Alright JR, that'll be enough of that..

S and B Executioner said:
Point taken, but R4life has to admit that Ex has some validity to his points....
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IMHO Nobody rises to the top of their chosen vocation (He is still a College player until tomorrow and he is in the top 1%) without a serious me-first attitude. People have been glomming onto this guy since High School, and this is his moment in front of the world. He's imagined it a million times in his mind, and if in that moment he sees himself with a big ring, a nice watch ($25K in the watch-world of bling is NOT even top 10%) and some slick shades - I have no problem with that. The guys never been in a lick of trouble, helps people out, is quiet most of the time and is liked and respected by his teammates. I do not think he is unlearnig all he knows and has done until now. IMHO I'm glad to see him come out of his shell a little bit because I don't know about how that shy attitude will come across in an NFL huddle of grown men.

But, in my special place, would I like to see more humility in our heroes? Do I worry about what this trend says about my daughters' generation? Yes. I would and do.

But this isn't my world anymore. It belongs to this generation, and their princes will be walking the stage in NYNY at the Radio City Music Hall tomorrow and JR will not be the only one to look the part of royalty.
 
Michael Irvin practically wore a gold-ass gong around his neck when he got drafted.

I wouldn't call him a part of this (my) generation.

Deion?

Shit is nothing new.
 
donovan said:
Michael Irvin practically wore a gold-ass gong around his neck when he got drafted.
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Jeez, I forgot about that. Anyone got a picture of that tea-plate? He was like Biz Marquis
 
hawaiianboy said:
And if he had shown up at the NFL Draft luncheon where that pic is from with jeans, he would have been labled a country hick... They were ALL decked out in suits and watches dude... and ::gasp, the humanity:: CJ and Peterson even had chains and diamond earrings on!...

I heard Joan Rivers totally ripped Calvin Johnson for walking the Red Carpet wearing a suit without a tie... That kind of fashion faux pax definitley registers a red flag in my book bud...

Gaines Adams pinstriped suit with gold tie was pretty sweet though... He's moved up my draft board for sure..
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Thank You. Geez we're fuggin crucifying the guy for wearing an Armani suit and some accesories. Very unusual in this day:rolleyes: I guess that automatically includes him in the Sug Knight hall of fame in some people's eyes. Can someone actually find me a legitimate link to any mention of him having off field character issues? You know beating up nappy headed ho's and carrying a concealed weapon and all.
 
Madturk said:
Thank You. Geez we're fuggin crucifying the guy for wearing an Armani suit and some accesories. Very unusual in this day:rolleyes: I guess that automatically includes him in the Sug Knight hall of fame in some people's eyes. Can someone actually find me a legitimate link to any mention of him having off field character issues? You know beating up nappy headed ho's and carrying a concealed weapon and all.
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TO never had off the field issues

But he certainly was and still is an attention whore

Ever had that feeling, ya know what I'm talking about, where you just know something aint right ?

I been getting that the last couple days from him.

He showed up to the combines over...Hey man, heres the bottom line...

Everything points to this guy that should raise a flag, and its a damn shame because I love the guys ability to throw and was as much on his pimp wagon as anybody

I just dont know how well he's gonna handle his weight when he gets that multi-mill bonus....

Ya know whats gonna happen man

Big mansion, supped up rides, parties

I got that feeling once he endorses that check, the motivation is gonna rear its ugly head, much like we all saw with him shirtless at the combines

I just got this feeling
 
Are you guys serious? This is an actual issue?

Like others have said, this is the dude's moment in the sun. Let him live. He's a young kid, he's about to be a multimillionaire, and he's excited about his future.

JaMarcus is a quiet, reserved guy with some serious swag, kinda like VY last year (who, if I'm not mistaken, refers to himself in the 3rd person :eek:). That's something I absolutely want in my QB. You old farts need to lighten up! :D
 
Don't see what the big deal is. This shouldn't be anything new. So he dresses like DRuss and CWood... and he's going to get drafted by the same exact owner those guys did. The same owner who hasn't changed a single bit in 80 years. So What? We're a 2-14 team. It's not like it can get any worse.

This is the kind of reasoning you guys are going to need to adopt.

;)
 
gst8 said:
No shit.

Hardcore Raider fans reduced to fashion critics?
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Yeah, I gotta a problem with that, its deeper than you probaly realize

It's like that chick at the beach that has hairspray and makeup on

She's that bitch you dont wanna talk to

You gotta question the motive if anything else

You dig where the Nips is going with this?

I'm not questioning the guys ability

What I am questioning is his real intent (motive)

Just like the chick at the beach with the makeup

What the fuck is your purpose?

What are you trying to prove?

And if you get all "gussied up" going to the beach

You tend to have serious self esteem problems

Dig?
 
SoCalRaider said:
Don't see what the big deal is. This shouldn't be anything new. So he dresses like DRuss and CWood... and he's going to get drafted by the same exact owner those guys did. The same owner who hasn't changed a single bit in 80 years. So What? We're a 2-14 team. It's not like it can get any worse.

This is the kind of reasoning you guys are going to need to adopt.

;)
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The owner hasn't changed a single bit? How do you explain Rich Gannon's tenure with the team?

Either Al Davis changed and selected a smart yet weak armed quarterback to lead his team OR Al Davis changed and allowed a coach to make his own decision as to who the quarterback would be.

But, hey... don't let me interfere with your feeling superior about your ability to reason...
 
RHC said:
And as soon as JR proves he's A-numero-uno in the football world, I'll be nice and comfortable with anything he wants to do. If he takes us to the promised land he can pork Dennis Rodman in the ass while wearing jewelry made from human teeth for all I care.
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So your problem is that JaMarcus Russell had the hubris to spend money that he was given before he's proven himself on the field?

Hey, I got news for you, Ring... if that's the criteria, there's not a prospect in the nation that's worthy of the #1 overall pick.
 
TheNextStep said:
The owner hasn't changed a single bit? How do you explain Rich Gannon's tenure with the team?
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Jon Gruden




TheNextStep said:
Either Al Davis changed and selected a smart yet weak armed quarterback to lead his team OR Al Davis changed and allowed a coach to make his own decision as to who the quarterback would be.
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If this were true, then we'd be following Kiffin's recommendation, which I highly doubt is Russell. Russell makes about as much sense in the WCO as Jeff George did when Gruden took over.




TheNextStep said:
But, hey... don't let me interfere with your feeling superior about your ability to reason...
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:rolleyes:
 
SoCalRaider said:
Jon Gruden
If this were true, then we'd be following Kiffin's recommendation, which I highly doubt is Russell. Russell makes about as much sense in the WCO as Jeff George did when Gruden took over.
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So....

Al Davis gave his young coach the ability to make his own call on which quarterback he wanted when Gruden was the coach... but... if we take Russell, it means that Al Davis did not give his young coach the ability to make his own call on which quarterback he wanted when Kiffen was the coach.

Do you not see why I'm picking on your "Al Davis never changes a single bit" comment here?
 
TheNextStep said:
So....

Al Davis gave his young coach the ability to make his own call on which quarterback he wanted when Gruden was the coach... but... if we take Russell, it means that Al Davis did not give his young coach the ability to make his own call on which quarterback he wanted when Kiffen was the coach.

Do you not see why I'm picking on your "Al Davis never changes a single bit" comment here?
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Not really considering you've spun an entirely new context out of the original quote which was "The same owner who hasn't changed a single bit in 80 years". Real simple. If Davis lets Kiffin get his guy, then I'd be the first to say Davis has changed for the better... but when Davis takes Russell... it's the same old Davis.

Your context implies that Davis changes his mind or goes back and forth from one thing to another. That's already well known and nothing new from Davis. Just look how many times he's gone back and forth from WCO to the typical Davis long ball.
 
R4Life said:
Oh, and PS, Quinn has 2 Hummers H2 already.
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Then I don't want either of them but If we are going to go QB at least get the one who has actually run a NFL offense. I would prefer to trade down.
 
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