. ... TE Randal Williams missed the game with a knee bruise, but Shell said he expected Williams to be cleared to practice today. ... DT Anttaj Hawthorne and DE Kevin Huntley were two players Shell cited as playing well, although when asked about the positives of the Seahawks game, the coach said, "not a whole lot." ... How long would Raiders coaches be working into the night to come up with a 53-man roster? "You work until it's done. There's no set time frame."
 
Likely to be cut, Hamilton is traded
Defensive end goes to Jets for draft pick

David White

Saturday, September 2, 2006

The Raiders traded Bobby Hamilton to the New York Jets, sparing the defensive end a probable roster cut today.

The Jets swapped an undisclosed late-round draft choice in next year's NFL Draft for Hamilton, a 12th-year player who started 28 games in two seasons in Oakland. The Raiders must finalize a 53-man roster by noon today, and coach Art Shell hinted Hamilton wasn't going to make the cut.

"Bobby's been good for the organization and it would have been tough for him here," Shell said Friday. "We wanted to make sure we gave him every opportunity to go somewhere else and have a chance."

Hamilton shared backup snaps with Lance Johnstone and Kevin Huntley. It was unlikely the Raiders would have carried five defensive ends, and they were able to make a trade without forfeiting depth.

Signed as a free agent in 2004, Hamilton (6-foot-5, 285 pounds) had 102 tackles and 21/2 sacks. He lost his starting spot in training camp to Tyler Brayton. Hamilton joins a Jets team that lost three defensive linemen.

Walter update: Backup quarterback Andrew Walter injured his knee in Thursday's 3o-7 loss at Seattle, but an MRI exam showed no damage, Shell said.

Walter was hurt on a vicious sack in the second quarter. He scrambled out of the pocket, then got broadsided when he tried to reverse course.

"He told the trainer, 'I'm fine, I'm fine,' " Shell said. "He went back out there, but we still had to check it."

That's one more reason the Raiders might keep Jeff George as insurance. The team signed the 38-year-old this week after Walter missed time with shoulder tendinitis. George did not play Thursday.

The Raiders have to decide whether to keep a fourth quarterback, or face the possibility of choosing between George and Marques Tuiasosopo. Walter seems the safest of the three.

"That's still a work in progress," Shell said.

Limping: The Raiders probably will keep a backup tight end. Whoever he is, he won't be healthy.

John Madsen twisted an ankle against the Seahawks, and Oscar Santiago hurt his heel. They got significant playing time in place of backup Randal Williams, out with a bruised bone near his knee.

Briefly: Wide receiver Alvis Whitted missed the game with a groin injury. ... Rookie linebacker Darnell Bing remains sidelined with a neck injury, but Shell said he's making progress.
 
Team confirmed it was a late pick for Hamilton which is probably what we thought.

Joe Hall reached an injury settlement and is now a free agent...

Time to decide on No. 2 quarterback
Tuiasosopo, Walter, George hope to survive today's roster reduction

By PHIL BARBER

When the Raiders signed Aaron Brooks in March, they said he would have to compete for the starting quarterback job. Five months later, Brooks is a sure thing - but who will be holding the clipboard behind him ?


The Raiders must hack their roster from 74 players to 53 by noon today, and the quarterback spot is a giant mystery, with Andrew Walter, Marques Tuiasosopo and Jeff George vying for roles. The Raiders could (1) keep four quarterbacks, (2) bid adieu to Tuiasosopo after five unfulfilling seasons, (3) cut George only five days after signing him or (4) make an injury-related move with Walter.

Or, because they are the Raiders, they could do something utterly shocking and weird. Like make Ronald Curry the emergency quarterback and go with only TWO full-time passers.

Friday afternoon, coach Art Shell wasn't showing his hand. "That's still a work in progress," he said. "We'll have a meeting and discuss those things."

When the team signed George on Monday, many speculated it had something to do with Walter's throwing shoulder. He severely separated the shoulder at the end of his Arizona State career and was recently diagnosed with tendinitis and bursitis in the joint. He looked like a candidate for the physically unable to perform list, if not injured reserve.

But Walter told reporters he usually got a sore shoulder during college spring ball, and it never affected his throwing in the fall. He played substantially in Seattle on Thursday night, if not well , completing 3-of-8 passes for 28 yards. "The arm felt good," he said, "I wish I could have got into more of a rhythm."

Walter did bang his knee badly enough on a sack to get an MRI on Friday. But Shell said there were no structural problems.

If Walter is healthy, the competition could come down to Tuiasosopo and George. Tui, a fan favorite, is in the last year of his contract and was buried at third on the depth chart before George arrived. The Woodinville, Wash., native said he had 17 friends and relatives in the stands at Qwest Field (his brother Zach, a fullback, also represented the Raiders), but he didn't do much to gild the homecoming.

"No, it's not how you like to write it up," Tuiasosopo admitted. "Honestly, it was just one of those days. Not very good."

He has had a lot of those days lately. That's why most of the gossip now has Tui getting cut today and George assuming his spot. And that might depend on how quickly George seems to be grasping Tom Walsh's offense. No one questions his arm, not even at 38.

And might the Raiders really keep four quarterbacks? Teams rarely do that, when so many other players are needed for special teams. But if the last week has told us anything, it's to be ready for the unexpected.

HAMILTON DEALT

The Raiders traded defensive end Bobby Hamilton to the Jets for an undisclosed draft choice. A team source would say only that it was a "late" pick.

Hamilton started 28 games in two seasons in Oakland and was one of the team's most consistent defenders. He had 2½ sacks for the Raiders and 113 tackles. But he had slowed a step at 38, and he had become a run-stuffing specialist. When coordinator Rob Ryan moved Tyler Brayton back to defensive end this year, Hamilton was pushed to the second team.

"Bobby's been good for the organization, and it would have been tough for him here," Shell said. "We wanted to make sure we gave him an opportunity to go somewhere else and have a chance."



INJURY UPDATE

Shell said tight end John Madsen twisted his ankle, and tight end O.J. Santiago hurt his heel against the Seahawks. Linebacker Isaiah Ekejiuba was hit in the ribs but is expected to practice today. Wide receiver Alvis Whitted has a groin strain, but he is expected to go today, too. Tight end Randal Williams has a bruised bone near his knee.



EXTRA POINTS

The Raiders reached an injury settlement with FB Joe Hall. He is now free to sign with another team.
 
Joe Hall becoming a free agent is disappointing. I saw him make terrific blocks, he was agressive and pretty quick for a guy his size. In my opinion, he had a great chance to be a very good player. If I remember correctly, we can't sign him again until after week ten.
 
Rupert said:
I was under the impression that Huntley was staying no matter what and that Hamilton was going to get a visit from the Turk. Art's remarks about the trade confirmed my suspicions, "it would have been tough for him to play here."

Madsen probably stays, but it's no guarantee. The question is how well he blocks and how much blocking we want our TE's to do. Still, if Anderson gets hurt, we've had several guys already through here who we could pick up off team living room.

I think Clark sticks unless they can find a good trade partner. He's VERY valuable, but I'd give him the opportunity to start somewhere.

Badger, hmmmm. If they think he's better than Slaughter, Hulsey, and/or Garmon he stays, otherwise, I doubt it. Today I tend to doubt it.

Tui is the biggest question mark on the team. It depends upon how well George does in practices up until the Turk comes knocking.
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I think clark is very good raider cause he seems content in his role just like crocket
 
Well, I don't want to let go of Clark just for the sake of letting him go. We are under budget right now and we don't really need a huge cap room. However, I am one that feels if a trade is presented that is good, we should definitely consider it.

I agree with Rupert in that I don't see Badger staying, I think Boothe will take that spot.
 
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