Any news on Routt?

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What happened to this cat?

One minute he's getting starter reps, and playing consistent nickel back for us, and fast forward to the recent weeks and this guy hasnt played a snap...

I know he's playing gunner on special teams, but IMO this guy should be getting as much reps if not more than Carr/Poole/Cooper/Gibson in our backup secondary roles...

Another question mark to ask in the end.
 
he's been in the dogghouse ever since the first denver game and was slowly edged to the benched. the defense is playing so well right now, that i dont he sees time for the rest of the season barring injury. My guess is that he'll get another shot next year. I can only hope Art has his shit together by then.
 
Its been said he's comfortable covering outside receivers but not slot receivers. So he's ahead of Poole/Carr if Aso or Fabian go down. But behind them in most nickel and dime packages.
 
Banter: That's definitely the word, and what I remember seeing. The guy works well against the boundary.
 
Just as players like Asomugha & Terdell Sands have slowly developed, so will Stanford Routt. I agree that it's a numbers thing more than anything else. This is a NICE "problem" to have I should think.
 
I still shake my head when I think about how Carr has surpassed him, and who we passed on to draft the guy.

I hope he develops. Hope never stopped me from shaking my head at the seemingly stupid.
 
Crow said:
I still shake my head when I think about how Carr has surpassed him, and who we passed on to draft the guy.

I hope he develops. Hope never stopped me from shaking my head at the seemingly stupid.
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Sure he's been burnt his fair share, but you'd be silly to say he hasnt developed into a 'potential' nickel back in the coming years. I've seen plenty of good to go with the bad when watching him play...

Guys like Buchanon, Batman Carroll, Andre Woolfolk and Keiwan Ratliff were all earlier picks and more highly touted, yet their suckitude was at a much higher degree than Routts.

In the end, I don't hate the Routt pick as much as I originally did. I've come to realize you need 4 solid cornerbacks in the NFL, regardless of when and where you draft them.
 
I hated the pick at the time. I wanted one of the available DE's at the time. I hope he develops into more than just a nickel guy. You don't use a high #2 on a relief pitcher. I thought we might have used him as a PR
 
i think he'll make the starting lineup as a situational defender at some point. Its obvious that neither fabian or asomugha are equipped to defend javon walker. Routt could develop into the right combination of speed and size we need in those scenarios.
 
Raiderfan007 said:
Sure he's been burnt his fair share, but you'd be silly to say he hasnt developed into a 'potential' nickel back in the coming years. I've seen plenty of good to go with the bad when watching him play...
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Never said the potential wasn't there. Just that it looks like our UDFA has earned more playing time as of late.

Guys like Buchanon, Batman Carroll, Andre Woolfolk and Keiwan Ratliff were all earlier picks and more highly touted, yet their suckitude was at a much higher degree than Routts.
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Only because they spent more time on the field. ;)

In the end, I don't hate the Routt pick as much as I originally did. I've come to realize you need 4 solid cornerbacks in the NFL, regardless of when and where you draft them.
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Fabian, Aso, Poole, and...:confused:

The kids flashed a little, but I'd hardly call him solid at this point.
 
Seraph24 said:
i think he'll make the starting lineup as a situational defender at some point. Its obvious that neither fabian or asomugha are equipped to defend javon walker. Routt could develop into the right combination of speed and size we need in those scenarios.
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If you're looking for Routt to become a Bailey or D-Hall type, I'd have to say you're setting the bar a little high.

But, on the other hand, if you're expecting Javon Walker to be contained by 1 on 1 coverage, maybe we better start putting a plan together to bring back Lester Hayes.
 
Crow said:
If you're looking for Routt to become a Bailey or D-Hall type, I'd have to say you're setting the bar a little high.

But, on the other hand, if you're expecting Javon Walker to be contained by 1 on 1 coverage, maybe we better start putting a plan together to bring back Lester Hayes.
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Sorry but thats alot of words you just put in my mouth.

What I'm looking for is a guy whose a better match up with walker's speed and size. Aso isnt quick enough and fabian is too small. Anything outside of that are your words and not mines. ;)
 
Crow said:
If you're looking for Routt to become a Bailey or D-Hall type, I'd have to say you're setting the bar a little high.
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Ahh, the master at twisting words...

Seraph said he could make the starting lineup as a 'situational defender'...Thats hardly a D-Hall or Bailey type asessment, Crow. (And comparing those two is laughable, by the way)

But, on the other hand, if you're expecting Javon Walker to be contained by 1 on 1 coverage, maybe we better start putting a plan together to bring back Lester Hayes.
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Javon Walker has been covered one on one plenty of times before. It isnt ideal, but its been done. (Detroit locked him down in '04 for 5 catches and 50 yards in both games. Thank you Dre Bly. Minny also blanketed the guy very well with Nate Clements)

Routt could become a solid player and has shown some flashes that he belongs.

If one problem we have is how to fit so many solid DB's into the backfield during the game...I'm a happy guy. Props to Carr.
 
Minny also blanketed the guy very well with Nate Clements
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That was a neat trick. Buffalo didn't object to the Vikes borrowing their best player?

Back to the topic at hand, size and speed are nice. But it's cover skills that get the job done. Tyrone Poole is listed at 5'8. He may very well be 4'11, but he's done a helluva job against receivers bigger than Javon Walker.

In terms of pure cover skills, Fabio looks like our best bet against Walker...who we should never leave single covered, regardless of what the Vikings did using Buffalo's top corner.

Now, if we're taking fantasy seriously, maybe Huff should see some time outside against guys like Walker. He's our best combination of size, speed, and athleticism.
 
Seraph24 said:
Sorry but thats alot of words you just put in my mouth.

What I'm looking for is a guy whose a better match up with walker's speed and size. Aso isnt quick enough and fabian is too small. Anything outside of that are your words and not mines. ;)
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I actually agree with this. Obviously we can't guarentee that he will develop into this type of player, but of all the DB's on the roster, Routt might be the most physically gifted. Which is saying something because we have some excellent athletes in our secondary.

While we've failed miserably with our offensive line selections (and subsequent development), we have done an excellent job with our DB's. Even Stuart Schwiegert has slowly improved.

Bottom line is that Routt has a bright future, he's in the right situation and he's being brought along at a nice pace IMHO.
 
Crow said:
...we hope.
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Well, yeah.

I'm know I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but would you agree that Routt has a brighter future than say....Robert Gallery at this point? Jake Grove?
 
No, not really.

Gallery is a victim of a broken franchise. He was nails as a rookie. But since then, with all the scheme/coaching changes, he's fallen off.

Routt is a raw athlete who's flashed a little ability at times, but that's about it.

Grove...I'm trying to have some faith in the guy. Maybe with a new staff, he'll turn into a competant player. I can only hope.
 
Crow said:
Gallery is a victim of a broken franchise. He was nails as a rookie. But since then, with all the scheme/coaching changes, he's fallen off.
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Hmmm... can't really say I remember Gallery ever impressing as a RT. I thought the biggest mistake Davis made with him (besides drafting him) was starting him out at RT. Seems to have become the OLine version of Tyler Brayton... sometimes effort just isn't enough to overcome the combination of mediocre talent and poor development.
 
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