Art Shell Fired?

[Crossbones]

Do you think the mole is non other than our own Willie daRaider?

Oh Christ.

 

[Banter]

I just hope Shefter didn't jack up any ongoing negotiations... I'm sure Bernard Petrino doesn't want his team finding out he's leaving before their Bowl game





It'll be Lofton...

I hear you on this. Last year Petrino visited Al to secretly interview. Somebody leaked that info which ended up causing Petrino's recruiting class to panic. It wouldn't surprise me if somebody that wanted Art did this. And that the stuff Lombardi is doing this year is payback. That meeting last year was supposed to remain secret and somebody torpedoed it. Somebody maybe trying to do the same this year. Piss off Al enough to were he digs in and keeps Shell or just throwing in a big damn monkey wrench to screw it up.

 

[hawaiianboy]

Do you think the mole is non other than our own Willie daRaider?

It's Tommygirl.... Think about it... Shefter is from Colorado... TG's in Colorodo... Coincidence?... There's a shitload of snow coming down in Colorodo... TG's probably started the rumor just because she's snowed in, bored and doped up on painkillers and whisky sours...

 

[Byron2112]

The NFL would never want the Raiders to look like jerkoffs

 

[SoCalRaider]

Until I see this on PFT... I'm not buying any of it.

If you think about it, it really doesn't make sense for Al to make a move now. He's the kind of guy who seems to like to play his cards last. Sounds to me like either of 2 possibilities...

- Shell is being forced out, possibly due to health or family concerns... which could be a good thing for the Rob Ryan jihadist.

- Lombardi is stirring it up now that he knows Al is going in a different direction at the end of the season.

 

[hawaiianboy]

The NFL would never want the Raiders to look like jerkoffs

We would have been better off not responding... We fire Art and it validates Shefter's report... We don't fire him and it looks like we're not just to prove Shefter wrong...


It surely seems like Lombardi could have informed Shefter just because Art choose to hang him out publically... It appears there is something to this which points to a coach from the collegiate ranks since anything else would be tampering... Maybe for once Al is being proactive in his search and not waiting to see what's on the after Christmas clearance...

During that interview he mentioned something big was coming and that he'd be speaking to us soon.... Impossibly unlikely as it is, I'm hoping something big literally means that fat guy currently coaching Notre Dame...

 

[Texas Raider]

If it's Petrino, anyone see us taking Brian Brohm #2 and Michael Bush in the second?

 

[hawaiianboy]

Impossibly unlikely as it is, I'm hoping something big literally means that fat guy currently coaching Notre Dame...

Hmmm... anyone recall this:


Some owners already getting their Irish up

By Adam Schefter
NFL Analyst

(Oct. 16, 2006) -- A word of caution to some head coaches: NFL owners are getting restless.

At least two owners contacted Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis in the past week to see if they could entice him to leave South Bend, Ind., for the richer confines of the NFL, Weis confirmed over the weekend.

Weis told each owner thanks, but no thanks. He's very happy at Notre Dame.

"I'm not going anywhere," Weis said.

About this time last year, Weis signed a 10-year contract extension with Notre Dame. But NFL owners were skeptical about whether he would remain at the school. At least two NFL owners were curious enough that, within the past week, while Notre Dame was on its bye, they contacted Weis. They thought the bye week would be the proper time to reach out to him. Plus, their actions were spurred on by the play of their own teams. Their teams clearly were not performing up to expectations.

And even though Weis turned down the owners, a key sign clearly has emerged. Some owners, whoever they are, already are getting impatient with their teams' results.

 

[s.dot88]

im too scared to read this entire thread

there is a real threat of somebody shooting down this report and bursting my bubble, so i am just going to say that i hope this is true

 

[SoCalRaider]

POSTED 8:24 p.m. EST, December 21, 2006​

SHELL OUT IN OAKLAND?​

Though we're in Columbus, Ohio for a couple of days and unable to watch NFLN (thanks for nothing, league and Time Warner), several readers tell us that there's a report on the league's in-house television joint that Raiders coach Art Shell will be fired after the season.​

We're not sure we buy it. Although it's our understanding that significant changes are coming for the 2-12 Raiders, it's also our understanding that no decisions have been made -- and that the decisions will be made by owner Al Davis after the season.​

Our guess? Raiders personnel executive Mike Lombardi could very well be putting out the word to the media that Shell is getting sh-t-canned, possibly in retaliation for Shell's recent complaints about a traitor among the Raiders, and most league observers believe that Shell was talking about Lombardi.​

Lombardi also might be motivated by the fact that rumors are rampant that Lombardi will get the heave-ho, rumors which Lombardi might believe Shell is circulating. ​

And we're not sure that Shell deserves to be fired. Yeah, he never should have hired Tom Walsh to serve as offensive coordinator, but the Raiders' defense has been very good this season.​

Stay tuned.​

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NFL Network: Shell is gone
Posted by Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer on Thursday at 5:01 pm

I found out about Art Shell's impending doom before getting the chance to ask him about it.

It wasn't until I got home and a colleague phoned me with the news that the NFL Network's Adam Schefter was reporting that Al Davis would fire Shell at the end of the season.

Schefter reported this during the Network's "Total Access'' show leading up to the broadcast of the Minnesota-Green Bay game.

The Raiders immediately fired off a press release which the studio host Rich Eisen read on the air.

"Adam Schefter has always been a false rumor monger with respect to the Raiders and anti-Raider based on his relationship with Denver and Mike Shanahan. No decisions have been made relative to the 2007 Oakland Raiders will they be made for some time. Adam Schefter could not have gotten his information from a reliable source because there's only one reliable source, and he doesn't trust Adam.''

Schefter's response?

"Typical Raiders. Getting personal. But the fact remains nowhere in that statement did it say that Art Shell will be back as the Raiders head coach. If they really wanted to attack me and make me look really bad, then they would say, `Art Shell will be our head coach in 2007.' Which he will not be. The plan right now is to release Art Shell after the season. He has one year remaining on his contract at $1.8 million and the plan right now is to fire Art Shell.''

A few notes on Shell's allegedly imminent demise:

– Schefter covered the Broncos first for the Rocky Mountain News and then for the Denver Post. He's written books with Shanahan and Bill Romanowski.

As such, he's more wired into the Broncos than he is to the Raiders, but to assume he is doing this deliberately because he's a Bronco fan is ridiculous.

This is probably an unpopular opinion for this forum, but the whole "Raider hater'' thing is for the most part nonsense.

The Raiders are criticized because the Raiders deserve to be criticized. They've been horrible for four years now. The same people who shout "Raider-hater'' are usually the same ones ripped the media from jumping on the bandwagon in the three-year run of AFC West titles from 2000 through 2002.

Does that mean I think Schefter is right? I think he thinks he is. But the phrase "the plan now'' gives Schefter some wiggle room. He can easily report at a later date that the plan changed. If he's first with that story, he can claim that as a scoop as well.

I'm not going to attack Schefter. He makes a lot more money than I do and has broken plenty of stories over the years.

– What is a false rumor monger, anyway? Doesn't the term "monger'' imply the rumors are false?

– The Raiders release, done in typical heavy-handed silver and black fashion, buries the lead, as they say in the business:

"Adam Schefter could not have gotten his information from a reliable source because there's only one reliable source, and he doesn't trust Adam.''

Let me be the first to break the story that Al Davis did not talk with Adam Schefter. And if you don't get this information from Al Davis, then you're taking a risk in going with the story.

You could be right. The Raiders could end up 2-14, after all. Dumping the coach is not a stretch.

– Schefter's response that the if the Raiders wanted to refute his rumor they would announce Shell is returning for another season is absurd.

What multi-million dollar business enterprise makes a policy commitment to refute an on-air story that has no attribution?

Maybe Davis doesn't know what he's going to do yet. Lord knows he operates slowly when making decisions. The guess here is he is trying to figure out if it is sensible to make dramatic changes to the offensive staff but retain Shell. I think that's what he would like to do, ideally.

But if the Raiders completely fall apart in the last two games, his hand may be forced.

– The real entertainment comes Saturday when NFL Network is in town to cover the game. Hope they already have their credientials and parking passes.

 

[TheNextStep]

Since when did Adam Shefter matter so much that he or his stories command a direct rebuttal?

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My son: "I know that you got me a snowmobile for Christmas."

Me: "I'm the only one who knows what I got you for Christmas and I'm not telling."

My son: "Typical Dad. Very secretive... but you notice that your response didn't deny getting me a snowmobile? If you didn't get me a snowmobile, all you have to do is say 'I didn't get you a snowmobile.' Until then, I stand by my information!"

Me: "Go to your room."

 

[donovan]

– The real entertainment comes Saturday when NFL Network is in town to cover the game. Hope they already have their credientials and parking passes.

Haha, no shit.

The "there is only one reliable source" shit is hilarious.

God, this is sad, though.

 

[TommyGirl]

Haha. I love that Jerry McDonald. The first thing I thought when I read this story was, "Wow, Adam. Now THAT is breaking news." Come on. The team is likely to go 2-14, and (hello, Captain Obvious), it stands to reason that Mr. Davis is very unhappy with the way things have gone this year.

My second thought was that it's insulting for Schefter to write something like that, then report it as "breaking news." Yeesh. I hate it when the media plays on the gullibility of the fans. What's worse is the fallout from all of this. Why did the Raiders respond at all? They're the ones who made Schefter significant in this. To me, the fact that Al Davis responded at ALL lends credence to the Bronco hate, if nothing else. I mean, hell. Nancy Gay speculates all the time and the Raiders have always taken the "she's harmless" approach, it seems. Hm.

 

[Raider Nation]

They're the ones who made Schefter significant in this. To me, the fact that Al Davis responded at ALL lends credence to the Bronco hate, if nothing else. I mean, hell. Nancy Gay speculates all the time and the Raiders have always taken the "she's harmless" approach, it seems. Hm.

Well, that's because Nancy's a woman and what does she know about football, right TG? Of course, Schefter's a boy-midget so they probably could've used the same line of reasoning.

 

[Crossbones]

Natty, this is a warning for harassing TG. Please be nice to her. It's Christmas.

Bwahahahaha...always wanted to do that.

 

[Raider Nation]

Natty, this is a warning for harassing TG. Please be nice to her. It's Christmas.

Bwahahahaha...always wanted to do that.

Don't make me ban you from your own site

 

[hawaiianboy]

My second thought was that it's insulting for Schefter to write something like that, then report it as "breaking news." Yeesh. I hate it when the media plays on the gullibility of the fans. What's worse is the fallout from all of this. Why did the Raiders respond at all? They're the ones who made Schefter significant in this. To me, the fact that Al Davis responded at ALL lends credence to the Bronco hate, if nothing else. I mean, hell. Nancy Gay speculates all the time and the Raiders have always taken the "she's harmless" approach, it seems. Hm.

Remember the good old days when people used to be paranoid of Al's shenanagins instead of the other way around?...

Christ, that press release denial we put out may as well have been read by some shut in, cat lady donning a tin foil hat that prevents the Gov'mint from reading her thoughts...

 

[R4Life]

Any Truth to Al Davis' Claims About Adam Schefter?

http://virginia-football.aolsportsb...truth-to-al-davis-claims-about-adam-schefter/

I found this very interesting. I am a writer and have been aware of this COI sinc AS(s) started piping for the NFL Network. The funny thing is - he's actually juggling the other more obvious conflict - which is he is employed by the entity on which he reports (objectivity out the window - enter propaganda). The bastards have the Raider game tomorrow night as well - but because it sold out it will be available via Youtube on the CBS affiliate (KPIX).

Any Truth to Al Davis' Claims About Adam Schefter?

Posted Dec 22nd 2006 2:07PM by Michael David Smith
Filed under: Broncos, Raiders, AFC West, NFL Rumors, NFL Media Watch

I like Adam Schefter. I think he does good work on NFL Network and handles the balance between being a league employee and reporting on the league about as well as anyone could. But the Oakland Raiders' front office (which means Al Davis) called Schefter a "false rumor monger" yesterday when Schefter reported that Davis would fire coach Art Shell. I don't think that's a fair claim, but the Raiders made another comment about Schefter that has some merit.

The Raiders accuse Schefter of "Anti-Raider bias based upon his relationship with Denver and Mike Shanahan." That relationship includes a book the two of them wrote together, meaning that at one time Schefter had a financial incentive to want Shanahan to be thought of highly: If people like Shanahan, they're going to be more likely to like his book, and as a writer it's obviously good for Schefter for his books to sell well. When you consider that Shanahan has hated the Raiders ever since Davis fired him as their coach, it's hard to blame the Raiders for distrusting any reporter who is so closely aligned with Shanahan.

None of this means Schefter's report that Shell is done after this year is wrong. In fact, I think it's probably right. But when a reporter writes a book with one of his subjects and then becomes an employee of the very company he covers, it can't come as a surprise that people question his objectivity.

This is the photo that ran with the article. I miss the old Al.

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[Freakshow]

Any new developments? Is it rumor or real?

 

[RaiderIVlife]

Any new developments? Is it rumor or real?

Any 2-12 football team will have "rumors" about the coach being fired. Beyond that, I think it's much ado about NADA.