2024 College Football Thread

Nick Saban made $150M coaching these kids, by the way. I said in the other thread that he has good points and the NIL system needs to be revamped and more organized but hearing this from Saban now that kids are getting paid is hilarious and he's not making himself look good IMO. I actually understand him not wanting to deal with this shit when it's a mess and he's at the end of his career anyways but he should've just walked away into sunset and let others handle it. He just comes off as a 'I got mine and fuck others who are trying to get theirs' grumpy old man to me now.
Doesn’t count the endorsement deals he had. Dude got super paid. also the lack of structure is the NCAA’s fault. They got so mad they lost this case that they wanted no major hand in building the system of how players got their money. But here they are to bitch about it once it’s in place.
 
Seems like all they have to do is get more restrictive with the transfer portal.

One of life's truisms is big fish will always eat little fish.
 
Seems like all they have to do is get more restrictive with the transfer portal.

One of life's truisms is big fish will always eat little fish.
Suffice it to say they fucked up college football maybe beyond repair! Damn shame.
 
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Agreed

Money corrupts
Money always corrupted college football.

The NCAA could’ve set up a way to have money put to the side for players upon graduation and maybe the Supreme Court doesn’t have to get involved. They chose to steal the money from young players and penalize schools if anyone including their family took even a dime.
 
Money always corrupted college football.

The NCAA could’ve set up a way to have money put to the side for players upon graduation and maybe the Supreme Court doesn’t have to get involved. They chose to steal the money from young players and penalize schools if anyone including their family took even a dime.
Yep

NCAA is a culpable too
 
I think the NCAA won't be controlling college football for very long. They should just separate college football from the rest of college sports all together. Let basketball, baseball, softball, etc. go back to the regional conferences and let football be setup like the NFL.

How are you going to get around Title IX?
 
The NCAA’s greed led to its demise. Their leadership and lawyers thought they could hold back the tide. Once Ed Bannon sued, it was just a matter of time. N.C.A.A. should have settled that lawsuit with wide ranging reforms, preempting the NIL. But it didn’t. While it won that battle, it grossly lost the war.

NCAA greed?

Sleet,

The battle was lost in the mid 1980s when teams went to the Supreme Court to break the NCAA's monopoly on TV contracts. That led to the rise of conference contracts which fueled this rapid growth.

Blaming that Bannon case is like blaming recent years for America's decline. The decline started in 1913 and jumped in 1917.

Everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie. Once every conference and team can make their separate deals it was game over.

By the way, the NCAA tried all the time to install NIL guidelines only for agents, schools, states, and players to sue.
 
Where were you 20, 10 and 5 years ago when the NCAA and the big conferences could have done something smart and lawful to prevent this wild, wild, west. Their gross negligence caused this mess.

Sleet,

The NCAA tried to regulate NIL. The courts killed it every time.

There is no stopping greed and desire for money when massive media contracts exist. You really think if the NCAA or conferences 10 years ago agreed to pay players a certain amount, players wouldn't be asking for more years later? Boosters want to win. Players and coaches want money.

The only thing NIL did was rip off the final curtain on fans' perspective of the student-athlete.

Look at the transfer portal. Players are already demanding two free transfers now.

If you give a mouse a cookie....
 
In the NHL you can go junior hockey, NCAA, European professional league etc. NBA you have the G league ignite, college or overseas.

The idea of another option intrigues me. The CFL kid who didnt go to University and instead played one year of pro football is an interesting story. Curious to see if he gets drafted.

I'm not sure on how the future looks but you are right it will sort itself out.

The NFL never developed a minor league system. They allowed CFB to serve that system. Now the price is being paid.
 
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Money always corrupted college football.

The NCAA could’ve set up a way to have money put to the side for players upon graduation and maybe the Supreme Court doesn’t have to get involved. They chose to steal the money from young players and penalize schools if anyone including their family took even a dime.
LOL.

You really think players would have been OK for waiting for money until after graduation? Hahaha.

Hell no. There would have been lawsuits galore and claims about how mama needs the money now.
 
Sleet,

The NCAA tried to regulate NIL. The courts killed it every time.

There is no stopping greed and desire for money when massive media contracts exist. You really think if the NCAA or conferences 10 years ago agreed to pay players a certain amount, players wouldn't be asking for more years later? Boosters want to win. Players and coaches want money.

The only thing NIL did was rip off the final curtain on fans' perspective of the student-athlete.

Look at the transfer portal. Players are already demanding two free transfers now.

If you give a mouse a cookie....
The NCAA was still greedy as fuck. I have no sympathy for them in light of the plight that has been created. Right or wrong (perhaps wrong), I do blame the NCAA for being heavy handed early on and through the process, even if it was trying to hold back the tide. At least the optics for them would have been much better and it would be less of a wild-wild west had they been more proactive.
 
LOL.

You really think players would have been OK for waiting for money until after graduation? Hahaha.

Hell no. There would have been lawsuits galore and claims about how mama needs the money now.
Tearing down an idea without a better one isn’t the flex are thinking it is. It’s exactly what the NCAA is doing.

Keeping all the money attached to student athletes as a brand and likeness to yourself was never the right answer. Bitching about the eventual fall of this exploitative venture isn’t either.
 
NCAA greed?

Sleet,

The battle was lost in the mid 1980s when teams went to the Supreme Court to break the NCAA's monopoly on TV contracts. That led to the rise of conference contracts which fueled this rapid growth.

Blaming that Bannon case is like blaming recent years for America's decline. The decline started in 1913 and jumped in 1917.

Everyone wants a bigger piece of the pie. Once every conference and team can make their separate deals it was game over.

By the way, the NCAA tried all the time to install NIL guidelines only for agents, schools, states, and players to sue.
p.s., welcome back
 
The NCAA was still greedy as fuck. I have no sympathy for them in light of the plight that has been created. Right or wrong (perhaps wrong), I do blame the NCAA for being heavy handed early on and through the process, even if it was trying to hold back the tide. At least the optics for them would have been much better and it would be less of a wild-wild west had they been more proactive.
I am not advocating for NCAA sympathy. They should have been more flexible. But once they lost control of TV contracts, it was game over.

Maybe the optics would have been better but the NCAA has been cast as the great villain since the 1990s. I don't think the viewpoint would have changed.

Tearing down an idea without a better one isn’t the flex are thinking it is. It’s exactly what the NCAA is doing.

Keeping all the money attached to student athletes as a brand and likeness to yourself was never the right answer. Bitching about the eventual fall of this exploitative venture isn’t either.
The NCAA tried to regulate NIL. The courts said no dice.

People foolishly told themselves NIL deals would be limited to commercials for Lucky Eddie's Used Car Sales.

Bitching? Hardly. The next evolution is going to have people pining for the old days. For being such an exploitative venture or slavery as some have put it, thousands were clamoring for a spot. The NCAA is far from perfect, but its replacement whatever it is, won't be close to an utopia.

The real issue resided in the NFL never developing a minor league system. Instead all the players wanting to major in football were funneled into the NCAA.
 
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