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Scramble for the Ball: AFC Over-Unders Part I
8/4/2006
Ian: Howdy! And welcome to another Scramble for the Ball favorite: Over/Under predictions on team wins for the upcoming season. We’re breaking the column up into four parts: Bad AFC, Good AFC, Bad NFC and Good NFC. Today, we’re kicking things off with the bad AFC teams.
Bill: You write one thing about football cards and the next week, ESPN and Yahoo have front page articles about the card industry. There goes that idea. Wait — did someone mention sports betting talk? I already feel better. Let’s do this.
Houston Texans (o/u 5.5)
Ian: Wow, talk about a tough way to start the season. The Texans’ first four games are vs. PHI, @IND, vs. WAS, vs. MIA, then they have the bye week. If you’re keeping score at home, going into Week 6 the Texans will be 0-4, and the rest of their games will become much less important to their fans and the media than the never-ending “Reggie Bush” debate.
It’s a shame, really, because I do think they’ll be a better team than they have been. I think Eric Moulds and Andre Johnson will have respectable seasons, and give Domanick Davis some running room (if he’s ever healthy). But I think many solid performances will come in losing efforts.
They have some winnable matchups in the second half, but not enough to make up for a disastrous start to the season. That’s why I’m going Underhere.
Bill: I’m not convinced the guy who was 64th in WR DVOA last year — and hasn’t been on the positive side of the DVOA ledger since 2000 — is going to create that much space for Andre Johnson or Domanick Davis. If the Texans are going to win six games, their defense is going to have to improve. Fortunately for them, they can’t get any lower — their 21.2% DVOA was last in the league last year. How much better will they get? Well, Mario Williams will certainly help. For the years we have data, the teams that finished last in defensive DVOA averaged a rank of 23rd the year after; in 2005, the Vikings improved to 19th after their dead last finish in 2004.
All that said, they certainly do have an ugly start to the season. I’m really high on the Texans in ‘07, but this is a year for learning Gary Kubiak’s system and trying to build some sort of stable foundation in Texas. I predict that David Carr will, for the fifth season running, not once have to worry about buying any of his offensive linemen watches, dinner, candy, Otto’s BBQ, light rail fare… Under.
Tennessee Titans (o/u 5.5)
Ian: Nice to see that Tennessee starts with a home game against the Jets, which should get their season off on a positive note. But it’s all downhill from there. @SD, @MIA, DAL, @IND, @WAS, then the bye week. If I thought they had a strong chance of sweeping the Texans this season, I’d figure they could scrounge out six wins, but I don’t even see that happening.
They’ve got a mess of running backs and a new starting quarterback, and when they enter their bye week at 2-4 it’s probably going to be Vince Young time. I believe that in time, he will be an excellent NFL quarterback. But the track record for rookie starters is not good. Sorry Tennessee fans, you’re in for a long season. Under.
Bill: I’m not with you on this one. I have pretty high hopes for the Titans this year — they have a young defensive line that’s rapidly maturing behind what’s going to be a very good linebacking corps with the addition of David Thornton from Indianapolis. On the offensive side, while David Givens isn’t a #1, I think he can be a #1a — and if Drew Bennett’s a #1a too, well, that doesn’t exactly add up to anything but I think they’ll be able to get 160 balls off of Billy Volek, which should keep Vince Young off the field. They also replaced Brad Hopkins, their worst offensive lineman last year, with Michael Roos, their best. There’s a lot to like here. Over.
Buffalo Bills (o/u 6.5)
Ian: Here’s a team that’s hard to figure. They finished a disappointing 5-11 last season. Willis McGahee managed only five touchdowns, though he did see a rise in rushing yardage from his rookie season. Eric Moulds is gone, and while Kelly Holcomb is the current starter, J.P. Losman is still waiting in the wings.
All that being said, I think the Bills have an excellent chance of topping the six win mark. They get to face the Jets twice (in case you haven’t figured it out, I’m really sour on the Jets this season), they have four games against the NFC North (all of which are winnable games for them, especially considering they get to face the Vikings at home), and they get Miami and Tennessee at home two of the last three weeks of the season.
Sure, by the time we’re four weeks into the season, many team perceptions will change. But from what I see right now, I’m going with the Over.
Bill: Ian, are you really implying that J.P. Losman waiting in the wings is a good thing? Usually, I think, “waiting in the wings” implies something positive and hopeful. Maybe “lurking in the wings” or “threatening with potential use” would work. It seems like saying, “Well, if this date doesn’t work out, it’s no problem. I have Tawny Kitaen waiting in the wings.” This team really turned down Matt Leinart? So they could draft a safety? Maybe they were just assuming they’d be in position to draft Brady Quinn in 2007. Go Under with extreme prejudice. And, just for fun, your Marv Levy quote of the week:
“‘It was different in the old days,’ says the 80-year-old Levy, the Hall of Famer who took over as Buffalo’s general manager this year, nine years after retiring as the Bills’ coach. ‘I’ll even go back in my experience to Division III. Then if you had a drink if water during practice you were a sissy: ‘You shouldn’t drink water.’”
Cleveland Browns (o/u 6.5)
Ian: The Browns are just full of question marks. Is Charlie Frye for real? Can Reuben Droughns stay out of trouble off the field? Can Joe Jurevicius carry a bulk of this team’s receiving load? Will Braylon Edwards come back healthy? And, perhaps most importantly, will Romeo Crennel be able to create the defensive success in Cleveland that he did in New England?
I’m gonna say “no.” “No” to many of the above questions and “no” to the question of whether or not they can win seven games. They have what seems like a fairly average schedule, maybe a bit on the hard side. The schedule is not what’s important here– What’s important is whether or not Crennel can implement his system, and implement it effectively. I just don’t see that happening with the talent they currently possess. I’m going Under.
Bill: Jurevicius is basically replacing Antonio Bryant in this offense — his DVOA was better, but he also had Matt Hasselbeck to work with. Edwards is also off the PUP list as of Sunday, which is good — unfortunately, he’ll be lending his crutches to LeCharles Bentley, who can wear any jersey number he wants now that he’ll be on the sideline all season. To be honest, though, it wouldn’t really have made much of a difference. This is a developing team that had a great off-season … but also the fifth-hardest schedule in football. Much like the Texans, their year is 2007. Under.
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8/4/2006
Ian: Howdy! And welcome to another Scramble for the Ball favorite: Over/Under predictions on team wins for the upcoming season. We’re breaking the column up into four parts: Bad AFC, Good AFC, Bad NFC and Good NFC. Today, we’re kicking things off with the bad AFC teams.
Bill: You write one thing about football cards and the next week, ESPN and Yahoo have front page articles about the card industry. There goes that idea. Wait — did someone mention sports betting talk? I already feel better. Let’s do this.
Houston Texans (o/u 5.5)
Ian: Wow, talk about a tough way to start the season. The Texans’ first four games are vs. PHI, @IND, vs. WAS, vs. MIA, then they have the bye week. If you’re keeping score at home, going into Week 6 the Texans will be 0-4, and the rest of their games will become much less important to their fans and the media than the never-ending “Reggie Bush” debate.
It’s a shame, really, because I do think they’ll be a better team than they have been. I think Eric Moulds and Andre Johnson will have respectable seasons, and give Domanick Davis some running room (if he’s ever healthy). But I think many solid performances will come in losing efforts.
They have some winnable matchups in the second half, but not enough to make up for a disastrous start to the season. That’s why I’m going Underhere.
Bill: I’m not convinced the guy who was 64th in WR DVOA last year — and hasn’t been on the positive side of the DVOA ledger since 2000 — is going to create that much space for Andre Johnson or Domanick Davis. If the Texans are going to win six games, their defense is going to have to improve. Fortunately for them, they can’t get any lower — their 21.2% DVOA was last in the league last year. How much better will they get? Well, Mario Williams will certainly help. For the years we have data, the teams that finished last in defensive DVOA averaged a rank of 23rd the year after; in 2005, the Vikings improved to 19th after their dead last finish in 2004.
All that said, they certainly do have an ugly start to the season. I’m really high on the Texans in ‘07, but this is a year for learning Gary Kubiak’s system and trying to build some sort of stable foundation in Texas. I predict that David Carr will, for the fifth season running, not once have to worry about buying any of his offensive linemen watches, dinner, candy, Otto’s BBQ, light rail fare… Under.
Tennessee Titans (o/u 5.5)
Ian: Nice to see that Tennessee starts with a home game against the Jets, which should get their season off on a positive note. But it’s all downhill from there. @SD, @MIA, DAL, @IND, @WAS, then the bye week. If I thought they had a strong chance of sweeping the Texans this season, I’d figure they could scrounge out six wins, but I don’t even see that happening.
They’ve got a mess of running backs and a new starting quarterback, and when they enter their bye week at 2-4 it’s probably going to be Vince Young time. I believe that in time, he will be an excellent NFL quarterback. But the track record for rookie starters is not good. Sorry Tennessee fans, you’re in for a long season. Under.
Bill: I’m not with you on this one. I have pretty high hopes for the Titans this year — they have a young defensive line that’s rapidly maturing behind what’s going to be a very good linebacking corps with the addition of David Thornton from Indianapolis. On the offensive side, while David Givens isn’t a #1, I think he can be a #1a — and if Drew Bennett’s a #1a too, well, that doesn’t exactly add up to anything but I think they’ll be able to get 160 balls off of Billy Volek, which should keep Vince Young off the field. They also replaced Brad Hopkins, their worst offensive lineman last year, with Michael Roos, their best. There’s a lot to like here. Over.
Buffalo Bills (o/u 6.5)
Ian: Here’s a team that’s hard to figure. They finished a disappointing 5-11 last season. Willis McGahee managed only five touchdowns, though he did see a rise in rushing yardage from his rookie season. Eric Moulds is gone, and while Kelly Holcomb is the current starter, J.P. Losman is still waiting in the wings.
All that being said, I think the Bills have an excellent chance of topping the six win mark. They get to face the Jets twice (in case you haven’t figured it out, I’m really sour on the Jets this season), they have four games against the NFC North (all of which are winnable games for them, especially considering they get to face the Vikings at home), and they get Miami and Tennessee at home two of the last three weeks of the season.
Sure, by the time we’re four weeks into the season, many team perceptions will change. But from what I see right now, I’m going with the Over.
Bill: Ian, are you really implying that J.P. Losman waiting in the wings is a good thing? Usually, I think, “waiting in the wings” implies something positive and hopeful. Maybe “lurking in the wings” or “threatening with potential use” would work. It seems like saying, “Well, if this date doesn’t work out, it’s no problem. I have Tawny Kitaen waiting in the wings.” This team really turned down Matt Leinart? So they could draft a safety? Maybe they were just assuming they’d be in position to draft Brady Quinn in 2007. Go Under with extreme prejudice. And, just for fun, your Marv Levy quote of the week:
“‘It was different in the old days,’ says the 80-year-old Levy, the Hall of Famer who took over as Buffalo’s general manager this year, nine years after retiring as the Bills’ coach. ‘I’ll even go back in my experience to Division III. Then if you had a drink if water during practice you were a sissy: ‘You shouldn’t drink water.’”
Cleveland Browns (o/u 6.5)
Ian: The Browns are just full of question marks. Is Charlie Frye for real? Can Reuben Droughns stay out of trouble off the field? Can Joe Jurevicius carry a bulk of this team’s receiving load? Will Braylon Edwards come back healthy? And, perhaps most importantly, will Romeo Crennel be able to create the defensive success in Cleveland that he did in New England?
I’m gonna say “no.” “No” to many of the above questions and “no” to the question of whether or not they can win seven games. They have what seems like a fairly average schedule, maybe a bit on the hard side. The schedule is not what’s important here– What’s important is whether or not Crennel can implement his system, and implement it effectively. I just don’t see that happening with the talent they currently possess. I’m going Under.
Bill: Jurevicius is basically replacing Antonio Bryant in this offense — his DVOA was better, but he also had Matt Hasselbeck to work with. Edwards is also off the PUP list as of Sunday, which is good — unfortunately, he’ll be lending his crutches to LeCharles Bentley, who can wear any jersey number he wants now that he’ll be on the sideline all season. To be honest, though, it wouldn’t really have made much of a difference. This is a developing team that had a great off-season … but also the fifth-hardest schedule in football. Much like the Texans, their year is 2007. Under.
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