2025 Mock Draft thread...

Sleet said:
So you agree with me. I’ve been banging that drum for a while. Nice you’re on board.
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The only time we ever agree is typically 1-3 seasons after you crashed and burned on a take and realize I was right all along.

I guess this could be one of those times lol.
 
Sleet said:
@007’s solution is to trade up. It’s a viable plan. I don’t think SpyGuy will do it.

I, too, think Glaze regressed but I’m in the give Grant the opportunity to win the RT job camp. I think both would protect Mendoza better than or as well as rookie Crownover.
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And if and when Miller goes down what’s the plan?
 
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alteredst8 said:
And if and when Miller goes down what’s the plan?
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We can still draft Crownover. I just don’t expert him to start over Grant or Glaze, who both would play if Miller got injured. I only took Crownover out of my ‘lil Al b/c, weeks back, I thought OT7 would drop.
 
Sleet said:
@007’s solution is to trade up. It’s a viable plan. I don’t think SpyGuy will do it.

I, too, think Glaze regressed but I’m in the give Grant the opportunity to win the RT job camp. I think both would protect Mendoza better than or as well as rookie Crownover.
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Well we are definitely drafting OL. Obviously going to depend on how the board falls on when we take one. Like many here, I want to solidify the RT position and draft another guard. I will however defer to Dennison who is arguably one of the top OL gurus in the NFL. Maybe he sees things differently than we do. :shrug:
 
007 said:
The only time we ever agree is typically 1-3 seasons after you crashed and burned on a take and realize I was right all along.

I guess this could be one of those times lol.
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@Sleet,

You are a good man but the Canadian wins this round.
 
Madturk said:
Well we are definitely drafting OL. Obviously going to depend on how the board falls on when we take one. Like many here, I want to solidify the RT position and draft another guard. I will however defer to Dennison who is arguably one of the top OL gurus in the NFL. Maybe he sees things differently than we do. :shrug:
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In player evaluation, hopefully Dennison is no Cable.

Last year, Sea drafted 3 OL—Zabel (G) at 1.18 and two OT who projected as G in the 6th and 7th. Both Day 3 OL picks made the roster—but together they logged only 20 snaps. Zabel started and played 986 snaps.

Two years ago, Saints drafted 2 OL—Fuaga (OT) at 1.14 and an OT in the 7th, who got cut. Fuaga’s a stud.
 
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DJ actually showed more promise his rookie year. Definitely regressed last year, but I suspect Carroll Jr. had something to do with that, as well. No continuity and the entire line looked confused for most of the season. If Glaze gets back to his earlier form, and learns from his mistakes last year, comes in a little quicker, we might be okay at RT. Those are big IF's tho
 
SBNation said:
DJ actually showed more promise his rookie year. Definitely regressed last year, but I suspect Carroll Jr. had something to do with that, as well. No continuity and the entire line looked confused for most of the season. If Glaze gets back to his earlier form, and learns from his mistakes last year, comes in a little quicker, we might be okay at RT. Those are big IF's tho
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Worse case let him and Grant battle it out. If they dont draft OL early, get someone day 3 to compete with them. We have a competent OL coach now.
 
SBNation said:
Or, we can just say fuck it and take a stud OT at 2.36 and be done with the right tackle conversation.
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There is no “stud” OT at 2.36. Top 7 OT are getting pulled up into the 1st due to position value, an overall weak draft, and a big perceived drop off to OT8.
 
Madturk said:
We have a competent OL coach now.
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Kubiak and Dennison were with Saints when they drafted Fuaga. They certainly have a work-up and pre-draft grade on Glaze.
SBNation said:
DJ actually showed more promise his rookie year. Definitely regressed last year, but I suspect Carroll Jr. had something to do with that, as well. No continuity and the entire line looked confused for most of the season. If Glaze gets back to his earlier form, and learns from his mistakes last year, comes in a little quicker, we might be okay at RT. Those are big IF's tho
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As a rookie, Glaze graded out at 66.9, 2nd best among 15 Day 1 and Day 2 OT rookies per PFF.

Here is how he regressed Y2 per SIS:
  • Sacks: 3 —> 12
  • Blown pass blocks: 36 —> 40
  • Run stuffs: 0 —> 5
  • Blown run blocks: 3 —> 14
We will soon find out if Kubiak/Dennison ageee that Y2 was a product of bad coaching on a shit O.
 
Madturk said:
Worse case let him and Grant battle it out. If they dont draft OL early, get someone day 3 to compete with them. We have a competent OL coach now.
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Draft a swing OT behind Miller, Grant and Glaze (IMO).
 
007 said:
We all watched the games all year right? I mean this cannot be bizzarro world stuff again this year right?

DJ Glaze is an offensive tackle for the Las Vegas Raiders who earned a 60.6 overall PFF grade in the 2025 season, 65th among 89 qualified offensive tackles. He played 992 offensive snaps on the season.
His PFF pass-blocking grade of 63.3 ranked 60th among 89 qualified offensive tackles. His run-blocking grade of 54.9 ranked 73rd at the position.
He allowed 48 total pressures in pass protection. That total included 10 sacks and 6 hits allowed to opposing pass rushers. He was flagged for 5 penalties over the course of the season.
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Between baby Carroll and the OC, the line was a mess. A RT who has a rotating RG does not develop chemistry for duo or zone, or stunts/twists/blitz pass-offs. Glaze has issues with speed rushers, and Chip couldn't even have a RB or TE chip.

007 said:
64 tackles play each week and he ranked 65th lmfao.

Why would we do that to Fernando? Thats just cruel.
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In your first post, there were 89 eligible OTs.

wilbo71 said:
Glaze. Plus, I think Geno hung onto the football longer than normal and some of those sacks were more on him that Glaze. But if they upgrade the RT position, I’m up for it. I’m not married to the guy, but I think he is better than some think.
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Agreed. Similar to the sacks and hits attributed to our new C. The Baltimore QB held the ball longer than Geno.

wilbo71 said:
“How long did Geno Smith hang onto the football on the sacks Glazers gave up?”

Short answer: it wasn’t quick-loss pressure most of the time.
On the sacks charged to DJ Glaze, Geno Smith generally held the ball longer than average.

⏱️ Time to Throw on Glaze-Allowed Sacks (2025)​

  • Estimated average: ~3.0–3.2 seconds
  • League average sack time: ~2.7–2.8 seconds
👉 So you’re looking at ~+0.3 to +0.5 seconds longer than normal sack plays.

🧠 What That Means​

1. Not purely an OL failure​

  • Sacks under ~2.5s = usually instant pressure / OL loss
  • Glaze’s sacks skewed later-developing
👉 Suggests:

  • QB progression holds
  • Routes not separating
  • Protection breaking down late rather than immediately

2. Matches what showed on film​

A lot of his losses came:

  • At the top of the arc late (speed rushers winning eventually)
  • After initial engagement held up OK
  • When Geno hitched or reset in the pocket

3. Still not a clean bill of health​

Even with longer time-to-throw:

  • 10 sacks allowed is still high
  • Good tackles can sustain blocks beyond 3 seconds more consistently
👉 So it’s more:


📊 Big Picture​

  • Quick sacks (<2.5s): relatively fewer → good sign
  • Extended-play sacks (>3s): more common → development issue
👉 Translation:

  • Glaze wasn’t constantly blown up immediately
  • But he struggled to finish reps, especially vs speed
If you want, I can break down each sack individually (time to throw + rusher + move used)—that’s where it gets really revealing.




I think this is a fair assessment of his play. Not as bad as it looked, but needs to play better.
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Good breakdown. Glaze could improve his footwork and timing his punch. Both hurt him
Against speed rushers, both regressed noticeably and when facing elite talent or JAGs he was on an island.

And Geno almost always drifted right, and did so even when the pocket was clean.

SBNation said:
DJ actually showed more promise his rookie year. Definitely regressed last year, but I suspect Carroll Jr. had something to do with that, as well. No continuity and the entire line looked confused for most of the season. If Glaze gets back to his earlier form, and learns from his mistakes last year, comes in a little quicker, we might be okay at RT. Those are big IF's tho
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Yeah, but based on his rookie season, Glaze does take coaching. To me the biggest IF DJ and the whole line can easily let go of bad habits from last season.

SBNation said:
Or, we can just say fuck it and take a stud OT at 2.36 and be done with the right tackle conversation.
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Right. Because stud OTs are not drafted in the first round.
 
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Nobody knows who will pan out, become great, or become a bust. People think they do, but they don't. We took Gallery 2nd overall, he was average at best. We took Leatherwood in the first, total bust. We went with JPJ in round 2, and the jury's out. Barry Sims went undrafted and looked solid for years. Good lineman can be had up and down the draft. Do more studs come in round 1? Probably. But we might find a gem in round 2, who knows? Or we might take a wideout or DT haha.
 
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